The World has gone crazy! CoD: MW3 #1 in Japan!

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#1 Posted by TepidShark (1044 posts) -

Who says Western games aren't big in Japan. The PS3 Version of Modern Warfare 3 is #1 in Japan, ahead of Super Mario 3D Land & Saints Row: The Third. Source.

#2 Posted by mariokart64fan (366 posts) -

as i just got black ops congrats to mw 3, but ill wait til a price drop on that one maybe black friday 2012 ? along with forza 5 ? and sims 4 haha too realistic guess because those are the same two games i got around this time last yr and i got the follow ups this year hahah

#3 Posted by ImmortalSaiyan (4655 posts) -

Huh, fancy that.

#4 Posted by Video_Game_King (34571 posts) -

@TepidShark said:

Who says Western games aren't big in Japan. The PS3 Version of Modern Warfare 3 is #1 in Japan

Well, Japanese gamers, at least judging by the bolded part :P.

#5 Posted by MikkaQ (10224 posts) -

@Video_Game_King said:

@TepidShark said:

Who says Western games aren't big in Japan. The PS3 Version of Modern Warfare 3 is #1 in Japan

Well, Japanese gamers, at least judging by the bolded part :P.

Whoa, the PS3 is a game? Never knew that.

I'm surprised, I thought that Saints Row The Third speaks truest to Japanese cultural sensibilities.

#6 Posted by Video_Game_King (34571 posts) -

@MikkaQ:

I didn't know that there were Japanese consolers. Wait....let me start that over. My point was that they were saying, "OK, we'll buy this Western game, but not on a Western system." Or something like that.

#7 Posted by MikkaQ (10224 posts) -

@Video_Game_King said:

@MikkaQ:

I didn't know that there were Japanese consolers. Wait....let me start that over. My point was that they were saying, "OK, we'll buy this Western game, but not on a Western system." Or something like that.

I kinda assumed that's what you meant, but honestly... that's still a pretty big step. You'd never see that 10 years ago.

Japan loves consoles too, it's other parts of asia that seem pretty PC exclusive, Korea in particular.

#8 Posted by thehexeditor (1404 posts) -

The dubbed version isn't even out yet.. wow

#9 Posted by ZenaxPure (2569 posts) -

This isn't that weird, HUGE releases in the west often top charts in Japan as well for about a week, then they die off for good. Halo 3 did it as did MW2.

#10 Posted by Yummylee (20540 posts) -

@MikkaQ said:

@Video_Game_King said:

@TepidShark said:

Who says Western games aren't big in Japan. The PS3 Version of Modern Warfare 3 is #1 in Japan

Well, Japanese gamers, at least judging by the bolded part :P.

Whoa, the PS3 is a game? Never knew that.

I'm surprised, I thought that Saints Row The Third speaks truest to Japanese cultural sensibilities.

I'm curious to know what their reaction would be to Professor Genki (that and the whole Princess Robot Bubblegum thing from GTAIV: BoGT)... by which I don't mean like on an offensive scale or something, but how funny they'd find him and be all like ''oh that's SO Japanese TV! guffaaaaw!'' Hell, he probably actually exists over there already anywhoo.

#11 Posted by Video_Game_King (34571 posts) -

@MikkaQ:

To be fair, I was kinda joking. That's what the ":P" means.

#12 Posted by SpaceInsomniac (3321 posts) -

@mariokart64fan said:

as i just got black ops congrats to mw 3, but ill wait til a price drop on that one maybe black friday 2012 ?

As of right now, I'd say Black Ops is the better COD game. That could change as IW fixes some things. MW3 is still quite fun at times, though.

#13 Posted by Winternet (7935 posts) -

They're just playing MW3 in their breaks from Monster Hunter.

#14 Posted by Lunar_Aura (2780 posts) -

@Video_Game_King: colon pee

#15 Posted by alternate (2654 posts) -

No different than the latest Final Fantasy (except maybe the last sucky one) selling well in the West for a few weeks.

#16 Posted by Bwast (1334 posts) -

@alternate said:

No different than the latest Final Fantasy (except maybe the last sucky one) selling well in the West for a few weeks.

Actually there is a difference. Final Fantasy has been here a helluva lot longer than Call of Duty has been over there.

#17 Posted by AhmadMetallic (18955 posts) -

MARK IT ZERO

#18 Posted by alternate (2654 posts) -

@Bwast said:

@alternate said:

No different than the latest Final Fantasy (except maybe the last sucky one) selling well in the West for a few weeks.

Actually there is a difference. Final Fantasy has been here a helluva lot longer than Call of Duty has been over there.

Alright. No difference than Catherine selling 100k in the US. No different than Persona 4 selling a bunch in it's first week. No different than (add your own example from countless to choose from).

