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    The Legend of Zelda: Phantom Hourglass

    Game » consists of 7 releases. Released Jun 23, 2007

    The first Zelda handheld game developed by Nintendo EAD since Link's Awakening, the game continues the story of Link and his Pirates to find a new Hyrule, but are detoured by a Ghost Ship. Controlled entirely by Touch Screen, it is one of the best selling games in the series.

    Greatest Zelda since OoT

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    #1  Edited By r3b3lr0b0t
    Agree or Disagree
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    #2  Edited By Knives

    Hard to agree objectively. While I enjoyed the Ocean King dungeon, I can see why it annoyed many others. Also objectively, Lineback was a badass. I enjoyed it more than Twilight Princess, but Windwaker is a very well done game.

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    #3  Edited By and333

    I haven't played yet but it seemed alot like LTTP which is great! My fav will always be Majoras Mask tho!

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    #4  Edited By Systech

    I disagree. The best since then is Wind Waker.

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    #5  Edited By ZimpanX

    I disagree, my favorites since OoT are Majora's Mask, Twilight Princess and the Minish Cap

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    #6  Edited By sdodd02

    disagree

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    #7  Edited By FengShuiGod

    I really liked TPH, but the Ocean King's Temple got REALLY old.

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    #8  Edited By SixString

    I'm still waiting for my phantom hourglass to arrive but I will say that I loved oracle of ages and oracle of seasons.

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    #9  Edited By Dolphin_Butter

    Disagree.

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    #10  Edited By WightnNerdy

    Best Zelda since Ocarina of Time? No, I don't think so. Wind Waker, Majora's Mask, and Twilight Princess were all better than Phantom Hourglass.

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    #11  Edited By AaronBelfast

    Twilight Princess.

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    Hmmm.... TO be honest I would have to say Wind Waker.  I still like all of the other Zelda's too, Wind Waker just had something special that seemed gone in Phantom Hourglass.

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    #13  Edited By r3b3lr0b0t

    Twilight Princess over PH?! No way, IMO TP is the worst in the series.

    (This list is for Zelda Games OoT and After, Link's Awakening and LTTP are amazing, but not being analyzed!)

    1. OoT
    2. Wind Waker (totally agree with you guys there)
    3. Majora's Mask (agree with that)
    4. Phantom Hourglass
    5. Oracle of Ages/Seasons
    6. Minish Cap
    7. Twilight Princess


    TP is the worst Zelda game I've ever played IMO. It had no feel to it. I didn't like any of the characters (Honestly I can't tell you the names of any of the secondary characters because they weren't interesting). The Final Boss was LAME. The Weapons and items didn't really excite me.

    Phantom Hourglass had a way better story. I enjoyed the graphic style more. The Controls were awesome. I actually cared about the characters (Linebeck was an amazing character!). Final Boss was sweet!

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    #14  Edited By Mario_Galaxy_Fan

    Not as good as Wind Waker or Twilight Princess.

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    #15  Edited By Jerving

    Wind Waker takes it for me, with Marjora's mask not too far behind. For me, TP just didn't catch that Zelda feeling.

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    #16  Edited By roylink

    Disagree, PH's first few dungens were no chalanges at all. 

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    #17  Edited By SSbabel

    Its too hard to seperate the zelda series they are all fukn sick games, the only reason the other zeldas get lower scores is because they are being compared not just too the best zelda game OOT but possibly the greatest game of all time. On there own merits they are all fukn great games.

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    #18  Edited By Hyper_Hedgehog

    I personally prefer Wind Waker.

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    #19  Edited By Mario_Galaxy_Fan

    The Temple of the Ocean King is annoying while it is a good game its nowhere near the likes of Wind Waker in terms of quality.

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    #20  Edited By Willy105

    Phantom Hourglass is the worst Zelda game I ever played IMO.

    Twilight Princess was WAY better.

    Anyway, the best Zelda after OoT was obviously Wind Waker.

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    #21  Edited By hazelnutman
    Is it just me, or did anyone else like the atmosphere of Majora's Mask the most out of all of the Zelda games?
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    #22  Edited By MikPick

    Disagree, Phantom Hourglass is one of the worst Zelda games.

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    #24  Edited By Willy105
    hazelnutman said:
    "Is it just me, or did anyone else like the atmosphere of Majora's Mask the most out of all of the Zelda games?
    "
    Majora's Mask was a masterpiece in direction. Yes, the atmosphere was fantastically well made.
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    #25  Edited By NFS102

    Disagree, it's Twilight Princess closely followed by Wind Waker IMO.

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    #26  Edited By r3b3lr0b0t
    Willy105 said:
    "hazelnutman said:
    "Is it just me, or did anyone else like the atmosphere of Majora's Mask the most out of all of the Zelda games?
    "
    Majora's Mask was a masterpiece in direction. Yes, the atmosphere was fantastically well made.
    "

    I loved Majora's Mask. Absolutely loved it, but Phantom hourglass was just so well put together and TP was very lacking on all fronts. Can some TP fans give me some specific points as to why you would rate it higher than PH and WW?!
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    #27  Edited By Willy105
    r3b3lr0b0t said:
    "Willy105 said:
    "hazelnutman said:
    "Is it just me, or did anyone else like the atmosphere of Majora's Mask the most out of all of the Zelda games?
    "
    Majora's Mask was a masterpiece in direction. Yes, the atmosphere was fantastically well made.
    "

    I loved Majora's Mask. Absolutely loved it, but Phantom hourglass was just so well put together and TP was very lacking on all fronts. Can some TP fans give me some specific points as to why you would rate it higher than PH and WW?!"
    Actually, I didn't find Phantom Hourglass very well put together and lacking in many areas, while Twilight Princess succeeded. Weird.

