" 60$ is the normal price of games nowadays. It's a bit silly to complain about it still.  "

" @Xanth93: Fair enough, I won't go into why I opened my post the way I did as you already stated you have no interest in it, however, I would like to ask if you could respond the way you just did now, rather than simply quoting me and only adding "This". It is difficult for me to ascertain the criticism with only one word given. "

I'm definitely not paying $60 for this game either, regardless of platform. The demo proved this game isn't worth more than $40 to me brand new.

" This probably isn't very helpful, but you can order it online in the UK for about $30.  So if I were you I just wouldn't buy it on principle.
 
@ViciousReiven said:

" Suck it up, we always have to deal with this crap and you should too. "

Nope.  There's no platform tax to pay on PC so he shouldn't have to "deal with this crap".  Maybe if you stopped sucking it up then you wouldn't have to deal with it either. "

" @XII_Sniper said:

" 60$ is the normal price of games nowadays. It's a bit silly to complain about it still.  "

Not really. Here in England most console games are £40-45 whereas PC games mostly retail for about £30 at the most, usually £25 off of Amazon/Play. For devs to start paying a third, or more, extra isn't a good move, nor is it really necessary. "

" @doejonathan said:

" @Xanth93: Fair enough, I won't go into why I opened my post the way I did as you already stated you have no interest in it, however, I would like to ask if you could respond the way you just did now, rather than simply quoting me and only adding "This". It is difficult for me to ascertain the criticism with only one word given. "

I'm pretty sure the criticism is that you compared theft of a $60, nonphysical game to rape. I don't care how anti-piracy you are, that's absurd and in extremely bad taste. "

" pirate it "

In the UK the epic edition is going for £40. Which is normal retail price for a video game. Just thought I'd rub salt in the wound. :P

Who gives a shit?  It's Bulletstorm, not some AAA rated title.  It will be discounted on Steam within 3 months.

lol, like you expected anything less?

" well, i guess i am just going to have to wait to play bulletstorm. I just hope that, if the game fails to sell on PC, Epic doesn't blame piracy. Unproven IP from a B-tier developer ≠ $60 value on pc "

" I didn't even buy StarCraft 2 day one.  This trend of $60 PC games needs to die. "

The people who are going to buy bulletstorm on day one are the same people who rush out and buy every mediocre game with heavy marketing.

I think the time to bitch about this is over now. Save from some smaller developer games, most games nowadays are going to carry the 60 dollar price tag.
 
Except for Valve's stuff. Just do what the enlightened ones are suggesting. Buy it on steam a year or two later for 5 bucks. Now that's how you beat the man!

" The people who are going to buy bulletstorm on day one are the same people who rush out and buy every mediocre game with heavy marketing. "

" Man, PC gamers are a bunch of bitches, get the fuck over it. "

" @blueduck said:

" The people who are going to buy bulletstorm on day one are the same people who rush out and buy every mediocre game with heavy marketing. "

I also hope you include all Call Of Duty titles and all Halo titles in this assumption as well, even if your statement is far more fitting to the titles I mentioned than calling Bulletstorm, "mediocre." Running with the pack, I see. You have to fit in somewhere with some group of people. This is nothing new. 
 
@CaptainCody said: 

" Man, PC gamers are a bunch of bitches, get the fuck over it. "

I'm quoting somebody else for an opinion I agree with. Games have been sixty dollars since the beginning of this current generation cycle. It's about time we stopped complaining about something that can't be changed. This hiked price tag only helps to make it obvious which are the bad games, which are the decent games and which are the excellent games, hopefully leading you to be a bit more careful about your purchasing decisions. Fortunately, it seems as if, from what I have played, Bulletstorm fits into the "excellent" category. "

Bulletstorm is (well, at least for me) kind of a bad example since that game doesnt seem to be very ... uhm ... good? ... But overall even if there is the "60 €/$" trend for PC games I never actually payed that. There are so many options to get games (and no, I DONT mean pirate them) that I hardly pay 50 Bucks for a new release, let alone 60. If I really really really want a game I pay up to 50 bucks, other than that the average I pay is about 20 to 30.

I wanted this game till I saw it was $60 and requires a widows live account. Wouldn't install it if it was given to me for free.

Are you kidding me? It's never time to stop complaining. We as customers have the say in how things are priced. Always be complaining and always be challenging. Things never change without the voice of the consumer.

The people in here that say deal with it disgust me. I will never shut up so long as there is something to complain about, and neither should you.

