Playing Catherine with my girlfriend: a horrifying experience

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Posted by AzHP (156 posts) -
My girlfriend and I as Young Phoenix Wright and Dahlia from Phoenix Wright: Trials and Tribulations

So, it's no secret that my girlfriend Lindsey is a huge nerd. She cosplays Persona and Phoenix Wright with me at conventions, watched me play through all of Persona 4 twice, and we sit together and play DS RPGs together on the couch before we go to bed. She even puts up with me running the twitter account @NarukamiYu, which documents the events of Persona 4 (Endurance Run timeline) as they occur throughout 2011. So when we heard that the Persona team was putting together a game about mature themes like love, marriage and betrayal, we were all for playing it together.

However, this is a game you should NOT play with your girlfriend if you don't want her yelling at you the entire fucking time. I'm not going to give any real spoilers aside from minor ones, themes and general mechanics of the game, but if you don't want to know anything about the game, you should probably stop reading (although I haven't finished the game either, I just finished Stage 6 at the time of this writing).

In the beginning of the game, Vincent and his friends talk about commitment and how scary it is, and Lindsey couldn't believe that there were men who thought like that. I bit my tongue and avoided telling her that actually, all men are like that, and they just don't say it to their girlfriend because they don't want her to explode.

Every time Vincent has the option to write a text message to Katherine (his committed girlfriend), I kind of wanted to blow her off and be like "I'm drinking with my friends, leave me alone!" But Lindsey was horrified every time I wanted to say it, and made me change all my responses to "Sorry, can we talk later?" I mean, honestly, Katherine is really controlling and overbearing, I kind of wanted Vincent to just break free (though he can't for...various reasons). And she didn't even want me responding to Catherine's texts. "You can't be nice to both of them!" "Are you TRYING to destroy your relationship?" "What kind of person are you?!" were things that I heard as I played through the game. I mean, I kind of wanted to play the game like I would respond in real life...I don't want to be mean and dismissive of a girl just because it's the "right thing to do," because I don't want to hurt anyone's feelings...maybe I'm just naive, but I felt terrible ignoring Catherine's texts or telling her that I couldn't see her that night.

And then there were the questions that you get asked in between puzzle levels in the game. "Would you ever lie to your significant other if you knew there was no possibility of getting caught?" There was no way I could possibly even deliberate answering that honestly with Lindsey sitting right next to me. Then there was the worst question of all, which we came to last night: "Could you reveal the entire contents of your cell phone inbox to your significant other?" I was like well shit. Either way I answer this, it's ALL bad news. Now I mean, I'm not cheating on her, but I do talk to a good number of girls, including one of my ex-girlfriends, through text messages. There are a few topics that I talk about that I wouldn't exactly be comfortable showing Lindsey...but, if I said "no," then she would ask to see my phone, and if I said "yes" she would probably ask anyway. I picked yes, and of course, she asked me to show her my phone.

FORTUNATELY for me, my phone had been having trouble that weekend so I took it into the store to get it fixed, and they performed a hard reset which cleared all of my text messages. The only things there were texts to a mutual friend of ours asking when she could pick up my Pop'n Music controller, a text from a friend whose computer crashed saying "FUCK THIS COMPUTER," and a text to another friend asking him when he got off work Saturday.

Long story short, playing Catherine with your significant other will probably be a horrifying experience, and an eye opening one as you realize all women in relationships think like Katherine, and all men in committed relationships probably think like Vincent. Do you disagree? Would you play Catherine with your girlfriend? Leave a comment!

#1 Edited by AzHP (156 posts) -
My girlfriend and I as Young Phoenix Wright and Dahlia from Phoenix Wright: Trials and Tribulations

So, it's no secret that my girlfriend Lindsey is a huge nerd. She cosplays Persona and Phoenix Wright with me at conventions, watched me play through all of Persona 4 twice, and we sit together and play DS RPGs together on the couch before we go to bed. She even puts up with me running the twitter account @NarukamiYu, which documents the events of Persona 4 (Endurance Run timeline) as they occur throughout 2011. So when we heard that the Persona team was putting together a game about mature themes like love, marriage and betrayal, we were all for playing it together.

