Who says Western games aren't big in Japan. The PS3 Version of Modern Warfare 3 is #1 in Japan, ahead of Super Mario 3D Land & Saints Row: The Third. Source.
Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3
Game » consists of 14 releases. Released Nov 08, 2011
- Xbox 360
- PC
- PlayStation 3
- Wii
- + 4 more
- Xbox 360 Games Store
- PlayStation Network (PS3)
- Mac
- Nintendo DS
The last installment of the Modern Warfare trilogy brings World War 3 to the world of Call of Duty. While the U.S., British, and French armed forces try to push back the Russian invasion, the disavowed Task Force 141 begin their hunt for international terrorist Vladimir Makarov.
The World has gone crazy! CoD: MW3 #1 in Japan!
as i just got black ops congrats to mw 3, but ill wait til a price drop on that one maybe black friday 2012 ? along with forza 5 ? and sims 4 haha too realistic guess because those are the same two games i got around this time last yr and i got the follow ups this year hahah
@TepidShark said:
Who says Western games aren't big in Japan. The PS3 Version of Modern Warfare 3 is #1 in Japan
Well, Japanese gamers, at least judging by the bolded part :P.
@Video_Game_King said:
@TepidShark said:
Who says Western games aren't big in Japan. The PS3 Version of Modern Warfare 3 is #1 in Japan
Well, Japanese gamers, at least judging by the bolded part :P.
Whoa, the PS3 is a game? Never knew that.
I'm surprised, I thought that Saints Row The Third speaks truest to Japanese cultural sensibilities.
@MikkaQ:
I didn't know that there were Japanese consolers. Wait....let me start that over. My point was that they were saying, "OK, we'll buy this Western game, but not on a Western system." Or something like that.
@Video_Game_King said:
@MikkaQ:
I didn't know that there were Japanese consolers. Wait....let me start that over. My point was that they were saying, "OK, we'll buy this Western game, but not on a Western system." Or something like that.
I kinda assumed that's what you meant, but honestly... that's still a pretty big step. You'd never see that 10 years ago.
Japan loves consoles too, it's other parts of asia that seem pretty PC exclusive, Korea in particular.
@MikkaQ said:
@Video_Game_King said:
@TepidShark said:
Who says Western games aren't big in Japan. The PS3 Version of Modern Warfare 3 is #1 in Japan
Well, Japanese gamers, at least judging by the bolded part :P.
Whoa, the PS3 is a game? Never knew that.
I'm surprised, I thought that Saints Row The Third speaks truest to Japanese cultural sensibilities.
I'm curious to know what their reaction would be to Professor Genki (that and the whole Princess Robot Bubblegum thing from GTAIV: BoGT)... by which I don't mean like on an offensive scale or something, but how funny they'd find him and be all like ''oh that's SO Japanese TV! guffaaaaw!'' Hell, he probably actually exists over there already anywhoo.
@mariokart64fan said:
as i just got black ops congrats to mw 3, but ill wait til a price drop on that one maybe black friday 2012 ?
As of right now, I'd say Black Ops is the better COD game. That could change as IW fixes some things. MW3 is still quite fun at times, though.
@Bwast said:
@alternate said:
No different than the latest Final Fantasy (except maybe the last sucky one) selling well in the West for a few weeks.
Actually there is a difference. Final Fantasy has been here a helluva lot longer than Call of Duty has been over there.
Alright. No difference than Catherine selling 100k in the US. No different than Persona 4 selling a bunch in it's first week. No different than (add your own example from countless to choose from).
@SpaceInsomniac said:
@mariokart64fan said:
as i just got black ops congrats to mw 3, but ill wait til a price drop on that one maybe black friday 2012 ?
As of right now, I'd say Black Ops is the better COD game. That could change as IW fixes some things. MW3 is still quite fun at times, though.
Even if you dismiss the shitty maps with their low variety, flat design, often non-interactive objects (you could use a lot of objects and terrain in Black Ops that make going back to MW style very awkward and feel claustrophobic), and tight spaces it's hard to take a COD seriously when it has gone back to predator spam and heartbeat sensors.
Well, what else are they gonna play? In case you hadn't noticed, Japanese development is dead as a doornail, if not more so.
@Hailinel The topic I'm posting in is evidence enough, though one could cite an embarrassment of other signs.Western game development must have been dead for decades, then, since that's how long Japanese games have frequently appeared at the #1 spots on Western sales charts.
Your shitty "evidence" wouldn't even be valid if sales provided an accurate representation of quality and progress.
@chrismafuchris said:
Well, what else are they gonna play? In case you hadn't noticed, Japanese development is dead as a doornail, if not more so.