    Here's my reasons:

    • It is extremely polished. It keeps doing the same things as the last Zelda's, but it does it better. It improves upon them in execution. Phantom Hourglass takes a step back and removes many of these things. For example:
    • The dungeons in TP are no longer just corridors, they look like actual places in design and gameplay. Phantom Hourglass just returns to the dungeon crawler feel, with dungeons that feel like boxes.
    • The items are extremely fun to use. They are also fun to use in Phantom Hourglass, but they are the same items as always. TP introduces new items and makes them extremely useful in the design of the dungeons. The dungeons are designed around the item, not making a dungeon and adding places where the item should be used.
    • Scope. The world feels real and huge, even more than Wind Waker. You can look around and see many cool geographical formations to explore. In Phantom Hourglass, it's just a flat world with sprites filling in for rocks, with the occasional level or floor to show elevation. It's not because of technical limits, because the N64 did it good enough.
    • Takes itself seriously. They wanted to make a deep and detailed story for TP to live up to the past Zelda games. Phantom Hourglass had even more preassure to make a better Zelda story, because it follows up on Wind Waker, which had the most well-made story in all of the Zelda games. But Phantom Hourglass doesn't even try as a sequel, in fact, it;s more of a spin-off in terms of story. The quest for the new Hyrule isn't continued or detailed, it just goes on into a side story about a ghost ship that even at the end of the game, it is revealed to not be canon! Sure Lineback was a better character than Midna, but they actually had a serious story with her, and they just threw Lineback away as a side-quest character.
    • Phantom Hourglass was badly designed. Sure, Twilight Princess uses the same design as the last 3D Zelda games, but the new design they tried in Phantom Hourglass was very frustrating. I am talking of course about the Temple of the Ocean King. It's repetitive, hard, and it actually makes you sad because after you finish a dungeon, you actually have to go back there again. Meanwhile, when you finish a dungeon in TP, you feel excited and want to know where to go next.
    • Music. Twilight Princess had better music than Phantom Hourglass, and there was more new compositions for it as well. It had a brand new overworld theme, motifs for every character (a theme song), and every dungeon had it's own new background music. In Phantom Hourglass, all the dungeons have the same repetitive track in every single one, doesn't matter if it's the Wind Temple or the Ice Temple. In Twilight Princess, each was different and catchy.
    • And even more, hype. Phantom Hourglass was supposed to be a sequel to the Wind Waker, but it didn't deliver. That was a big blow for me, because I wanted to see what heppens next in the saga, and all we got was a simple side story that ends the same way it started, and didn't build up anything towards another installment in the Wind Waker story. Also, the baton from Wind Waker doesn't return, none of the music returns (except for the opening), and the multiplayer didn't work well online. It just wasn't well made and lacking in so many areas, while Twilight Princess was very familiar, but it was a well made game with the fans in mind. Phantom Hourglass was new, but not up to standards for a Zelda game.

    And that's pretty much it.

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    #28  Edited By r3b3lr0b0t
    Good points man, but IMO:

    Midna was like Jar Jar Binks in Episode 1

    She ruin'd TP for me

    Oh and the epic fail of the final boss, uninteresting story, uninteresting characters, and uninteresting weapons also played a hand in it.
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    #29  Edited By Aska

    Disagree.  Majora's Mask is the best Zelda ever made.  In my opinion.

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    #30  Edited By Willy105
    r3b3lr0b0t said:
    "
    Good points man, but IMO:

    Midna was like Jar Jar Binks in Episode 1
    She ruin'd TP for me

    Oh and the epic fail of the final boss, uninteresting story, uninteresting characters, and uninteresting weapons also played a hand in it.
    "
    Midna = Jar Jar!?!

    What!?!

    Midna wasn't comic relief, she was the main character.
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    #31  Edited By BoG

    disagree. It was short and easy. Wasted potential, in my book. greatest Zelda games since OoT are Wind Waker and Minish Cap.

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    #32  Edited By r3b3lr0b0t
    Willy105 said:
    "r3b3lr0b0t said:
    "
    Good points man, but IMO:

    Midna was like Jar Jar Binks in Episode 1
    She ruin'd TP for me

    Oh and the epic fail of the final boss, uninteresting story, uninteresting characters, and uninteresting weapons also played a hand in it.
    "
    Midna = Jar Jar!?!

    What!?!

    Midna wasn't comic relief, she was the main character."
    She was Jar Jar  in a sense that she was annoying and I hated everything about her
     Just like Jar Jar ;-)
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    #33  Edited By Bass

    MM says hi. Also, WW was a good game (about even w/ ph imo).
    TP wasn't much but a Zelda game, and nothing more.

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    #34  Edited By Dakota

    I would have to disagree. I mean its good, but its nowhere near the quality of the console Zeldas.

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    #35  Edited By SpecTackle

    Since OoT? I can agree with that. It's not better than OoT, though.

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    #36  Edited By ZimpanX

    Strongly disagree, the best Zelda games since OoT are Majora's Mask, Minish Cap and Twilight Princess imo.

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    #37  Edited By BigShot
    I love this game, but WindWaker was much better. It has everything this game does and more, except for stylus control. Still, it's as good as I could imagine for Link on a handheld.
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    #38  Edited By Snail

    Disagree. OoT is the greatest of all time, Majora's Mask, Twilight Princess and Wind Waker are all paired with each other. I'm just listing the 3D ones

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    #39  Edited By HazBazz

    Disagree, its my least favorite Zelda game. Best Zelda game is Wind Waker, followed by Twilight Princess, followed by OoT

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    #40  Edited By LordAndrew

    Ugh. Phantom Hourglass.
    It's not a bad game, but it's not really what I want from a Zelda game .

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    #41  Edited By TheGreatGuero

    I can't wait to play it. It'll probably be among the first games I get once I buy a DSi.

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