Yep, Nintendo’s Making a Bigger Circle Pad Pro

I agree with what Jeff said on the podcast; I'm not interested in the kinds of games which require a second stick being on handhelds.

I'll probably jump aboard the 3DS train with an XL. I have pretty poor eyesight so the bigger screen will definitely be a bit more pleasant to use for me.

This was pretty much inevitable, don't want to split that market share yous guys. I don't think you can beat gamecube's PSO controller though.

@Chop said:

Eh, I don't know. Throwing a second stick right on the system seems like it would alienate too many first generation 3DS owners. I just don't think they'd split up their consumer base like that.

If they are still able to buy circle pad pro then it wouldn't be splitting up the base. If they were locked out of the circle pad pro it would be a totally different story.

Nintendo have finally lost the plot... right guys? 

charging kids twice. and they wonder why the handheld market is dead.

Nintendo are just building up to the inevitable...

Atleast the Vita had a second stick from the start. :P

Nothing screams handheld like a big ass 3DS surrounded by a huge circle pad pro. Will we also get a new stand for the 3DS XL...? This is so dumb.

This is...so stupid. Who makes the decisions over there?

@TripMasterMunky said:

@fisk0 said:

@Abendlaender said:

@fisk0 said:

@C_Rakestraw said:

Nintendo, please -- if you're gonna go through the trouble of releasing this add-on, just add the damn thing to the system already.

NO! I hope they keep adding ridiculous things to it. Extra shoulder button + trackball expansion to add to the circle pad pro expansion.

They should totally bring back the GameBoy Printer, come on Nintendo.

GOD, YES! Turn the 3DS into an unnecessarily bulky and large Polaroid camera!

Well I'll just connect this game cart to the game genie, which sits next to the worm light and then over the magnifying glass and speaker rig I have attached to my game boy as well.

Suddenly 1lb device is like 10lbs.

http://www.retrosection.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/KrogrothGameBoy.jpg

Yeah, but 10lbs of pure, rare AWESOMENESS

Since beating RE: revelations with the circle pad pro I've noticed myself playing my 3ds more and more with the circle pad pro on even if it doesn't work with the 3ds game I'm playing. Must be how it fits better ergonomically in my hand compared to crab fingering my hands which causing cramping in my hands during long periods of play. Wonder if anyone else have had the same issues with the size of the 3ds in their hands. In truth though why not just do an entire redesign and incorporate it.

Since beating RE: revelations with the circle pad pro I've noticed myself playing my 3ds more and more with the circle pad pro on even if it doesn't work with the 3ds game I'm playing. Must be how it fits better ergonomically in my hand compared to crab fingering my hands which causing cramping in my hands during long periods of play. Wonder if anyone else have had the same issues with the size of the 3ds in their hands. In truth though why not just do an entire redesign and incorporate it.

this is stupid as shit. Seriously I don't think I see nintendo being competitive in 5 years.

@I_Stay_Puft said:

Since beating RE: revelations with the circle pad pro I've noticed myself playing my 3ds more and more with the circle pad pro on even if it doesn't work with the 3ds game I'm playing. Must be how it fits better ergonomically in my hand compared to crab fingering my hands which causing cramping in my hands during long periods of play. Wonder if anyone else have had the same issues with the size of the 3ds in their hands. In truth though why not just do an entire redesign and incorporate it.

Because some people believe it will create fragmentation when the CPP can still be bought. Somewhere down the line, that redesign has to be coming and for the 3DS owners who do not have the CPP yet, there will be a game with the hardware pack-in, hopefully.

It's almost an arcade cabinet now

Dammit. I don't have to care about the 3DS till Fire Emblem arrives, but it seems like it's going to before they release a proper 3DS.

I wonder if it's all some sort of crazy long-term planning. Like they know that holding back that extra stick for the next gen handheld will buy them a few early adopters.

@TripMasterMunky said:

@fisk0 said:

@Abendlaender said:

@fisk0 said:

@C_Rakestraw said:

Nintendo, please -- if you're gonna go through the trouble of releasing this add-on, just add the damn thing to the system already.

NO! I hope they keep adding ridiculous things to it. Extra shoulder button + trackball expansion to add to the circle pad pro expansion.

They should totally bring back the GameBoy Printer, come on Nintendo.

GOD, YES! Turn the 3DS into an unnecessarily bulky and large Polaroid camera!

Well I'll just connect this game cart to the game genie, which sits next to the worm light and then over the magnifying glass and speaker rig I have attached to my game boy as well.

Suddenly 1lb device is like 10lbs.

http://www.retrosection.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/KrogrothGameBoy.jpg

I miss the days when handheld systems could look so insane/awesome.

No matter how much you complain nothing will change. They are still going to release it. So accept it and move on.

The most stubborn company.

The Circle Pad Pro is crazy and that they're making another, larger one is even crazier but the frankenpad isn't all bad. I actually find it's more comfortable to use, and I've really enjoyed playing RE Revelaytons with it.

@Hailinel said:

Cool. As a left-handed standard CPP owner, Kid Icarus is wonderful to play using it. Fuck all of the haters.

I don't really think anyone is "hating" on it so much as being confused as to why Nintendo just didn't add a second stick to the revision. Now you have to go out and buy a secondary accessory that will make your 3DSXL even BIGGER. The fact that they're making a new CPP for the revision obviously indicates that they think a second stick is necessary.

they should have just built it in :\

i hope they add a GPU for 32X the performance.

There's nothing wrong with either of these 3DSs. The best games for it do not need another slider. The 3DS does not need to be the PS Vita.

