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    Deadly Premonition

    Game » consists of 11 releases. Released Feb 23, 2010

    An open-world action-adventure game following an eccentric FBI agent as he investigates a series of bizarre murders in the small rural town of Greenvale.

    EDGE Gives Deadly Premonition a 7

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    #1  Edited By sweep  Moderator

    EDGE, a magazine with it's head so far up it's ass it can see out of it's own belly button, has decided that Deadly Premonition is not the janky monstrosity that we all know it is, and has given the game 7 bananas out of whatever the fuck bullshit scoring context they use. The score isn't really the most pressing concern, however, rather the language they use to justify it. Here are some choice quotes: 

    "[Deadly Premonition is] A thriller with subversive style

    "The beauty of Deadly Premonition is that it's a straightforward whodunnit viewed through the cracked prism of an unreliable narrator, conjuring an atmosphere of suspicion and confusion throughout."

    "There's a distinct sense that all the ideas thrown at Deadly Premonition were deliberately picked rather than scrambled together.

    "...it [the driving] feels consciously designed rather than accidentally banal."

    "None of it would work without accomplished voice acting, and Deadly Premonition is a triumph of both timing and delivery.


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    To be fair, the rest of the article laboriously explains how "The mechanics are flimsy", "lack of polish" and "clunky combat" ruin the game. But then the article culminates with: 

      "Inevitable points of comparison will be this years double-whammy of Heavy Rain and Alan Wake, titles with a similarly strong emphasis on storytelling. The difference is that Deadly Premonition has more ideas, and ambition, than both. Though far less polished, it's just as engrossing, too." 


     

    Inevitable?

     Really

     

    Similarly strong?

     Really?

     

    More ideas, and ambition?

     Really

     

    Far less polished?

     ...fair enough. 

     
     
     
    Thoughts?
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    #2  Edited By HaltIamReptar

    It's taking physical restraint not to respond to you with a meme.

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    #3  Edited By sweep  Moderator
    @HaltIamReptar: Which one, out of interest?
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    #4  Edited By ReyGitano

    There's a sense... it feels like... So this entire review is based on assumptions that they could have made it better a better game, but decided against it? 
    Genius.

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    #5  Edited By alistercat

    I think what they mean is that Deadly Premonition is trying to accomplish a hell of a lot more than they were, and as a crazy open world murder mystery I have to agree. The scope of the ideas seems quite big but they are all executed in a very poor way that is detrimental to each individual part of the game. Alan Wake and Heavy rain are very direct and linear, but amazing in what they do. As for the similarly strong, what's the issue there? Deadly Premonition has it's best moments in it's story and the telling of that story. The quality of that isn't mentioned, it says 'similarly strong emphasis', which deadly premonition does do. You aren't playing that game for it's industry leading gameplay systems.

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    #6  Edited By Milkman

    Probably higher than I would rate it.

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    #7  Edited By HaltIamReptar
    @Sweep said:

    " @HaltIamReptar: Which one, out of interest? "

    I have no intent of actually doing it, but your tone sets you up for it fairly easily.
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    #8  Edited By Grissefar
    @HaltIamReptar said:
    " It's taking physical restraint not to respond to you with a meme. "
    7. That's a good score. Right, Zack?
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    #9  Edited By FancySoapsMan

    I think that's a pretty good score for it honestly. The gameplay sucks, but it was still entertaining from start to finish.
     
    I think it's bullshit that the terrible design flaws were done on purpose though.

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    #10  Edited By Legend

    Sounds about right.

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    #11  Edited By sweep  Moderator
    @HaltIamReptar: No, go ahead. I'm intrigued :D
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    #12  Edited By FCKSNAP

    Jeff said on formspring that he would have given it a 3 out of 5, so this is really just par for the course.

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    #13  Edited By HaltIamReptar
    @Sweep said:
    " @HaltIamReptar: No, go ahead. I'm intrigued :D "
    Well, alright then.
     
    u mad, bro?
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    #14  Edited By Lukeweizer
    FUCK PEOPLE AND THEIR OPINIONS! I'M ALWAYS RIGHT!
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    #15  Edited By Ghostiet

    DP has a much better plot than Heavy Rain, so I don't see why you are "reallying".

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    #16  Edited By jorbear
    @Lukeweizer: /thread
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    #17  Edited By Romination

    You know what? 
    I hated this game for a long time. A very, very long time. It looked like absolute garbage, played even worse at times, and seemed to have too much ambition (plus, made by SWERY 65? Really? Pretentious name is pretentious!). 
    But watching the quick look, I can see where they're coming from. It's a case of the story and characters being so damn good that it just doesn't matter. It overcomes its downfalls with the parts that games don't tend to do as well and that's weirdly impressive.

