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SXSW Cancels Two Panels in Wake of "Threats of On-Site Violence"

The Festival's administration cites "preservation of the big tent" as major motivation for the cancelation. [UPDATED]

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At some point SXSW went from "that place that band I like is playing" to "the place venture capitalists draw inscrutable infographics about apps and 'disruption.'"

Update: Perry Jones of the Open Gaming Society has forwarded along the organization's response, including future panel plans. It is available here.

Original story below.


SXSW, a yearly festival of media makers, critics, and technologists, has announced the cancellation of two gaming related panels, "SavePoint - A Discussion on the Gaming Community" and "Level Up: Overcoming Harassment in Games." In a statement released early this evening, SXSW Interactive director Hugh Forrest stated that over the past week SXSW had received "numerous threats of on-site violence" related to these panels.

But that isn't the only reason cited for the cancelation. Instead, the main thrust of Forrest's statement today was that the two panels in question had themselves engaged in an unwelcome style of debate:

SXSW prides itself on being a big tent and a marketplace of diverse people and diverse ideas.

However, preserving the sanctity of the big tent at SXSW Interactive necessitates that we keep the dialogue civil and respectful. If people can not agree, disagree and embrace new ways of thinking in a safe and secure place that is free of online and offline harassment, then this marketplace of ideas is inevitably compromised.

There's one problem with this statement, though. The "dialogue" that Forrest is references here just doesn't exist.

Yes, "SavePoint" was officially being hosted by a group called the Open Gaming Society, which has its origin on KotakuInAction, a group that calls itself the "hub for GamerGate discussion on Reddit." And yes, "Level Up: Overcoming Harassment in Games" was going to feature Randi Harper, Katherine Cross, and Caroline Sinders--each of whom has spent some time over the last year critiquing, studying, and writing about GamerGate. But "Level Up" wasn't going to be a panel about GamerGate at all, it was aiming to be a discussion about how careful design of technologies and games can address the problem of online harassment. In a comment provided to Giant Bomb, Cross explains:

The panel was meant to be a wide ranging discussion about how we might design websites, social media, and online games to be less susceptible to online harassment and hate mobbing. We were going to discuss various design proposals, including some already extant in the gaming industry that have been proven to work, but our panel was meant to be a solutions-oriented discussion of harassment in general.

It is unfortunate that SXSW alleged us to be "GamerGate" related. We did not mention GG in the proposal nor in the actual text of the panel description. GG is but one of many manifestations of online harassment and we did not want to get myopically bogged down in one case study, nor in relitigating its specifics. We wanted to discuss the wider problem and solutions thereto.

I could understand why someone with only superficial knowledge of these panels might see them as competing or in dialogue with each other. But they simply weren't--and as director of SXSW Interactive, Forrest should have a lot more than superficial knowledge.

Worse, Cross also told us that SXSW did not alert the "Level Up" panelists about the threats of violence, nor did they respond to the panelists' own concerns about security. There was no discussion between the panelists and SXSW's management about the cancellation, either: It was a total surprise to Cross and the others. It all paints a pretty bad picture of SXSW Interactive.

Don't misunderstand me: I don't mean to say that there's never an instance where a panel needs to be canceled. If SXSW felt that it simply couldn't provide the security necessary after talking with the panelists about the risks, then I'd be more sympathetic. But given the lack of dialog between SXSW Interactive and the panelists involved, this feels less like a regrettable necessity and more like a washing-of-hands. It's ironic that Forrest's post is titled "Strong Community Management," because this incident suggests that SXSW Interactive lacks the ability to manage its community, or else doesn't have the desire to dedicate the time, money, and energy to do so in this case.

There's a second element of irony here, too--and a more depressing one. As stated above, "Level Up" was supposed to be a panel discussion on how smart design of systems can be used to prevent abuse. In effect, Cross, Harper, and Sinders were going to explore how one might actually build something that protects the very things that Forrest holds up as SXSW's goals: "Diverse people and ideas." It's really a shame that the panel was canceled, because it seems like SXSW's management could've gotten some tips.