However, this is a game you should NOT play with your girlfriend if you don't want her yelling at you the entire fucking time. I'm not going to give any real spoilers aside from minor ones, themes and general mechanics of the game, but if you don't want to know anything about the game, you should probably stop reading (although I haven't finished the game either, I just finished Stage 6 at the time of this writing).

In the beginning of the game, Vincent and his friends talk about commitment and how scary it is, and Lindsey couldn't believe that there were men who thought like that. I bit my tongue and avoided telling her that actually, all men are like that, and they just don't say it to their girlfriend because they don't want her to explode.

Every time Vincent has the option to write a text message to Katherine (his committed girlfriend), I kind of wanted to blow her off and be like "I'm drinking with my friends, leave me alone!" But Lindsey was horrified every time I wanted to say it, and made me change all my responses to "Sorry, can we talk later?" I mean, honestly, Katherine is really controlling and overbearing, I kind of wanted Vincent to just break free (though he can't for...various reasons). And she didn't even want me responding to Catherine's texts. "You can't be nice to both of them!" "Are you TRYING to destroy your relationship?" "What kind of person are you?!" were things that I heard as I played through the game. I mean, I kind of wanted to play the game like I would respond in real life...I don't want to be mean and dismissive of a girl just because it's the "right thing to do," because I don't want to hurt anyone's feelings...maybe I'm just naive, but I felt terrible ignoring Catherine's texts or telling her that I couldn't see her that night.

And then there were the questions that you get asked in between puzzle levels in the game. "Would you ever lie to your significant other if you knew there was no possibility of getting caught?" There was no way I could possibly even deliberate answering that honestly with Lindsey sitting right next to me. Then there was the worst question of all, which we came to last night: "Could you reveal the entire contents of your cell phone inbox to your significant other?" I was like well shit. Either way I answer this, it's ALL bad news. Now I mean, I'm not cheating on her, but I do talk to a good number of girls, including one of my ex-girlfriends, through text messages. There are a few topics that I talk about that I wouldn't exactly be comfortable showing Lindsey...but, if I said "no," then she would ask to see my phone, and if I said "yes" she would probably ask anyway. I picked yes, and of course, she asked me to show her my phone.

FORTUNATELY for me, my phone had been having trouble that weekend so I took it into the store to get it fixed, and they performed a hard reset which cleared all of my text messages. The only things there were texts to a mutual friend of ours asking when she could pick up my Pop'n Music controller, a text from a friend whose computer crashed saying "FUCK THIS COMPUTER," and a text to another friend asking him when he got off work Saturday.

Long story short, playing Catherine with your significant other will probably be a horrifying experience, and an eye opening one as you realize all women in relationships think like Katherine, and all men in committed relationships probably think like Vincent. Do you disagree? Would you play Catherine with your girlfriend? Leave a comment!

#2 Edited by RE_Player1 (7558 posts) -

I play Catherine on a 50 inch Sony TV on the main floor of my house. People are constantly walking through and seeing it. Parents, my brother, extended family, friends of both sexes. I don't give a shit and they don't either, some have actually stopped and watched for a bit because they liked the tone and style of the game. It seems like your girlfriend doesn't understand that the game is fiction and even you playing it a certain way, like blowing off Katherine, is just the way you are playing. It doesn't reflect what kind of person you are. I hope she was displaying these feelings in a joking manner and not super serious.

*EDIT: If I still had a girlfriend and she was interested in the game I would play it in front of her or with her.

#3 Edited by wolf_blitzer85 (5254 posts) -

We've been having a lot of fun together with the game. Thing is she knows it's a video game and wants to play it to win. She conditioned herself quite nicely when she took the reigns from me for our first play through of P4 and applied her new found (well mostly accredited to the ER) knowledge to her own second play through . She's learned that things like emotion only hinder you.

Seriously watch Brad play STO before Ryan jumped in. Christ that was painful.

I really want to know what it's like playing the game for dudes that actually secretly cheated on their girlfriends in real life at some point. Some of those in game situations have gotta be stressful as hell.