#19 Posted by Branthog (7332 posts) -

@SpaceInsomniac said:

@mariokart64fan said:

as i just got black ops congrats to mw 3, but ill wait til a price drop on that one maybe black friday 2012 ?

As of right now, I'd say Black Ops is the better COD game. That could change as IW fixes some things. MW3 is still quite fun at times, though.

Even if you dismiss the shitty maps with their low variety, flat design, often non-interactive objects (you could use a lot of objects and terrain in Black Ops that make going back to MW style very awkward and feel claustrophobic), and tight spaces it's hard to take a COD seriously when it has gone back to predator spam and heartbeat sensors.

#20 Posted by Yanngc33 (4496 posts) -

The entire world is fan of fancy facial hair

#21 Posted by chrismafuchris (1088 posts) -

Well, what else are they gonna play? In case you hadn't noticed, Japanese development is dead as a doornail, if not more so.

#22 Posted by Hailinel (22668 posts) -

@chrismafuchris said:

Well, what else are they gonna play? In case you hadn't noticed, Japanese development is dead as a doornail, if not more so.

*Notthisshitagain.jpg*

#23 Posted by chrismafuchris (1088 posts) -
@Hailinel Sorry, I hadn't realized that discerning fantasy from reality was so reprehensible.
#24 Posted by Hailinel (22668 posts) -

@chrismafuchris: Not as reprehensible as stating idiocy as fact without evidence.

#25 Posted by chrismafuchris (1088 posts) -
@Hailinel The topic I'm posting in is evidence enough, though one could cite an embarrassment of other signs.
#26 Posted by Icemael (6269 posts) -
@chrismafuchris said:
@Hailinel The topic I'm posting in is evidence enough, though one could cite an embarrassment of other signs.
Western game development must have been dead for decades, then, since that's how long Japanese games have frequently appeared at the #1 spots on Western sales charts.

Your shitty "evidence" wouldn't even be valid if sales provided an accurate representation of quality and progress.
#27 Edited by SoldierG654342 (1680 posts) -

@chrismafuchris said:

Well, what else are they gonna play? In case you hadn't noticed, Japanese development is dead as a doornail, if not more so.

Just because Square-Enix has said it needs to rethink it's business plan doesn't mean the entire country has stopped making games because they don't sell in the west.

#28 Posted by Jams (2956 posts) -

@Lunar_Aura said:

@Video_Game_King: colonoscapee

#29 Posted by RazielCuts (2711 posts) -

@chrismafuchris: Yeah but the reasons for it aren't that great to talk about.

#30 Edited by chrismafuchris (1088 posts) -

@Icemael: Except that quality has nothing in the world to do with the business of developing games. Sales are all that matter in this regard.

Moreover, saying that Japanese games have sold well stateside is a good example of completely missing the point, as what is important is not that the game is merely developed stateside, rather that the game is of a style that has traditionally only appealed to a Western audience. For example, if a Visual Novel or Pachinko game was a bestseller over here, you'd think that something was amiss.

#31 Posted by ExplodeMode (852 posts) -

I think most of the people who are all about Japanese games have gone deep into handhelds.  If there was no big handheld release, I could see it.

#32 Posted by Hizang (8534 posts) -

Wow, I assumed Super Mario Land 3D or some Dragon Ball Z thing would be Number 1 there.

#33 Posted by Icemael (6269 posts) -
@chrismafuchris said:

@Icemael: Except that quality has nothing in the world to do with the business of developing games. Sales are all that matter in this regard.

Now that you've explained that you're just talking about sales and the business side of things, the implication of "Well, what else are they gonna play?" becomes "there aren't enough games being developed in Japan" instead of "all Japanese games suck", and it becomes clear that you are astronomically ignorant and stupid instead of just very ignorant and stupid.
 
@chrismafuchris said:

@Icemael: Except that quality has nothing in the world to do with the business of developing games. Sales are all that matter in this regard.

Moreover, saying that Japanese games have sold well stateside is a good example of completely missing the point, as what is important is not that the game is merely developed stateside, rather that the game is of a style that has traditionally only appealed to a Western audience. For example, if a Visual Novel or Pachinko game was a bestseller over here, you'd think that something was amiss.

It is you who are missing my point. You're proclaiming that one heavily advertised Western first-person shooter selling well in Japan is "evidence enough" that Japanese development is dead. I am pointing out that in the large scheme of things, it means jack shit. (Just as if, say, one visual novel was really heavily advertised in Western territories and ended up selling well, it would in no way, shape or form indicate that Western game development was dying -- only an idiot could make such an inference. And even if many visual novels and pachinko games and whatnot started doing really well in Western territories, that would still not mean that Western gaming was dying, because there is nothing that says that if one genre becomes popular, another must become unpopular as a result.)
#34 Posted by kashif1 (1428 posts) -

@chrismafuchris: There was a zelda and mario game recently, I heard they did quite well.

