Apparently MW3 on PC will not have dedicated servers Which in my mind is absolutely fantastic. Call of Duty is a game where people feel the need to bitch about everything. So when you give people control over the server rules, they proceed to make everything incredibly lame.

"Umm excuse me, this is a crouch only server. I'll kick you if you stand up again!" (Seriously, people try and balance the game on PC by making everyone do nothing but crouch walk, there are dozens of servers like this.) or you find a server where they ban noobtubes, or last stand, or the Famas, or Ghost, or something equally stupid. Add to that, hundreds of 24/7 Nuketown servers and Admins that will kick you for getting a better score then them and it makes it all a seriously pissy experience.

Dedicated servers are meant for slower games, Battlefield needs them because when your going to be playing the same round for half an hour or so. You want to have a consistent experience. But in COD, the round will last maybe 10 minutes at most. Having a matchmaking system works for that length of game because if the host changes and theres more lag, you'll only have to deal with it for a fraction of the time. It also makes jumping in and out of a game so much easier, just hit a button and play, rather than spend time finding a low ping server and then hoping it doesn't crash.

Dedicated servers are great in alot of games, but not Call of Duty. (At least not the Call of Duty we know today.)

do the official dedicated servers not rectify this?  
on consoles when there are no custom dedicated servers its always better.

I love CoD haters tears, so this is great news.

i dont want to live on this planet anymore

@buft said:

do the official dedicated servers not rectify this? on consoles when there are no custom dedicated servers its always better.

I never really found too many people on the official servers, there was rarely a consistent playerbase for them. You leave and come back the next day and they'd all be completely empty. They also we're spread out very well, so the ping wasn't as good.

Also, I feel like matchmaking is the multiplayer experience Infinity Ward wanted us to have in MW2, when you add dedicated servers it changes the experience.

What? That's horrible.. it may be fine for consoles, but that's the reason why I didn't buy MW2.

@emem said:

What? That's horrible.. it may be fine for consoles, but that's the reason why I didn't buy MW2

I think I was pissed about dedicated servers when MW2 was announced as not having them. But then I tried it and had a much smoother experience.

@billnyethesciencepie said:

Yeah HOW DARE WE HAVE MORE OPTIONS FOR PLAY HOW DARE WE

But dedicated servers didn't give anymore options in Black Ops, all you had was other people limiting what you could do. You could also do a hell of alot in a private match in MW2. If you want freedom just wait until they hack MW3.

That's terrible.

Getting rid of dedicated servers for the examples and reasons you gave is the reason why we can't have nice things.

I have never, ever had a problem like what you're describing for black ops.

I agree with the OP! Taking away peoples abilities to customize the game how they want is always a great thing! Who wants to waste the 20 seconds it takes to find a new server when you join one that has rules you don't like, or to find one that you like and just bookmark it so you can comeback to it every night and play with the same group of awesome people. Right on man! Down with choice! Freedom is for losers!

lol CoD on PC lol

Apparently MW3 on PC will not have dedicated servers Which in my mind is absolutely fantastic. Call of Duty is a game where people feel the need to bitch about everything. So when you give people control over the server rules, they proceed to make everything incredibly lame.

"Umm excuse me, this is a crouch only server. I'll kick you if you stand up again!" (Seriously, people try and balance the game on PC by making everyone do nothing but crouch walk, there are dozens of servers like this.) or you find a server where they ban noobtubes, or last stand, or the Famas, or Ghost, or something equally stupid. Add to that, hundreds of 24/7 Nuketown servers and Admins that will kick you for getting a better score then them and it makes it all a seriously pissy experience.

Dedicated servers are meant for slower games, Battlefield needs them because when your going to be playing the same round for half an hour or so. You want to have a consistent experience. But in COD, the round will last maybe 10 minutes at most. Having a matchmaking system works for that length of game because if the host changes and theres more lag, you'll only have to deal with it for a fraction of the time. It also makes jumping in and out of a game so much easier, just hit a button and play, rather than spend time finding a low ping server and then hoping it doesn't crash.

Fucking hate dedicated servers for black ops.

24/7 NUKETOWN

X GUNS ONLY

NO THIS NO THAT

CROUCH ONLY (WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS)

Fucking hate dedicated servers for black ops.

24/7 NUKETOWN

X GUNS ONLY

NO THIS NO THAT

CROUCH ONLY (WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS)

How else will I get to play Zombie mod maps or Rifles only. That's why COD2 is still amazing. It had a huge community and none of the lame shit you mention there.

I know how to fix this... Counter Strike!

@Scooper said:

How else will I get to play Zombie mod maps or Rifles only. That's why COD2 is still amazing. It had a huge community and none of the lame shit you mention there.

Loved COD2 Multiplayer, I put 100s of hours into it. But it was a different game from the COD of today.

Battlefield 3 multilayer gameplay on Tuesday guys, that is all.

Someone correct if my line of reasoning is wrong. 
 