#4 Posted by Maluvin (265 posts) -

Be afraid.

#5 Posted by Bumpton (444 posts) -
@RE_Player92 said:

*EDIT: If I still had a girlfriend and she was interested in the game I would play it in front of her or with her.


Glad you edited that because I think that's more of the point. Personally, I think that sounds horribly awkward, but it sounds like your gf was overreacting more than a little bit. Asking to see your phone because of a damn videogame? Respecting your significant other's privacy is for assholes!
 
That's cool that you have a gf that you enjoy gaming with, but stuff like this also makes me super glad mine has no interest in it.
#6 Posted by JeanLuc (3577 posts) -

Great read and wow that's scary. 
Really though, I think it depends on the girl. Like my friend's girlfriend is like yours and would probably act similarly. My girlfriend however is much more understanding of stuff like that and would more likely go with the guy oriented responses.

#7 Posted by mutha3 (4985 posts) -

 In the beginning of the game, Vincent and his friends talk about commitment and how scary it is, and Lindsey couldn't believe that there were men who thought like that. I bit my tongue and avoided telling her that actually, all men are like that, and they just don't say it to their girlfriend because they don't want her to explode.



It seems you and your girlfriend have the same problem in stereotyping men, my friend.
 
 
Also, demanding to see your phone's inbox?
 
 
.....uhhhhhhhhh
 
 
Maybe you need to have a talk with your girlfriend.
#8 Posted by Bwast (1342 posts) -

Lindsey is her name? If you give each letter a numerical value(a=1 etc), her name equals 88. 88/4=22. Since it's her first name, let's add 1. 22+1=23!!!!! 
 
You know what you have to do.

#9 Posted by AzHP (156 posts) -

@mutha3 said:

In the beginning of the game, Vincent and his friends talk about commitment and how scary it is, and Lindsey couldn't believe that there were men who thought like that. I bit my tongue and avoided telling her that actually, all men are like that, and they just don't say it to their girlfriend because they don't want her to explode.

It seems you and your girlfriend have the same problem in stereotyping men, my friend. Also, demanding to see your phone's inbox? .....uhhhhhhhhh Maybe you need to have a talk with your girlfriend.

Alright, sure, maybe not ALL men are like that, but at the time I felt like that being a man and feeling like I related to the characters in the game gave my opinion a little more authority than her on the matter. =P

And I mean, normally we don't pry into each others' business, but I guess she was feeling kind of emotional at the time since we were playing a video game about a cheating man, after all...it's enough to make a girl want to look, I guess?

#10 Edited by AzHP (156 posts) -

@Bwast said:

Lindsey is her name? If you give each letter a numerical value(a=1 etc), her name equals 88. 88/4=22. Since it's her first name, let's add 1. 22+1=23!!!!! You know what you have to do.

I know this is completely unintentional, but you basically computed my birthday...1988/4/23. Scary!!!

#11 Posted by SixtyXCelph (211 posts) -

No offense to your lady, but, she was overreacting quite a bit.  And as for my most recent ex, as I'm between partners right now, I highly doubt she would have cared.  Hell, she was more masculine than I was a lot of the time.  And I agree, Katherine was overbearing, but, Catherine was also insane... I kind o' wanted to rebuff both until a specific point with Katherine where it kind o' because a "do the right thing" situation.  Vague, but trying to keep it spoiler-free.  Anyone who's played it knows what part I mean.

#12 Posted by Yanngc33 (4496 posts) -

Hell of a social experiment. I guess it must be like playing DNF with your gf

#13 Posted by Subjugation (4719 posts) -

You should have known it would have been like this before you even began. At least that outcome seemed extremely obvious to me.

#14 Posted by Nux (2325 posts) -

Not haveing a girlfriend I don't have this problem. But it would depend on the type of game your playing. Any game where it's you VS her is most likely not a good idea.

#15 Posted by ThunderSlash (1652 posts) -
@Maluvin said:
Be afraid.
 
This. She might be reading this blog AT THIS VERY MOMENT!
#16 Posted by StrainedEyes (1323 posts) -

Here's hoping she also has an account here and stumbles on this thread.