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    #18  Edited By Red12b

    to be fair, Deadly Premonition is more of a game that Heavy Rain, and at the end of it, I was more involved with that game than with Heavy Rain,  
     
    Heavy Rain was a major disappointment to me.   
     
    So Yeah, if you look at the game with a point of view to look past it's gameplay flaws, I would give it a 7 as well.
     
    But I would give it a five if gameplay had to be addressed in the score, But, I don't care about scores so, yeah... 

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    #19  Edited By mutha3
    @Sweep: Uh, why are you quoting the passage about VA as if its wrong? even the reviews that trash DP mentions its solid voice work.
     
    Also, DP had a fairly interesting story. Its certainly better then your average videogame(and definitely better then Heavy Rain).
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    #20  Edited By sweep  Moderator
    @HaltIamReptar: It's an interesting question. Am I mad? It's certainly possible. 
     
    I'm less indignant at the fact that they gave the game a 7 than I am about the wording they used to describe it. Let's not fuck about, Deadly Premonition is no masterpiece. But I should have realized that everyone enjoyed the Quick Looks so much they would automatically defend the game despite it's obvious flaws. 
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    #21  Edited By benjaebe

    It seems like a fair score. I can see the comparison between Alan Wake and Deadly Premonition only because they're both heavily influenced by Twin Peaks and similar from a gameplay perspective - I've never understood comparing either of them to Heavy Rain, which is a really hard game to compare to others (except maybe Fahrenheit, since it's practically the same thing.)

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    #22  Edited By mutha3
    @Sweep said:
     But I should have realized that everyone enjoyed the Quick Looks so much they would automatically defend the game despite it's obvious flaws.  "
    What a self-serving realization.
     
    Bull. ER2 was crap.
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    #23  Edited By sweep  Moderator
    @mutha3: Ha, I never said it's wrong, I just think it's fucking questionable. To be fair I have always had ridiculously high expectations of voice acting in games and i'm usually disappointed. Maybe it's because i'm British and most american voice actors sound weird to me :S
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    #24  Edited By mutha3
    @Sweep said:

    " @mutha3: Ha, I never said it's wrong, I just think it's fucking questionable. To be fair I have always had ridiculously high expectations of voice acting in games and i'm usually disappointed. Maybe it's because i'm British and most american voice actors sound weird to me :S "

    Hm. I may not be British(or American for that matter!) but I thought the VA work was pretty damn excellent. They nailed York. I cannot imagine him in any other voice.
     
    It was also nice to not hear Yuri Lowenthall and Nolan North once in a while.
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    #25  Edited By sweep  Moderator

    I'm pretty amazed at how many people seemed to really enjoy this game. We were all playing the same game, right? Deadly Premonition? The one with the women zombies who crawl down the walls at you for ages and take dozens of shots to kill? The one with the stunningly awkward QTE chase sequences? That game with the worst texturing I have ever seen in an Xbox 360 game? People liked that? 
     
    Man, i'm out of touch :S

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    #26  Edited By FourWude

    Subversive crime mystery videogames with schizophrenic main protagonists and plot twists are like a religion and Deadly Premonition is THE SHIT.

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    #27  Edited By Yummylee

    ...God I'm so excited for this game come the 29th!

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    #28  Edited By beargirl1

    generous score. the game is awful. 

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    #29  Edited By Video_Game_King

    We all know that Edge sucks, what else is not new at all?

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    #30  Edited By natetodamax
    @AjayRaz said:
    " generous score. the game is awful.  "
    Was gonna say that.
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    #31  Edited By Yummylee
    @AjayRaz said:
    " generous score. the game is awful.  "
    You go'te hell, you go'ta hell and yu diiie!
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    #32  Edited By Red12b

    Sweep, The gameplay is shit, I don't think anyone can dispute that,  
      
    But dude, it was made for peanuts, and is $20 and for $20 you get a lot of good stuff, I only watched a bit of the ER, I played the game with a mates Xbox. 

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    #33  Edited By Ghostiet
    @Sweep said:

    " I'm pretty amazed at how many people seemed to really enjoy this game. We were all playing the same game, right? Deadly Premonition? The one with the women zombies who crawl down the walls at you for ages and take dozens of shots to kill? The one with the stunningly awkward QTE chase sequences? That game with the worst texturing I have ever seen in an Xbox 360 game? People liked that?  Man, i'm out of touch :S "

    I'm amazed that people enjoyed Heavy Rain, a glorified QTE sequence that had at least 4 major plot holes that kill the whole narrative. Something DP, despite its gameplay awfulness, avoids and manages to pull off a great story. From all the game's released this year so far, only Red Dead Redemption and Sam & Max: The Devil's Playhouse managed to make such an impact with the ending.
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    #34  Edited By FourWude
    @AjayRaz said:
    " generous score. the game is awful.  "

    Hold thy tongue, lest it be held for you.