#35 Posted by chrismafuchris (1088 posts) -

@Icemael: What is your counterpoint? You're just saying "You're ignorant and wrong" without explaining why that is so. Can you think of 5 games this year that cater specifically to a very Japanese market that have sold especially well? The money's just not there.

#36 Posted by Hailinel (22668 posts) -

@chrismafuchris said:

@Icemael: What is your counterpoint? You're just saying "You're ignorant and wrong" without explaining why that is so. Can you think of 5 games this year that cater specifically to a very Japanese market that have sold especially well? The money's just not there.

He's able to wield this argument because you have yet to prove that he's actually wrong.

#37 Posted by chrismafuchris (1088 posts) -

@Hailinel: The same is true for him.

#38 Posted by Guided_By_Tigers (8060 posts) -

@Video_Game_King said:

I didn't know that there were Japanese consolers.

For a weeaboo you don't know a whole lot about the game industry in Japan.... :X

#39 Posted by Hailinel (22668 posts) -

@chrismafuchris said:

@Hailinel: The same is true for him.

The onus is on you. You started this.

#40 Posted by Video_Game_King (34571 posts) -

@Unknown_Pleasures:

I'm not a weeaboo. I don't know enough Japanese to qualify.

#41 Posted by Guided_By_Tigers (8060 posts) -

@Video_Game_King: One must know some Japanese to be a weeaboo?.....I'm pretty sure its just being obsessed with Japanese culture

#42 Posted by kashif1 (1428 posts) -

@chrismafuchris said:

@Icemael: What is your counterpoint? You're just saying "You're ignorant and wrong" without explaining why that is so. Can you think of 5 games this year that cater specifically to a very Japanese market that have sold especially well? The money's just not there.

5 Japanese games that made it over seas this year, tatics ogre, re:coded, persona 2, dark souls, Valkyria chronicles two. They are niche titles and all portable games but they are also all quite good and none of them did too badly. One divisive final fantasy game and one bad one did not kill the game production of an entire country.

#43 Posted by Video_Game_King (34571 posts) -

@Unknown_Pleasures:

If you don't know what any of this means, every other weeaboo will laugh you out of the room.

#44 Posted by MrKlorox (11185 posts) -

Japanese gamers are into decade old gameplay? What a surprise!

#45 Posted by the_OFFICIAL_jAPanese_teaBAG (4307 posts) -

huh....  This is actually pretty crazy....  Goddamn I never thought Modern Warfare was actually big over there

#46 Posted by kashif1 (1428 posts) -

@MrKlorox said:

Japanese gamers are into decade old gameplay? What a surprise!

Are you implying that Modern Warefare three plays exactly the same as call of duty one?

#47 Posted by chrismafuchris (1088 posts) -

@Hailinel: I'm not going to try and explain why this is when individuals who would know infinitely more than I (e.g. Hideo Kojima) have already thoroughly explained it. Without their insight, I could never hope to accurately depict the failings of Japanese development more than they can.

#48 Posted by dhvl2712 (25 posts) -
@TepidShark:

That is genuinely shocking. I remember seeing a couple of articles a month or so ago that said Xbox had failed in Japan and it didn't matter, and that the Japanese don't like games like Call of Duty. I guess this proves otherwise.

Here is the IGN Editorial (http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/118/1189705p1.html)

#49 Posted by Icemael (6269 posts) -
@chrismafuchris said:

@Icemael: What is your counterpoint? You're just saying "You're ignorant and wrong" without explaining why that is so. Can you think of 5 games this year that cater specifically to a very Japanese market that have sold especially well? The money's just not there.

  1. Countless new Japanese games are released all the time. At least three were released in Japan last week, and at least seven the week before that, and so on. "There aren't enough games being developed in Japan" is bullshit you're pulling straight out of your ass.
  2. Five Japan-centric games that have sold well where? In Japan? Because that's easy: Catherine, Hatsune Miku: Project Diva Extend, Gyakuten Kenji 2, One Piece: Gigant Battle 2 and 2nd Super Robot Wars Z Hakai Volume.

@chrismafuchris
 said: 

@Hailinel: I'm not going to try and explain why this is when individuals who would know infinitely more than I (e.g. Hideo Kojima) have already thoroughly explained it. Without their insight, I could never hope to accurately depict the failings of Japanese development more than they can.

What you don't realize is that Hideo Kojima et al. are talking about how Japanese game sales are declining in the West. Japanese games are doing as well as they've always been in Japan, which is the audience most Japanese developers rely on anyway. Hell, earlier this year your precious Kojima said: "Do we really need to succeed worldwide?"
#50 Posted by Commisar123 (1786 posts) -

I guess I'm not that surprised, I think "explosions" translates into any language

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