#17 Posted by the_OFFICIAL_jAPanese_teaBAG (4308 posts) -

i dont think i would mind because i doubt she would take it too serious...  shes not really into video games.  and if i had to show my girl my phone i would just distract her with the nyan cat app.  haha...  *sigh*...

#18 Posted by The_Nubster (2090 posts) -

My girlfriend and I have had a serious talk about personal space before. She used to always snatch my phone out of my hands when I got a text, and though it was never anything incriminating, it was a serious violation of my personal space. I was always on edge when I got a text or a phone call, because I knew she'd be asking me who I was talking to; I felt as if I had no space to myself when she was around. Ever since we sat down and discussed why this wasn't acceptable and how to make it better, I feel much more at ease. She'll watch me play Mass Effect and romance up aliens and stuff without being bothered by it, and I'll ask her to answer texts and phone calls for me if I'm not near the phone. If you feel scared to answer a question in a videogame because you're afraid your girlfriend's going to project that onto you, maybe you should talk about privacy and boundaries. Demanding to see your phone seems a bit over the line, whether or not you've got sensitive stuff on it.

#19 Posted by Castiel (2562 posts) -

You should ask to see her cellphone and all the text messages and numbers she have if she is going to act that way.

#20 Posted by TheDudeOfGaming (6078 posts) -

On a more positive note, if she's that pissed off, it only means she cares dude. I mean fuck, if i had a girl that would be willing to sit through and watch me play an entire game, well, that would be awesome.
In fact you know what, you need to go and apologize to her, than pressure her into marrying you. 

#21 Edited by Juno500 (392 posts) -

#22 Posted by Andyman067 (26 posts) -

The moral of the story is not "don't play Catherine in front of your girlfriend", it's "don't get involved with a controlling and imbalanced woman".

#23 Posted by LiK (920 posts) -

She sounds like a keeper. Put a ring on it. ;)

#24 Posted by Thoseposers (782 posts) -

I haven't gotten to play Catherine with my girlfriend yet but we plan to when the price drops. I guess i'm just one of those different kinds of guys where i'm really not afraid of being in a committed relationship, plus i wouldn't care if she read my cell phone inbox cause i mostly only text her anyways.

I'm not gonna say you guys need to work things though because every relationship is different ya know. Would you say the story is really engrossing? Cause that's really what i'm concerned about with that game.

#25 Posted by EveretteScott (1452 posts) -
@AzHP said:
and an eye opening one as you realize all women in relationships think like Katherine, and all men in committed relationships probably think like Vincent. 
 
Wow, really. That's what you think?
How ignorant, cliche and generalized.
#26 Posted by AzHP (156 posts) -

@Thoseposers said:

I haven't gotten to play Catherine with my girlfriend yet but we plan to when the price drops. I guess i'm just one of those different kinds of guys where i'm really not afraid of being in a committed relationship, plus i wouldn't care if she read my cell phone inbox cause i mostly only text her anyways.

I'm not gonna say you guys need to work things though because every relationship is different ya know. Would you say the story is really engrossing? Cause that's really what i'm concerned about with that game.

This blog post is really misrepresenting my girlfriend as a whole, she honestly lets me do whatever I want when I'm with my friends and doesn't mind when I come home piss drunk after blacking out in a hotel room full of women, or impulsively spend hundreds of dollars on anime figures or oversized arcade replica Japanese music game controllers. She trusts me wholly and I trust her. I guess her insecurities get the best of her when playing a game specifically about a man cheating on his committed relationship, and she feels like I'm projecting my feelings about our relationship into the choices I make in the game (not necessarily untrue, but I wouldn't act on my feelings).

And yes, the story is pretty engrossing. It's the closest to a video game equivalent of a page turner I've played in quite some time. Lindsey and I stayed up until 4AM the last two days going through it. The puzzles are pretty tough and do hamper enjoyment of the game somewhat, since sometimes you just want to find out what's going to happen in the story and don't give a damn about block puzzles. Don't get me wrong, I love the puzzles and the challenge, but sometimes I just wish I could skip it and come back later to find out what happens in the main story.