As of the time of publishing, I've received no response from the Open Gaming Society or from SXSW Interactive. I will update this story if that changes.

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Greatly disappointed in the decision by SXSW. It's the sort of move that just further enables harassment.

On a larger matter, I find the whole concept of "a marketplace of ideas", both in terms of the SXSW statement but also played out here in the comments, greatly disturbing. Equating the thoughts and opinions of harassers and those harassed is simply unethical and harmful to society. It's similar to the unethical concept that racist, sexist, homophobic, transphobic or an other statements of bigotry have any place in constructive dialogue or are comparable to critiques from feminists, progressives, foucauldians, LGBT or others. In the case of progressive criticism, these are not attempts to censor or exclude ideas but rather are inclusive opinions attempting to present perspectives that have historically gone unrecognized. By accepting these perspectives, we gain not just new understandings of our world but a more social understanding of our world. On the other hand when it comes to opinions from those opposed to social progress, the truth is that there are opinions which are exclusionary and anti-social and thus toxic to constructive dialogue. The only forum in which such opinions belong are those where they are subject to criticism and rejected for the social blight they are. This is not censorship. This is engaging in ethical and socially responsible behaviour.

And yes, I'm aware how those who wish to engage in toxic behaviour like to twist meanings around and treat legitimate criticism directed at themselves as harassment while describing criminal harassment of feminists or progressives as "criticism". The best counteraction to such intellectual dishonesty is prudence.

In both the larger culture and in our little corner of video game culture, does racism belong? Does sexism and misogyny (including anti-feminism) belong? Does homophobia belong? Does transphobia belong? Does any form of bigotry belong? Does harassment belong? The ethical answer is no. These are ideas which are damaging to society.

Conversely, does feminism belong? Does intersectionality? Does progressivism? Does foucauldian analysis? Do LGBT views? Do non-Eurocentric views? If one takes an ethical approach, then the answer is yes. These are ideas which help broaden our understanding of society.

So when you equate ideas which are damaging to society with ideas which broaden our understanding of society, you are engaging in a highly dubious and unethical form of intellectual comparison.

Anyway, that just my two cents on one aspect of this story that has been nagging at me.

The "marketplace of ideas" does not equate ideas themselves. The analogy to an actual marketplace sucks though.

Whatever you want to call it, a social atmosphere where ideas may be plainly and fairly analyzed is exactly the sort where unreasonable opinions may be clearly dismantled, to the ultimate benefit of social understanding.

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Its a shame, I would of appreciated having BOTH panels there. Online harassment is a tricky topic that I would like to hear more about. I would of liked to hear discussion about the gaming community in a positive light and discussion on how to improve it and how to respond to criticism.

However thanks to the actions of a FEW we won't be able to have either panel.

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Probably as good a time as any to ask this:

Do the Giant Bomb forums have a "Tachy goes to Coventry" or equivalent feature?

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Having a panel on any subject should be allowed if for no other reason to understand and to defeat the beliefs therein.

For people alluding that "harassers shouldn't be allowed to talk" or similar, remember that you're basing whether someone should be allowed to talk by whether you disagree with them. Having a panel where they talk for a few hours is not in the same universe as actual harassment groups like WBC.

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@xenolon said:

Probably as good a time as any to ask this:

Do the Giant Bomb forums have a "Tachy goes to Coventry" or equivalent feature?

Unfortunately, we don't have any hellban system.

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Thanks for writing about this, Austin. I'm disappointed that the GB community is acting so shitty right now.

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Austin, I find it unfortunate that you take Katherine Cross' comment at face value. Cross and the others have taken a very antagonistic stance towards GamerGate (especially Randi Lee Harper, who has publicly told GG supporters to "die in a fire"), so it's not beyond the realm of possibility that SXSW felt this panel's vibe was much in the same vein.

It would have been one thing to report that this is what Cross said, but you've treated her comment as fact, and reported it as such. That's very disappointing. Not only that, but you took it a step further and claimed their panel discussion would have nothing to do with GamerGate--which is something Cross herself does not say. She merely says that it was not in the text of the submission; she does not say that it won't be part of the discussion.