Just because Square-Enix has said it needs to rethink it's business plan doesn't mean the entire country has stopped making games because they don't sell in the west.
@Icemael: Except that quality has nothing in the world to do with the business of developing games. Sales are all that matter in this regard.
Moreover, saying that Japanese games have sold well stateside is a good example of completely missing the point, as what is important is not that the game is merely developed stateside, rather that the game is of a style that has traditionally only appealed to a Western audience. For example, if a Visual Novel or Pachinko game was a bestseller over here, you'd think that something was amiss.
I think most of the people who are all about Japanese games have gone deep into handhelds. If there was no big handheld release, I could see it.
Now that you've explained that you're just talking about sales and the business side of things, the implication of "Well, what else are they gonna play?" becomes "there aren't enough games being developed in Japan" instead of "all Japanese games suck", and it becomes clear that you are astronomically ignorant and stupid instead of just very ignorant and stupid.@Icemael: Except that quality has nothing in the world to do with the business of developing games. Sales are all that matter in this regard.
@chrismafuchris said:
It is you who are missing my point. You're proclaiming that one heavily advertised Western first-person shooter selling well in Japan is "evidence enough" that Japanese development is dead. I am pointing out that in the large scheme of things, it means jack shit. (Just as if, say, one visual novel was really heavily advertised in Western territories and ended up selling well, it would in no way, shape or form indicate that Western game development was dying -- only an idiot could make such an inference. And even if many visual novels and pachinko games and whatnot started doing really well in Western territories, that would still not mean that Western gaming was dying, because there is nothing that says that if one genre becomes popular, another must become unpopular as a result.)@Icemael: Except that quality has nothing in the world to do with the business of developing games. Sales are all that matter in this regard.
Moreover, saying that Japanese games have sold well stateside is a good example of completely missing the point, as what is important is not that the game is merely developed stateside, rather that the game is of a style that has traditionally only appealed to a Western audience. For example, if a Visual Novel or Pachinko game was a bestseller over here, you'd think that something was amiss.
@Icemael: What is your counterpoint? You're just saying "You're ignorant and wrong" without explaining why that is so. Can you think of 5 games this year that cater specifically to a very Japanese market that have sold especially well? The money's just not there.
@chrismafuchris said:
@Icemael: What is your counterpoint? You're just saying "You're ignorant and wrong" without explaining why that is so. Can you think of 5 games this year that cater specifically to a very Japanese market that have sold especially well? The money's just not there.
He's able to wield this argument because you have yet to prove that he's actually wrong.
@chrismafuchris said:
@Icemael: What is your counterpoint? You're just saying "You're ignorant and wrong" without explaining why that is so. Can you think of 5 games this year that cater specifically to a very Japanese market that have sold especially well? The money's just not there.
5 Japanese games that made it over seas this year, tatics ogre, re:coded, persona 2, dark souls, Valkyria chronicles two. They are niche titles and all portable games but they are also all quite good and none of them did too badly. One divisive final fantasy game and one bad one did not kill the game production of an entire country.
@Unknown_Pleasures:
If you don't know what any of this means, every other weeaboo will laugh you out of the room.
huh.... This is actually pretty crazy.... Goddamn I never thought Modern Warfare was actually big over there
@Hailinel: I'm not going to try and explain why this is when individuals who would know infinitely more than I (e.g. Hideo Kojima) have already thoroughly explained it. Without their insight, I could never hope to accurately depict the failings of Japanese development more than they can.
That is genuinely shocking. I remember seeing a couple of articles a month or so ago that said Xbox had failed in Japan and it didn't matter, and that the Japanese don't like games like Call of Duty. I guess this proves otherwise.
Here is the IGN Editorial (http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/118/1189705p1.html)
@Icemael: What is your counterpoint? You're just saying "You're ignorant and wrong" without explaining why that is so. Can you think of 5 games this year that cater specifically to a very Japanese market that have sold especially well? The money's just not there.
- Countless new Japanese games are released all the time. At least three were released in Japan last week, and at least seven the week before that, and so on. "There aren't enough games being developed in Japan" is bullshit you're pulling straight out of your ass.
- Five Japan-centric games that have sold well where? In Japan? Because that's easy: Catherine, Hatsune Miku: Project Diva Extend, Gyakuten Kenji 2, One Piece: Gigant Battle 2 and 2nd Super Robot Wars Z Hakai Volume.
@chrismafuchris said:
@Hailinel: I'm not going to try and explain why this is when individuals who would know infinitely more than I (e.g. Hideo Kojima) have already thoroughly explained it. Without their insight, I could never hope to accurately depict the failings of Japanese development more than they can.
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