#27 Posted by Noct (306 posts) -

Someone else already jokingly mentioned this, but I just have to outright ask... You were afraid of her seeing your phone because she might see something incriminating... and then you posted a thread completely confirming that her fears were totally warranted? I know you said you weren't cheating, but in my experience, if something you're doing has to be hidden from your signifigant other, or you have to lie about it... then it's probably not somethign you should be doing...

And to the people that are saying she’s a control freak or whatever... Umm, clearly she HAS a reason to be suspicious!

I'm not too keen on how quickly my wife will ask me who'se calling me when my phone rings, but the whole reason it bothers me is because I have nothing to hide... if I DID have something to hide, it wouldn't make her a controlling bitch, it would make her an intuitive girl who senses that something is off...

Don't get me wrong, I think it's a little nuts that she is equating your selections in the game to real life and trying to read something into it, but I don't think this buisness of her wanting to see your phone is strange at all... If I picked up my wife's phone and she freaked out or didn't want me to look at it, I would be more then a little concerned...

#28 Posted by metalsnakezero (2290 posts) -

Well at least you learned something from this little experience and goes to show you that Catherine does go pretty deep with the whole relationship.

#29 Posted by Animasta (14667 posts) -

you really should have asked if you could see her phone

#30 Posted by NTM (7324 posts) -

No offense (OK, maybe a little), but your girlfriend looks like a psycho. :)

#31 Posted by ViciousReiven (821 posts) -

So basically you shouldn't play this with your GF because you're a dick, yeah great work there dude, I wouldn't even choose those options without a GF watching over me.

#32 Edited by npeterson08 (502 posts) -

Very interesting read!
 
@the_OFFICIAL_jAPanese_teaBAG said:

i dont think i would mind because i doubt she would take it too serious...  shes not really into video games.  and if i had to show my girl my phone i would just distract her with the nyan cat app.  haha...  *sigh*...

Wait... There's a nyan cat app?!
#33 Posted by AzHP (156 posts) -
#34 Posted by Piglet (128 posts) -

@Noct said:

Someone else already jokingly mentioned this, but I just have to outright ask... You were afraid of her seeing your phone because she might see something incriminating... and then you posted a thread completely confirming that her fears were totally warranted? I know you said you weren't cheating, but in my experience, if something you're doing has to be hidden from your signifigant other, or you have to lie about it... then it's probably not somethign you should be doing...

And to the people that are saying she’s a control freak or whatever... Umm, clearly she HAS a reason to be suspicious!

I'm not too keen on how quickly my wife will ask me who'se calling me when my phone rings, but the whole reason it bothers me is because I have nothing to hide... if I DID have something to hide, it wouldn't make her a controlling bitch, it would make her an intuitive girl who senses that something is off...

Don't get me wrong, I think it's a little nuts that she is equating your selections in the game to real life and trying to read something into it, but I don't think this buisness of her wanting to see your phone is strange at all... If I picked up my wife's phone and she freaked out or didn't want me to look at it, I would be more then a little concerned...

So her being intuitive or not is contextual? In your statement, she's doing the exact same thing (asking who's calling) regardless, but if you were hiding something she then becomes intuitive?

#35 Posted by the_OFFICIAL_jAPanese_teaBAG (4308 posts) -
@npeterson08 said:
Very interesting read!
 
@the_OFFICIAL_jAPanese_teaBAG said:

i dont think i would mind because i doubt she would take it too serious...  shes not really into video games.  and if i had to show my girl my phone i would just distract her with the nyan cat app.  haha...  *sigh*...

Wait... There's a nyan cat app?!
hell yeah!  and all you do is fly around in space.  you can move around the cat and theres a timer
#36 Posted by Catolf (2653 posts) -

well that was fun to read lol

#37 Posted by Niceguydan8 (3 posts) -

My girlfriend watched me play through day 5-the end game and she watched me play a vincent that ended up staying with Katherine. Immediately after I finished the game she said "I wonder what would happen if you were a dick to Katherine and went for Catherine!" and actually asked me to start over so she can see

#38 Posted by papercut (3467 posts) -

I'm reading this blog post about playing a game with a girlfriend with my girlfriend. HOW BOUT THAT.