Ok don't games just cost $60 when they're first released?  Price is only a consideration I give when games cost more than that.  Not sure if I'm missing something but I pretty much see no issue here.

" @Waffles13: Even though you are directly replying to my post, I am not sure who you are trying to convince. You are still trying to point out the differences between the two. I do not like to repeat myself and I feel I made it very clear in my previous post that similarities between two thing does not mean that they must be the same thing. You are saying the law is not a static thing, I agree with you, just like our ethics aren't static, yet you say pirating a game is less of an offence than shoplifting (not even mentioning what item is being shoplifted) as if it is a fact. I degraded myself already by doing something I never thought I had to do: explaining to another human being that piracy and rape are not the same thing. I thought the gist of the statement that I originally replied to in y first post in this thread, was rather ridiculous, I pointed this out with a remark that showed similarities but with a subject that, hopefully, does not contain any ambiguity in civilized eyes. The hyperbole adds to the intention.  I have been thinking in how to ease your mind as you stated you are frightened, and, I honestly don't know how. I don't know how to counter someone who continues to see things that aren't there. I'm sorry I could not be of more help, but I do not apologize for any previous posts as I stand by them. "

I think blizzard is the only developer who can pull that off well on PC. I'm sure a lot of people would even pay 60 bucks for a WOW expansion if they had to, but for a game that was developed for the consoles...why not just get it on 360 or PS3. The PC version is a pass for me...unless I eventually torrent it sometime.

" What's crazy to me is that it's $40 on the 360 and PS3.  At least via Amazon.  I have no idea how they manage to make a profit, but they keep getting my pre-orders. I really have no understanding of people that pre-order at full price. from a place that also charges sales tax (like best Buy and Gamestop). "

" @YoungFrey said:

" What's crazy to me is that it's $40 on the 360 and PS3.  At least via Amazon.  I have no idea how they manage to make a profit, but they keep getting my pre-orders. I really have no understanding of people that pre-order at full price. from a place that also charges sales tax (like best Buy and Gamestop). "

No it's not. "

" @Waffles13: I indeed did compare piracy to rape. As they both share similarities, Piracy is against the law, rape is also against the law. You seem to think I suggested that therefore doing anything against the law means it must be either rape or piracy, or even that rape and piracy must be the same thing. This would be a false statement, wouldn't you agree?  
 
The reason I constructed my analogy as such was to counter the idea surrounding piracy is that there is some kind of ambiguity to the meaning of the word.More often than not, when piracy is discussed there seems to be a tendency to find an excuse. I used rape in my analogy because it comparable, they are both against the law. In almost every part of the world, regardless of religion, politics or race, rape is considered immoral. There is no ambiguity. Rape brings up a gut reaction of anger and disgust, while with piracy there is a tendency to somehow justify it. Even in your reply you point out specifically that it concerns a $60 nonphysical item, as if the law does not apply to anything nonphysical. 
Whoopi Goldberg made an infamous statement regarding Roman Polanski's sexual assault case that there is rape, and than there is "rape"-rape. While I understand what she was trying to say (the severity of rape cases are not all the same, they should be judged individually), it is still a crime, no matter how you look at it.  
The same goes for piracy. The word itself indicates directly that it addresses an act that is illegal. If a country does not have any copyright laws, copying software is no longer piracy, it is just copying software.  
 
I never said rape and theft are the same thing.  That would be ridiculous.  It would also be a false conclusion.
 
@Xanth93: @HaltIamReptar:  The topic was about the price of an upcoming game. You will notice that a lot of times when software prices are discussed, piracy ens up being part of the conversation. I was replying to someone who argued piracy isn't piracy when nothing is lost. I used an analogy written in a Daily Show style statement to point out how I feel it does not hold up. I merely tried to change the perspective. If you feel piracy shouldn't have been discussed in the first place, you could have simply ignored it. It is an open forum, sometimes a discussion can lead to different topics, you don't always need to go with it, but I don't quite understand how my posts were any less meaningful that yours. "

Meh. I'm probably just going to buy it used on the 360 a year from now.

" @Napalm said:

" @YoungFrey said:

" What's crazy to me is that it's $40 on the 360 and PS3.  At least via Amazon.  I have no idea how they manage to make a profit, but they keep getting my pre-orders. I really have no understanding of people that pre-order at full price. from a place that also charges sales tax (like best Buy and Gamestop). "

No it's not. "

When you factor in the $20 credit good for almost anything Amazon sells, yes, It's $40(unless they killed the deal, but it was valid when I posted).  And for me that is $25 cheaper than buying it in a store.  It's not instantly $40, but it works out over time. "