There's been no reason not to believe Cross. She's been a respected academic in gaming for quite some time. She is an open critic of GamerGate and has written extensively on them as a microcosm of online abuse campaigns. She, and the other panellists, were clear that GamerGate was not the subject, that they wanted to move away from that one hate campaign and talk about abuse and harassment on larger scales.

Just because Harper and Cross have been victims of GamerGate and fought back against it, does not mean they are automatically souly defined by one group of people who have attacked them.

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AMEN dude. I'm so sick of all this bullshit. I just play games. This whole metaverse that exists within the community, where people are fighting imaginary battles is tiring. I don't even know what's up or what's down anymore.

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All I got from this is the video game industry is and enthusiasts are juvenile and I'm kind of embarrassed to be associated with both.

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Remember it was just console fanboys going at it? Weren't those such simpler times?

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It's strange to me that people are focusing on the wrong issue instead of what matters to SXSW and should matter to the general public: safety.

SXSW's decision to cancel these panels isn't due to content, which they accepted (both feature outspoken GG and anti-GG members in panels that make no claim to discuss GamerGate), but rather the controversy and threats that followed.

These threats probably aren't credible, but SXSW must still treat them as they are. They can either commit, accept risk and bolster security, or run away from this trash fire. SXSWi (not to mention gaming which is a joke) is far from the main draw, compared to film and music. So, I wouldn't be surprised if the higher-ups looked at the drama and said "screw this. pull the plug or you're fire" I get why people are upset but I think SXSW did the right thing, in service of the general public's safety and being fair to other panels/attendees. There are plenty of other venues to host controversial panels that will receive threats without the venue shutting them down -- and these venues/panels have happened several times this year.

It's an unfortunate situation but the only people to be mad at should be those making anonymous threats online and our broken system that doesn't prevent those from happening.

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@mento said:

Let's try to keep the conversation in these comments focused on the SXSW event and this unfortunate situation, rather than get too sidetracked about GG and its past offenses. Likewise, if you have zero interest in the topic, please just walk away instead of trying to deflect or derail the conversation.

Thanks, duders. I know this means a lot to a lot of you, and feel free to get in touch with us or Rorie if you have any concerns about mods or users on this site.

I just wanted to reiterate this point and bring it right back to the forefront. Please keep your comments on topic. Thanks.

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Safety over some panel any day of the week regardless of what topic it is.

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@truthtellah: Terrorists? really?

Come on, man. I know hyperbole is the big thing these days but Al Qaeda is a terrorist organization. The IRA was/is a terrorist organization. ISIS is a terrorist organization.

Comparing actual terrorism to a few pissed off geeks on a message board? That's downright delusional.

I wouldn't go so far as to say 'terrorists' but real people were chased from their homes in terror by those ginned up by the hashtag movement's nebulous goals of 'journalism ethics' - a mindset replete with war imagery and (metaphorical) calls to arms. Sloughing harassment off as 'geeks on a message board' lines up with the blinkered 'The internet isn't real' ethos of channers and the like.

The Internet is not real. If anyone is harassing me I can very easily sever the line of communication to what's bothering me. Everyone has that power. You have that power.

I'll say it again: someone being an asshole on twitter is not terrorism. Harassment, yes, but terrorism? Hysteria like this does nothing for anybody. Unless you like drama, in which case by all means.

A person makes their living off of being on the internet. Now tell them again to sever that line like it's nothing.

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A person makes their living off of being on the internet. Now tell them again to sever that line like it's nothing.

If someone is making their living by talking on the internet about talking on the internet there's a far bigger picture to look at, such as capitalism imploding on itself.

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How in the world does any event in TEXAS not have enough security capability? We can concealed carry (open carry with concealed license soon enough), and everyone knows that we take no shit. This sounds like SXSW playing chickenshit, which is nothing new for them.

SXSW has become such a joke in the last five years anyways that it's a miracle anyone even wants a part of that Sundance-wannabe bullshit.