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH.

#39 Edited by Romination (2777 posts) -

Your girlfriend doesn't seem to understand video games OR people. 
 
Furthermore, I'd only get Catherine if I could guarantee my girlfriend would watch it with me. It would be fun to discuss things with her and see if we both choose a different woman or something. It would be fun.

#40 Posted by nnotdead (86 posts) -

man up son.

#41 Edited by RaikohBlade (593 posts) -
@AzHP: All men are afraid of commitment? What a sad thing to say. I welcome commitment with open arms, for it is a powerful thing to be relied upon by another. Not only that, true happiness can never be achieved without commitment. This generation is indeed disappointing to look upon. 
#42 Posted by cheddartyme (133 posts) -

This blog is awesome. I love how delightfully nerdy your relationship is. I laughed at the title, its an aspect of the game that I never thought about. The the image of you nervously playing the game is funny. thanks for writing it.

#43 Posted by SomeDeliCook (2274 posts) -

Look at the cover art for the game. Now tell me, would this be a game to play with a girlfriend? Especially if it seems you guys have some problems in the first place?

#44 Edited by Gerhabio (1977 posts) -

Don't generalize it always ends badly. That said, seems like you might not in THE relationship yet as you keep potentially hurtful info from your partner. I understand there is also there's personal space though so you should talk to her about the people you talk to and explain to her they don't mean to you what she does. If they do then, again, maybe your not as committed to this relationship, just like Vincent.

@The_Nubster said:

My girlfriend and I have had a serious talk about personal space before. She used to always snatch my phone out of my hands when I got a text, and though it was never anything incriminating, it was a serious violation of my personal space. I was always on edge when I got a text or a phone call, because I knew she'd be asking me who I was talking to; I felt as if I had no space to myself when she was around. Ever since we sat down and discussed why this wasn't acceptable and how to make it better, I feel much more at ease. She'll watch me play Mass Effect and romance up aliens and stuff without being bothered by it, and I'll ask her to answer texts and phone calls for me if I'm not near the phone. If you feel scared to answer a question in a videogame because you're afraid your girlfriend's going to project that onto you, maybe you should talk about privacy and boundaries. Demanding to see your phone seems a bit over the line, whether or not you've got sensitive stuff on it.

I wouldn't play Catherine with my girlfriend because of all the Anime-style objectification going on. My gf is a hardcore feminist (I am a feminist too, although I'm a bit more patient) who doesn't stand for female characters being presented as anything less than complete human beings with agency and a self outside their sexuality. From what I heard from Jeff's review the characters are unfortunately shallow... and also Japan: I'd probably would be palming my face while my gf frowns as the camera constantly pans over Catherine's body.

#45 Posted by BombKareshi (996 posts) -
@AzHP said:
And she didn't even want me responding to Catherine's texts. "You can't be nice to both of them!" "Are you TRYING to destroy your relationship?" "What kind of person are you?!" were things that I heard as I played through the game.
Maybe I'm a masochist, but I actually think that's an experience I'd enjoy. You almost make me want to play the game with my girlfriend, lol. Maybe because I know that I'm nothing like this Vincent-dude and I don't have anything to hide, it would actually give me an opportunity to shine.
#46 Posted by Gamer_152 (14066 posts) -

Great post, it's interesting what video games can reveal about people. It sounds like you and your girlfriend have some genuinely conflicting thoughts and opinions about relationships, but I think you're generalising too much about how women and men in committed relationships feel.

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#47 Posted by Noct (306 posts) -
@Piglet said:


                   

@Noct said:

Someone else already jokingly mentioned this, but I just have to
outright ask... You were afraid of her seeing your phone because she might see something
incriminating... and then you posted a thread completely confirming that her
fears were totally warranted? I know you said you weren't cheating, but in my experience, if something you're doing has to be hidden from your signifigant other, or you have to lie about it... then it's probably not somethign you should be doing...

