Metal Gear Solid V or The Phantom Pain or Whatever They'll Eventually Call It: Debut Trailer

God I love Kojima.

This is basically all I could ever want and more out of a MGS trailer. Pure abstract lunacy. Fuckin' love Kojima.

My mind has been thoroughly fucked.

Just had an interesting thought. Maybe the "V has come to." line is a reference to Big Bosses clones. V = roman numeral 5. Maybe there is/was a 4th clone, and this is the 5th one.

@outerabiz: Well, it's MGS related in someway. I'm tempering expectations after MGS4 and his history for throwing double birds at his fans when they least expect it.

But Konami is *fucked* so that's not likely. That company needs MGS titles that to keep its gaming division alive. My money is on MGS5.

FIRE WHALE!

I am betting it's Liquid. He's missing an arm. He is in a Hospital with a UK flag, and we know that he was in the SAS. So, I am betting that somehow Liquid survived the end of MGS1 and now he's back in this game.

Or they're pulling a Mario 2 and it's all gonna be a dream. Another Possibility is "Metal Gear Hill: Tactical Horror Espionage".

It's going to be called Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain. Seems pretty obvious. All of them but the first have a subtitle.

(going mad cont'd)

what about...Metal Gear Solid: V?

("V has come to/come, too" at the end of the trailer above...if this really isn't MGS5...who is this 'V' who looks suspiciously like Big Boss.)

some people pointing out this "Joakim Mogren" is an anagram of 'Kojima' and has a reference to his Project Ogre nestled in the surname is really interesting, because:

yes, Kojima is noted for saying Project Ogre is NOT MGS5, but a Skyrim-like open world game in production, BUT,

there is a well-known Japanese fairy tale (The Ogre of Rashomon), which is about five knights/warriors, where one is goaded into going out at night during a storm and seeing if the terrible ogre truly exists. this guy ends up chopping off the ogre's arm, and keeping it in a box. the ogre comes back one day, disguised as his old nursemaid, to take it back. hmmmmmmmmmmm...

and,

"From FOX, two phantoms were born"--Ground Zeroes has Zero, original commander of FOX. Zero comes to have a massive falling out with Big Boss...who this fellow in the trailer resembles. the "left arm? or right arm?" issue is also interesting, because in the MGS 25th anniversary picture of Ground Zero 'poster,' the words, "From FOX, two phantoms were born" are actually written back-to-front/mirrored. 'Fox' also being the name of the engine, and Kojima logo. 'phantoms' being like illusions or trick of the eye (or even red herring), where this very-new youtube account and Moby Dick Studio (the elusive great white that will end up killing Kojima) website is one, as is the current stuff out there for Ground Zeroes. hmmmmmmmmmmm...

the assets in Ground Zeroes trailer and this look so similar that, in fact, i can almost see the Ground Zeroes scene where they get on the heli, rip off their FOX (XOF) patches, and start storming into some base lead right into the events of this trailer. try watching the two back to front.

so...my current theory is this:

Ground Zeroes + The Phantom Pain = MGS V

@SSully said:

Well it's obviously metal gear.

I think the thing to talk about here is how fucking unsettling this trailer was. I got really uncomfortable when the hall of people were just getting mowed down.

That was an extremely effective use of violence. Made me fucking shiver.

@courage_wolf said:

@Forum_User said:

@pleasedaddyno said:

@Forum_User: except, why is it suddenly a roman numeral, when it was 2, 3, 4 up til now? i guess...just because. or, it refers to the end of the trailer, the russian sounding chick saying, "V has come to/come, too." or...O GOD I AM GOING MAD

Don't try to understand the mind of Kojima. That way lies only madness.

Sanity is for the weak.

Insanity is for the weekend.

@Forum_User said:

@pleasedaddyno said:

@Forum_User: except, why is it suddenly a roman numeral, when it was 2, 3, 4 up til now? i guess...just because. or, it refers to the end of the trailer, the russian sounding chick saying, "V has come to/come, too." or...O GOD I AM GOING MAD

Don't try to understand the mind of Kojima. That way lies only madness.

Sanity is for the weak.

Kojima

It's actually a trailer for QWOP 2.

@pleasedaddyno said:

@Forum_User: except, why is it suddenly a roman numeral, when it was 2, 3, 4 up til now? i guess...just because. or, it refers to the end of the trailer, the russian sounding chick saying, "V has come to/come, too." or...O GOD I AM GOING MAD

Don't try to understand the mind of Kojima. That way lies only madness.

A... flaming unicorn?

@Forum_User: except, why is it suddenly a roman numeral, when it was 2, 3, 4 up til now? i guess...just because. or, it refers to the end of the trailer, the russian sounding chick saying, "V has come to/come, too." or...O GOD I AM GOING MAD

So.......nanomachines?

MmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmTHAT'S GEWD TRAILER

from alexrubens twitter, photo of the Phantom Pain team (Kyle Cooper, right) in the Konami VIP.

@Mr48 said:

No Depeche Mode? No sale!

It would be such a crime if they used a Depeche Mode track and it wasn't Comatose.

That song (like most of that album) is probably a bit too out there to use to market anything, though.

It's going to be called Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain. Seems pretty obvious. All of them but the first have a subtitle.

theres a psycho mantis AND a pyro in this trailer , mabye hes being tormented by the crazy ppl hes killed and theyre somehow manifesting in real life , and its all part of a goverment superweapon plan eheh

No Depeche Mode? No sale!