No dedicated server means no server admin > no server admin means no kick functionality > no kick functionality means the inevitable wave of hackers, who will ruin this game before the VAC system kicks in, will have their way? 
 
No thanks, MW3.

*mumble mumble* alteriw.net *mumble mumble* something something mw2 dedicated servers. *cough*

@Scooper said:

How else will I get to play Zombie mod maps or Rifles only. That's why COD2 is still amazing. It had a huge community and none of the lame shit you mention there.

Loved COD2 Multiplayer, I put 100s of hours into it. But it was a different game from the COD of today.

Thank god.
The decision has been made for me.
Now I know when to stop buying COD.

lol lol lol lol lol lol

@Mikemcn said:

Also, I feel like matchmaking is the multiplayer experience Infinity Ward wanted us to have in MW2, when you add dedicated servers it changes the experience.

sorry ... but what? So the "experience" IW wants us to have is crappy matchmaking where the host always has a huge advantage and you getting a decent ping is pretty much luck? Not to speak of the communitys that form around decicated servers. Half of my friendslist in steam are people I met on the TF2 server I play on. Well ... if THAT is the experience they want us to have ... nah, thanks.

That's terrible.

That said, there are way better options than CoD on the PC.

@CL60: the fucking problem is that there's too many of these servers and i need to hunt for a regular one.

Like a wife convincing herself that her abusive husband loves her.

lol what a joke. I'm done with CoD anyway. Bring on Battlefield 3.

People are actually trying to argue this is a good thing? Are you for fucking real?

@iAmJohn said:

People are actually trying to argue this is a good thing? Are you for fucking real?

This.

If there are tons of servers and dedicated servers gives you the option to not join them! Jesus christ..

Reason why PC gamers love dedicated servers... no one has host advantage.   You can find a server where your Ping doesn't feel like shit.  It's not hard to see why matchmaking was replaced years ago on the PC for dedicated servers.
 
  example of host advantage.

Fucking hate dedicated servers for black ops.

24/7 NUKETOWN

X GUNS ONLY

NO THIS NO THAT

CROUCH ONLY (WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS)

Honestly dude, dedicated servers are the best thing about multiplayer PC gaming. It allows people to play the game however they want. Dedicated servers are not meant for slower games. The Quake games, which make COD games look like snail racing, worked well with dedicated servers. Dedicated servers allows a player to find a reliable place to play instead of rolling the dice with a matchmaking service.

There are also some downsides to dedicated servers. I remember getting kicked/banned from many COD1 servers because the admins taught I was cheating. I believe the correct term is 'hackusation'. Around 18 months after COD1 came, it became difficult to find a server running the non-modified game. Nearly every server had unannounced tweaks to the game rules(e.g., more recoil on automatics, slower walk speed, etc). Eventually you find a standard server only to get 'hackused' by the admins.

Anyway, I will not play MW3 on the PC because of religious reasons (no dedicated servers).

So people cry when there are no dedicated servers and then complain when there is? Fuck sakes.

@Scooper:Do you know if COD 2's multiplayer still on the go? I might install it again if it still has some players.

@CL60 said:

@thehexeditor said:

Fucking hate dedicated servers for black ops.

24/7 NUKETOWN

X GUNS ONLY

NO THIS NO THAT

CROUCH ONLY (WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS)

Don't join those ones then? Is this such a hard concept? 90% of them have said rules in the title of the server ffs.

I found a dozen or so severs that didnt have that, then the map pack came out and now I only had one server I could play on without getting booted for not having the DLC.

@Binman88: Im not against dedicated servers, im against dedicated servers in Modern Warfare 3.

@Mikemcn: I don't know. It seems you're trolling dedicated server fans to me. No matter the game, options are glorious.

During the Steam free weakened for Black Ops it took forever to find a vanilla server. I would be happy for Matchmaking and no server list for that game.

@Claude said:

@Mikemcn: I don't know. It seems you're trolling dedicated server fans to me. No matter the game, options are glorious.

Im sorry you read it like that then.

@Mikemcn said:

@Claude said:

@Mikemcn: I don't know. It seems you're trolling dedicated server fans to me. No matter the game, options are glorious.

Im sorry you read it like that then.

Maybe trolling is too harsh a word. More like poking them where it hurts. PC fans sure do like their options.

@Mikemcn said:

@Claude said:

@Mikemcn: I don't know. It seems you're trolling dedicated server fans to me. No matter the game, options are glorious.

Im sorry you read it like that then.

Maybe trolling is too harsh a word. More like poking them where it hurts. PC fans sure do like their options.

@SlasherMan said:

@Claude said:

@Mikemcn said:

@Claude said:

@Mikemcn: I don't know. It seems you're trolling dedicated server fans to me. No matter the game, options are glorious.

Im sorry you read it like that then.

Maybe trolling is too harsh a word. More like poking them where it hurts. PC fans sure do like their options.

Come on now, what's PC gaming without options?

That's why I PC.