And to the people that are saying she’s a control freak or whatever... Umm,
clearly she HAS a reason to be suspicious!

I'm not too keen on how quickly my wife will ask me who'se calling me when my
phone rings, but the whole reason it bothers me is because I have nothing to
hide... if I DID have something to hide, it wouldn't make her a controlling
bitch, it would make her an intuitive girl who senses that something is off...

Don't get me wrong, I think it's a little nuts that she is equating your selections in the game to real life and trying to read something into it, but I don't think this buisness of her wanting to see your phone is strange at all... If I picked up my wife's phone and she freaked out or didn't want me to look at it, I would be more then a little concerned...

So her being intuitive or not is contextual? In your statement, she's doing the exact same thing (asking who's calling) regardless, but if you were hiding something she then becomes intuitive?



                   

               

Uh, no, that's a pretty big leap to take from what I said... I'm saying that you can't call a girl a crazy control freak when she HAS reason to be suspicious... Then she's not crazy, she knows something is going on. It's not contexttual, because in this scenario, if you weren't doing anything wrong, she wouldn't be suspicious. It doesn't make her crazy, it makes her intuitive.  
 
If you weren't doing anything wrong at all and she was being a jealous freak, then you'd know she was just a nut. 
 
My entire point was that it amuses me that people are calling this girl psyhco, when she clearly has reason to be susicious in the first place...
#48 Posted by SixtyXCelph (211 posts) -
@Noct: But there's no way of knowing that she knows she's validated in her suspicions.  What if she really hasn't been given a reason to be suspicious, and just happens to coincidentally be a jealous freak anyway?  And either way, we don't know what he texts that he doesn't want her to see, just that it's something he knows she wouldn't approve of, or maybe even just something somewhat embarrassing that he doesn't want her to see.  Granted those same arguments could be used for why it's unfair to call her a crazy control freak, haha.  Not enough information for a clear judgment.
#49 Posted by jkuc316 (981 posts) -
Would you really judge a person based on moral decisions he makes in a video game?!
 
I think it's kinda silly, sometimes I just make decisions for fun, and replay value (1 save for good deeds, 1 save for bad deeds)
#50 Posted by Duncs (43 posts) -
@Noct said:

Someone else already jokingly mentioned this, but I just have to outright ask... You were afraid of her seeing your phone because she might see something incriminating... and then you posted a thread completely confirming that her fears were totally warranted? I know you said you weren't cheating, but in my experience, if something you're doing has to be hidden from your signifigant other, or you have to lie about it... then it's probably not somethign you should be doing...

And to the people that are saying she’s a control freak or whatever... Umm, clearly she HAS a reason to be suspicious!

I'm not too keen on how quickly my wife will ask me who'se calling me when my phone rings, but the whole reason it bothers me is because I have nothing to hide... if I DID have something to hide, it wouldn't make her a controlling bitch, it would make her an intuitive girl who senses that something is off...

Don't get me wrong, I think it's a little nuts that she is equating your selections in the game to real life and trying to read something into it, but I don't think this buisness of her wanting to see your phone is strange at all... If I picked up my wife's phone and she freaked out or didn't want me to look at it, I would be more then a little concerned...

I've gotta disagree on this. His fear of her seeing something on his phone *might* indicate that he's doing something wrong, or it *might* indicate that she's the kind of girl who will blow up over something inconsequential. I'm not saying all women are like this at all, but I certainly know some who are. One of my best friends' girlfriend is incredibly OTT about this kind of thing even though he is doing literally nothing wrong. If he gets a text from a female friend of his *at all*, she flips out about it. Even if it's (as it always is) something entirely innocuous. He knows this, and so is justly terrified of her reading his messages, because of her reactions. It could be either way around, it's not certainly either the case that she's overbearing or he's cheating behind her back. 
 
Also, totally agree with Piglet - she's looking at your phone either way, which means that looking at you phone is *not* based on intuition. That claim would only be valid if she only looked at your phone if/when you did something wrong. Her looking in all cases is her being suspicious/nosy regardless of any facts.

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