@JimmyRedd said:

@Dallas_Raines said:

@FearMyFlop said:

There's a giant sky whale on fire. I mean can that really be in the MGS universe? As ridiculous as the games got they did try to keep it in a certain realm of realism. Unless this is all taking place in coma.

In MGS 3, you fought a Ghost Man, a Lightning Man and a Bee Man. Metal Gear Solid is a cartoon.

Not to mention the jetpacking, pyromaniac astronaut whose flaming ghost head chases you down a hallway.

I was gonna say: Have you ever even played an MGS game? They're fantastic, but incredibly ridiculous at a nearly constant rate. That first one on the PlayStation appeared more normal at first but then it gets ludicrous pretty quickly.

This looks like some weird mix between MGS, 999, and...um...LSD? Kojima makes the weirdest freaking trailers.

@Dallas_Raines said:

@FearMyFlop said:

There's a giant sky whale on fire. I mean can that really be in the MGS universe? As ridiculous as the games got they did try to keep it in a certain realm of realism. Unless this is all taking place in coma.

In MGS 3, you fought a Ghost Man, a Lightning Man and a Bee Man. Metal Gear Solid is a cartoon.

Not to mention the jetpacking, pyromaniac astronaut who's flaming ghost head chases you down a hallway.

The 'open your eyes' and 'am I in hell' stuff seems to point towards it being some kind of dream sequence though. Wasn't the bad guy from the GZs trailer all burned up? Maybe this is his nightmare. (Or maybe Keifer's that guy, he's all bandaged up)

"from FOX, two phantoms were born." Ground Zeroes and this Phantom Pain make the one MGS V (FOX). This looks next gen to me.

Well it's obviously metal gear.

I think the thing to talk about here is how fucking unsettling this trailer was. I got really uncomfortable when the hall of people were just getting mowed down.

wait is this not the next silent hill?

00:55 DIGITAL BUTT CRACK!!!

For all the "hidden" clues, it just took one thing to convince me that it's a Metal Gear game:

The dude's butt through the hospital gown.

KOJIMAAAAAAAAA

And calling the studio "Moby Dick Studios" is brilliant since Metal Gear has been Kojima's white whale. He keeps trying to kill it but it will be the death of him first.

@beard_of_zeus said:

@DarthB said:

Is it just me or does it seem like the bit of VO at the end gets cut off? I'm not just talking about this version on giantbomb, but this same trailer on every site I've seen does it. What gives?

I was trying to figure out what the VO at the end was; probably cut off like that on purpose. Sounded like something in Russian? I dunno. This whole trailer is bananas.

"V has come to," I think. As in, V has regained consciousness.

@Max_Cherry said:

MGS mixed with Jacobs Ladder. I love it! I'm skipping Ground Zeroes and going straight to MGS5.

This probably isn't MGS5 either.

X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X

Trying to hide that this is a Metal Gear game is like if they tried to hide the next God of War, but followed Kratos around the entire running time of the trailer. Still, this looks super interesting.

MGS mixed with Jacobs Ladder. I love it! I'm skipping Ground Zeroes and going straight to MGS5.

Looking pretty shitty for an MGS game?

THIS. LOOKS. FUCKING. NUTS. I MUST HAVE IT!

@avantegardener said:

Holly shit that trailer made my heart hurt. Very interesting cut.

EDIT: Is that a 'Psycho Mantis' style figure raising up at the end the video?

*** Winner ***

Psycho Mantis has taken over a portion of the world and will try to continue until complete global domination. Only YOU have the power and know-how to keep that from happening. Good luck, soldier.

If this is indeed Metal Gear then Kojima and the marketing guys are amazing for coming up for this add campaign.

@outerabiz said:

@GasparNolasco said:

@hollitz: It's definitely a game set in the futuristic MGS universe, and they already announced that Ground Zeroes is a setup for Metal Gear Solid 5.

I find hard to believe they would be working on 3 high budget MG games at the same time so I'd guess this one is MGS5

The end of the demo when he left the hospital it looked like the camp from Ground Zeroes, I bet GZ and MGS5 are just one game and Kojima is just being a master troll again, can't see Kojima working on 2 big MGS games that feature the same timeline and protangonist. Plus MGS5 on the 360 makes me happy, hope they release MGS4 as well before it comes out.

@BoringK said:

@Penzilneck said:

@Max_Cherry said:

I loved the fucking, sky whale.

In any other context, that comma I added would make this such a more interesting piece of dialogue.

Better still

@Penzilneck said:

@Max_Cherry said:

I loved the fucking, sky whale.

In any other context, that comma I added would make this such a more interesting piece of dialogue.

Better still

@Shtinky said:

I love how all the Neogaf comments were like "this game looks boring" when the trailer was first shown. But now they're all like "zomg! this game looks awesome!"

I like how no one cares about NeoGaf but Michael Pachter

I love how all the Neogaf comments were like "this game looks boring" when the trailer was first shown. But now they're all like "zomg! this game looks awesome!"

This reminded me a lot of Texhnolyze, minus the BDSM. Also. Jack. Fucking. Bauer!

As for whether this is MGS5 or not. Who cares? That's obviously Snake, that's all that matters.

After the first few seconds in I was expecting dubstep and Inception style action segments.

@gaffyh: That's pretty normal. The hospital gown stuff showing the butt.

Metal Gear Hook!

@graf1k said:

Seems pretty obviously an MGS game but the conversation I keep having with my buddies that are also MGS nerds is whether or not this is Ground Zeroes and if not does that mean there are essentially three MGS games currently in the works? The thought of that makes my pants tight.

Yeah it gives me gas too