I'm with Jeff on this one. A handheld doesn't need two analog sticks. Just because Vita has one doesn't mean it's needed for handheld games. Who wants to play an FPS or any other deep console style experience on such a small screen?

So they had the idea to make a new DS, yet clearly close to willingly not add another stick and instead sell this thing? Look, I understand the system may not need the stick, but if you're making a revision why not throw it in? I don't understand their logic behind this decision.

STRAP IT ON

Good a place as any:

Why isn't Nintendo learning? Is it really that hard to slap on a second analog stick?

@Jevonsp said:

this is stupid as shit. Seriously I don't think I see nintendo being competitive in 5 years.

Was this from 2000 or 2004?

@ThePilgrums said:

I'm with Jeff on this one. A handheld doesn't need two analog sticks. Just because Vita has one doesn't mean it's needed for handheld games. Who wants to play an FPS or any other deep console style experience on such a small screen?

I believe that he said that it's not that a handheld doesn't need it, it's that the 3DS made a mistake of not putting one on in the beginning.

And some people may want to play an fps, a tps, or a 3d adventure game on the go. A second stick allows those games to control more comfortably. Adding a second stick allows for a more variety of games while still retaining the unique games that the 3DS offers. The XL could have been a good place to start to putting the second stick on, because of the increased screen size and overall increased form factor. Instead they opted to make it even more bulkier by making it an add-on. They make the consumer pay twice if they want the CPP. This shows that Nintendo has not given up on the second stick and there will still be games that support it. Why not fully support it and just implement it now?

Maybe it'll be similar to how they dealt with the Wii MotionPlus where at first it was just an add-on piece to the standard Wii Remote, but eventually the Wii MotionPlus became built-in on the controller.

Oh you sonsabitches ...

Why isn't Nintendo learning? Is it really that hard to slap on a second analog stick?

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Now I just need to wait for the bigger stand in Kid Icarus XL. *crumple*

Nintendo 3DS 3XL

Oh, Nintendo...

@AngelN7 said:

Ha! april's fool right? is june that's why it's so april's fool.

April Fool's WITHIN April Fool's?!?!?!?!

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahaha

Fucking Nintendo.......

Hey, maybe don't buy it if you don't want it. Remember how so very few games use the regular pro? Yeah.

So they made a new, bigger 3DS without an additional analog stick only to follow the same mistake again? Seems legit.

@Hailinel said:

Cool. As a left-handed standard CPP owner, Kid Icarus is wonderful to play using it. Fuck all of the haters.

I don't really think anyone is "hating" on it so much as being confused as to why Nintendo just didn't add a second stick to the revision. 

I really have no idea what Nintendo is doing with their hardware, anymore. I just... I don't know, man...

It's a bit silly but I like it on my regular 3ds.

I'm with Jeff on this one. A handheld doesn't need two analog sticks. Just because Vita has one doesn't mean it's needed for handheld games. Who wants to play an FPS or any other deep console style experience on such a small screen?

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See I don't get this at all...and I know it's just Jeff's opinion...I don't mean any disrespect here

But for years, how many gaming websites banged on and on about how the PSP desperately needed a 2nd analog nub??? That's all I used to read at the height of the PSP vs. DS days

Cut forward to today, and now all of a sudden, everyone is okay with one Analog Stick??? Wasn't that what everyone was complaining about for years???

It's not just effective for shooters...I played the Kingdom Hearts 3D demo recently...the first thing I thought was "the camera controls are shit, I want my 2nd analog"...note my disapointment that the demo doesn't support the CCP. I think having a 2nd Analog is vital for any game that uses a 3D camera. This is a big part of the reason I have trouble playing my old Dreamcast games anymore (most notably Jet Set Radio)

For myself, I want the 2nd Analog Nub...not because its going to open up to shooters...but because it just makes any game using a 3D camera all the more better.

I don't really understand what happen? Gamers moaned about the lack of 2nd analog nub on PSP...but now they're more then willing to accept the fact that it isn't there? Hell some gamers are more then willing to accept having no physical controls (the iPad and such)

Personally I'm glad the Vita has it out of the box...I know I may sound a bit fanboyish but after playing my Vita...it was really hard to go back to my 3DS without it (although the CCP did rectify this problem)

I found it impossible to enjoy RE Revelations without it...MGS Snake Eater, well I had 150 hours of Peace Walker under my belt so the control scheme wasn't impossible, but geez the CCP really did make a huge noticeable difference...Kingdom Hearts Demo suffered from lack of 2nd Analog Circle (I'm still looking forward to it, but am so looking forward to playing it with the CCP)...for myself, I want it. I think its vital

But I'll stop banging on

@metalsnakezero said:

Why isn't Nintendo learning? Is it really that hard to slap on a second analog stick?

Exactly. If Sony could pull it off with the PS Vita, why can't Nintendo do the same with the 3DS XL?

Great, now they should release games worth buying for the system.

@Rox360 said:

I really have no idea what Nintendo is doing with their hardware, anymore. I just... I don't know, man...

I really don't know if Nintendo knows what they are doing with their hardware at this point. They have done some questionable things in the past and have usually managed to justify themselves down the line ( whad'ya mean 2 sceens!? Who'd want that?) but I'm thinking that that the 3ds should have had time to properly 'ripen' for decent titles by now.

I kinda regret buying one at this point as the only game I've found worth playing on it still is Mario 3d Land.

@danmann861: The problem lies in games that emulate console experiences, but without the 2nd analog stick. I believe Jeff wants games that don't feel hampered by the lack of another analog stick.