Us vs. Them: Overwatch

@jordost: Yeah, we did the All Mei once as a goof but to change things up but quickly went back to a normal group and we really weren't serious about it. A couple of people on our team had never even played Mei before and didn't know what her abilities were or anything, it was just for fun. But yeah, no one wants to go up against a bunch of Bastions/Mercys or Roadhogs/Tracers, that just isn't fun or interesting.

@szlifier Is the chat for this one going up on QLcrew?

The stereotyping of players by hero choice is very interesting to me :D Like only "edgy" play reaper. I think its BS but it definitely influences my character choices when im playing overwatch, like I'll def get down on some reaper if I think it'll help us win, but I prefer not to just because I think people will think I'm a douchebag.

*edit changed class choice to hero choice

@steveurkel: So what your saying is, its both a little bit like a Moba in the "you really need to sit down and learn what to do before you ever play" and also "If your bad, its very very obvious to everyone else" and also "One person being bad can spoil it for the entire other team"..so..

So what your saying is someone like me should stay far far FAR away from this game and drop it deep down the well of "Stuff I am never going to be good enough at not to be overwhelmed with abusive language and 'god I hope I am not messing this up for everyone with my being new" because, indeed, I will be doing exactly that?

Good to know I can keep skipping OW content as I have been so far then. Back to Stellaris and my other lovely single-player experiences it is.

@bladededge: I don't really think that's true. The characters are simple to pick up and learn the fundamentals on and it's not nearly so dire if you happen to be the newcomer or weaker link of your team. You can still get in there and have fun and probably do just fine.

The people who try to be super serious about team comp and player skill in this game seem to be having a way worse time because quick play is just full of people who just want to do whatever.

For the millions of adoring Sparkolytes out there wondering where I was tonight for the big game, they dust me off and bring me out when there's a Disgaea 5 showdown. Sorry to disappoint, but I'm proud of the others for their dominating, ever-so-dashing performance tonight.

@bladededge: I feel like any multiplayer game above a certain level of complexity is going to have the issues you're describing. I think OW does a better job of handling these issues than most games though.

@deaddprophet: Your absolutely right on the "any multiple player game..' Bit. I was triggering off "so this sounds from what's being described as being an especially egregious example of that kind of thing?" I'm firmly in the 'social anxiety makes most multi-player games a no-go for me. from MMOs on down.

Fun stream to watch and take part in, I am tronicus in the last two games.

Thanks to fobwashed for coordinating!

"Eat me" -KillerBee, 2016

This is the only thing better than playing Overwatch.

i just dont get it, game just seems like brink with more participants.

@bladededge: Ohh gotcha, okay well thanks for explaining =) For what its worth, i noted you said you like stellaris earlier and I bought that, like it, but I keep not playing it cuz it stresses me out, so many choices!

Maybe it's just me but spawn camping at the start of a defensive round is just about the dumbest thing you can do

Yeah it loses a ton of games, or at least complicates what could be relatively easy wins. All risk no reward.

@tescovee: Wasnt brink actually really cool too though? I know it tanked badly and I sadly never got to play online with real people because I got it for 2euros after the multiplayer was already long dead but it seemed way more interesting to me than many other multiplayer shooter that gen on console from a game-mechanics perspective.

@lestephan: it was a game with cool gameplay but unplayable servers and if I remember right there wasn't even a party system to join games with a group of friends

Can't wait to watch the rest of it. It sucks I worked the day they're doing this. Ah well. ;____;

Serious question: I've seen people mention these settings a bunch, but can't seem to find them. Are they not just in options somewhere? (On console, if that matters).

Yeah I tried to find those settings also and in the control options you can set up character specific key bindings but nothing like what other people mentioned. Why is it so hidden?

In what world is triple tracer triple roadhog a good setup?

Danny was super last minute and Will just happened to be online so I tried to get him into the second GB contributor team but he responded too late >,< I was a little worried ppl wouldn't be happy that slots were being taken up by non-GB member/community ppl but I think everyone had a good time so whatever =]

thanks for helping to organize this duder! so far a very fun stream.

It's crazy how insanely good players have gotten at Overwatch. There are a lot of features in the game encouraging new FPS players, but none of that is going to matter when someone gets stomped 4 matches in a row. They will give up. There should be matchmaking for different skill levels of players. With so many statistics gathered it has to be possible.

This maybe deserves two responses.

1: They couldn't really do an East vs West because the numbers to fill teams just wasn't there and the idea of a 3v3 in Overwatch seems kinda bad. Also, it's my opinion that playing against the community is way better than playing against internet randos cuz the players all know who they're up against and we can cheer for both sides.

2: Go shit somewhere else.

I'm sure there is an Elo rating or something that matchmaking is already looking at.

Good times! Brad taking out Pascal mid-air seemed like Play of the Night to me.

Oh and thanks @fobwashed for doing the spectator stream and assembling the opposing forces. It's never fun to wrestle with an unresponsive Battle.net.

Even though they got their arses kicked, I enjoyed watching this (though there was this constant knacking of "why am I not just playing this myself?!") the whole way through. That Pharah POTG...

This was fun to watch, Thanks to @fobwashed for running it.

@grulet: yea, wish they would go back to doing more shows involving the community.

They're under the Controls page of the options, there's a little drop-down box that has character specific keybinds and a few characters have their own options there.

For some reason, though, the Lucio toggle/hold option doesn't exist on consoles.

Vinny needs to learn to swing his hammer more often.

Was a lot of fun to watch. Wish they were up against guys more their skill level though. Was still a blast to watch, and even when they got destroyed was fun.

My favorite part was when they were all hiding behind reinhart, and they get rocketed all together in one big cluster, and you see it in the play of the game and it is just glorious.

I wish that they could have matchmaked against people in quick play at their skill level. I mean the people that game matched them with was absurd. Makes sense though that most 6v6 are probably people trying to be all pro lol.

Yes, If I can get the archive to a usable state. The chat was insanely broken.

Fun to watch, but it hurt.

Thanks for organising Mr Washed.

Tough to watch at times if you've played a bunch of OW lately though haha

100% agreed on that haha

This was super entertaining and I really hope they do it again. Considering that some of the crew still play Overwatch and that the matchmaking will maybe be better next time, I have my hopes up. I know stuff like this are mostly one-off's but seeing them win that one game was amazing.

I really hope they do this again

Props to @fobwashed for helping to put this together. However, if there's another episode it might be better to create 2 teams of 6 from their own ranks somehow, and try and spread out the number of experienced players so it's not super one sided (Danny, Bianca, Will etc). Seeing the duders repeatedly stomped became a little disheartening.

You guys really should get together and play DOTA. People love when you don't know how to play DOTA.

@mike: Here you go.

Hold on, I thought this was Dota2?

Nah it's Paragon

I enjoyed watching this.

The biggest thing I had to learn in this game was to not get baited by other players to chase them around away from the team/objectives.

What they should do is get 12 people and play in customs using a dodgeball team pick, play for like 40-60 mins, then repick since everyone will know the skill levels better. This allows for both fairer teams and hilarity from the picks.

Great to see the guys having so much fun playing together, as others have said it made me miss TNT.

This lady seems to cover the "secret" settings pretty well.

Giant Bomb against the group of randos had a sick combo of Reinhardt and Junkrat ult. Those dudes were all pretty high level though, Zenyatta was level 136!