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The Verge and parent Vox Media are now threatening to pull out of SXSW unless the panels are reinstated:

http://www.theverge.com/2015/10/27/9621414/sxsw-2065-anti-harassment-panel-cancellation-vox-media-statement

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It's shameful that after more than a year, this site still can't commit to a hardline stance against Gamergate, which is unequivocally a hate group formed directly as a result of the Zoepost, in all its forms, especially in its own community, your own backyard. Good people have been bullied out of the community because their posts get flagged by shit-stirring GG'ers and they automatically get suspended, and it just stands because it's easier not to rock the boat too much. It's shameful that Neogaf, an enthusiast-run forum where people still argue about review scores every damn day, has better and stricter moderation against bigotry in all its forms.

You're sticking your head in the sand on this and it's cowardly. I know you're better than this. Make an effort. Posting the news story isn't enough if you're gonna let your community just go to shit like this.

@austin_walker@jeff

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I just released what SXSW is (South by Southwest) am I dumb or just not hip enough. Okay, don't answer that I know the answer already....both.

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@oni said:

It's shameful that after more than a year, this site still can't commit to a hardline stance against Gamergate, which is unequivocally a hate group formed directly as a result of the Zoepost, in all its forms, especially in its own community, your own backyard. Good people have been bullied out of the community because their posts get flagged by shit-stirring GG'ers and they automatically get suspended, and it just stands because it's easier not to rock the boat too much. It's shameful that Neogaf, an enthusiast-run forum where people still argue about review scores every damn day, has better and stricter moderation against bigotry in all its forms.

You're sticking your head in the sand on this and it's cowardly. I know you're better than this. Make an effort. Posting the news story isn't enough if you're gonna let your community just go to shit like this.

@austin_walker@jeff

Disagreeing with your political stances is not "bigotry." Censoring opinions that do not agree with yours is not "moderation." You don't have the right to walk through life unoffended and unchallenged and you cheapen words like bigotry and racism and sexism when you throw them around like punctuation to your opinions.

Gamergate is no more a hate group than anti-gamergate is. Both sides have bad apples in equal distribution that are doing harm to all of us, just because you agree with one side or the other doesn't white wash what those people do in the name of the opinion you agree with. Just blasting an angry opinion onto this comment section like this does nothing to further a dialogue or even a debate where common ground can be found to resolve this rift in the gaming community. I know you're coming from a place where you honestly think you're doing good and I would hope that you could acknowledge that people like me are also coming from a place of doing good because that's the first step to ever fixing this mess.

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@bagsquad said:

this is a bummer now matter how you look at it. gamer culture is just fucked on all levels and almost beyond repair.

Yes, its a bummer they cancelled both panels. However, I think the culture is stronger and better than ever. More people are playing games than ever before. More people are discussing, reviewing, and commenting than ever before. There are more platforms and types of games than ever before. The biggest lament with Steam is there are TOO MANY GAMES and trying to find hidden gems is harder than ever. Whatever your favorite type of game, there is a large community you can interact with.

Just look at today's Sony's presentation. There were so many styles, types, genres, amazing ideas and creativity on display. The culture is stronger and more positive than ever if you really look.

I love this site because it is a celebration of games and the people who make them and nothing makes me smile more when you hear that sense of joy and wonder on a podcast or video. I love everyone here who has a passion for games and wonderful positive community that is here.

Are there bad elements in every culture yes? Certain people find pleasure in trolling others. They only have one side and is whichever one gives them license to cause the most disruption and havoc.

Don't let those people define the culture. Instead celebrate the great ideas/people/games.

You want to drive people away from an industry or hobby and continue to have people think the culture is horrible and "toxic"? Constantly tell people its horrible, the people are terrible, the odds are stacked against you, etc. etc.

Don't let yourself drown in the negativity. Instead find those good things and celebrate them. That is how you draw people in and make the culture better.

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As someone who has followed this controversy and finds most of it ridiculous along with the idea that having pretty women in your game makes the game terrible being ridiculous I find it rather odd to say that the panel would not have gone in the gamer gate direction. It most certainly would have. Getting the people involved to talk about gaming without it going in that direction is impossible. I submit that what the call harassment is not really harassment and as such we are already in gamer gate controversy area.

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