    Also, are you Indian??

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    #35  Edited By mutha3
    @Sweep said:
    " I'm pretty amazed at how many people seemed to really enjoy this game. We were all playing the same game, right? Deadly Premonition? The one with the women zombies who crawl down the walls at you for ages and take dozens of shots to kill? The one with the stunningly awkward QTE chase sequences? That game with the worst texturing I have ever seen in an Xbox 360 game? People liked that?  Man, i'm out of touch :S "
    Personally speaking, I realize the game is pretty terrible from a technical perspective.
     
    Though I maintain its at least a mediocre shooter. The bolded is entirely Brad and Vinny's fault, if your referencing the ER.
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    #36  Edited By beargirl1
    @Abyssfull: as long as i don't have to play Deadly Premonition, i'm cool with that :P  
     
    @FourWude: no. 
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    #37  Edited By ShadowVirus

    Deadly Premonition PAL
    Deadly Premonition PAL
    10/10 from Destructoid.
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    #38  Edited By Glak

    I feel a 7 is justifiable, nothing more 
    The game had a lot of charm to it, and the music was pretty damn good 
    I also like the characters and how over the top they were and the story was decent 
    However the gameplay was pretty crap and the game was janky, therefore nothing above a 7 is reasonable

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    #39  Edited By Yummylee
    @AjayRaz:  
    You'll be in hell, so you won't be ''cool'' with that at all!!!!!.....Yu Diieee!
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    #40  Edited By Fallen189

    Trying to advocate a kind of discussion like this on GB, the site where "Endurance runs" live is a brave, yet foolhardy attempt. Good luck, brother. You're in bat country

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    #41  Edited By Yummylee
    @ShadowVirus said:
    "
    Deadly Premonition PAL
    Deadly Premonition PAL
    10/10 from Destructoid. "
    Destructoid totally soils the game cover with that joke score. @.@
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    #42  Edited By IkariNoTekken
    @ShadowVirus:  
     
    Ha ha, its fantastic that we in the UK get the  Destructoid score on the cover. 
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    #43  Edited By Gizmo
    @Abyssfull:  
     
    When I saw this box art, I thought it was shopped. 
     
    I am fucking STUNNED that they have gone with using the Destructoid review.
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    #44  Edited By marrec
    @FancySoapsMan said:
    " I think that's a pretty good score for it honestly. The gameplay sucks, but it was still entertaining from start to finish.  I think it's bullshit that the terrible design flaws were done on purpose though. "
    From start to finish huh?  
     
    Cause the driving was just as entertaining as the rest of the game.
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    #45  Edited By mutha3
    @Fallen189 said:
    " Trying to advocate a kind of discussion like this on GB, the site where "Endurance runs" live is a brave, yet foolhardy attempt. Good luck, brother. You're in bat country "
    No, the ER mouthbreathers left these boards once the ER ended.
     
    Cut it out with the bullshit posturing. DP has fans, deal with it.
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    #46  Edited By Driadon

    Meh. I agree that the story-telling is a notch above what a lot of games put in, and I'd almost use the same language they did to describe it. Almost. That said, I'd also point very strongly at the very broken game the spectacular narrative lays on.

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    #47  Edited By xyzygy

    EDGE giving a 7 is a big thing. They're really, really nitpicky and I'm surprised it didn't get like, a 2.

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    #48  Edited By eroticfishcake

    Oh man even the scores given to this game are pretty weird. As if the game itself wasn't such a clusterfuck. On the other hand I've stopped caring for review scores anyway since it's the actual review itself is what matters. But this is still confusing me a great deal. Ah whatever, I'll admit that it's interesting in a few places and I certainly won't deny the many faults that this game has but having said that I'm pretty interested in playing the game myself just to see what's it like. 
     
    Also, that Destructoid score on the cover? Humorous but also very misleading to anyone who doesn't know what Destructoid is.

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    #49  Edited By adam_grif

     
    Deadly Premonition is an awesome game. But I wouldn't expect everybody to comprehend it's brilliance.
     
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    #50  Edited By Godot
    @Sweep said:
    " EDGE, a magazine with it's head so far up it's ass it can see out of it's own belly button, has decided that Deadly Premonition is not the janky monstrosity that we all know it is, and has given the game 7 bananas out of whatever the fuck bullshit scoring context they use.
    Oh, you mean where 5 actually means average, rather than 7 or 8? It's different, s'all. I've never understood the hate Edge gets, the UK has plenty shittier games magazines.

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