"I don't really see what's so wrong about this. Eidos wants to make more money. Is that so wrong? Just let them go on with their business. It's not like your purchase depends on Metacritic scores, right?"

Eidos yanks Cocker.

I just want to know what the boob physics score is!

AHAHAHAHA

maybe this may cause another awesome video game web site to be created as well?

hil-larious

WTF?

Eidos sucks in this respect and everyone knows that. Look at what happened to Jeff with his Kane & Lynch review. And guess what....Eidos is trying the same shit AGAIN! For all you people who say that Eidos is just trying to be profitable, maybe you should introduce a few words into your vocabulary like say, moral, ethical, manipulative, deceipt, you get the idea. I'm sure no one would like to read a review about a game that gets high scores and then go and give your hard-earned money only to find out that the game is C-R-A-P. And to top it all off, it was the actual publisher who "convinced" the professional reviewers to score it that way.

wow that's totally gay, even gayer than n'sync.

I, dunno, I'd be hard pressed to say I'm surprised at this sort of carry on. PR companies can't get away with telling reviews to postpone there bad reviews and we can see that in this case they haven't. But hell if they can I don't think it would make a huge impact. As it turns out I've heard from PC Gamer magazine that this is the best Tomb Raider they've played. So for me it's more the direct recommendation rather then the lack of bad reviews that gets me interested in a game. If a game is truly bad then there clearly wouldn't be so many good reviews on metacritic, it's not as if it's hard to see if a game is worth $60 or not. Also I think Guy Cocker is a great reviewer and has guts to twitter something like that (P.S. If you can get Cocker to move to and join Giant Bomb that would be awesome). And also great response from the PR Company, if you got caught red handed and admit to it then I have no problems with that. It's the stupid cover-up’s afterward that are just annoying.

Why do PR people always seem like a bunch of slick talking used car salesmen? They don't care if the engine block has a crack in it, as long as the wheels still role.

It's Kane and Lynch all over again but this time Jeff doesn't get fired for telling what he thinks!
Seriously, what the hell is with the obsession of Metacritic scores? How many consumers look at those when they are looking at the game?

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Having played Tomb Raider Underworld for a few hours, it is actually a realy good game. It has its issues but nothing too serious. I wonder what GiantBomb will give it, will we see a biased poor review?

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Hey Jeff, do you think GameSpot/CNET would try to fire you AGAIN?  You know, just for fun?  =)

That PR dude is soooo fired.

BTW, I played TR:U for a couple hours last night, really enjoying it.  Definitely the best Tomb Raider in recent memory, check it out.  4 stars!

I guess Jeff is over the Eidos controversy nonsense...   unlike his faithful followers!

"I guess Jeff is over the Eidos controversy nonsense...   unlike his faithful followers!

:(

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People really still buy tomb raider? It might have been good when 3d platforming was new but now its a joke

Shhh! Jeff dude, you're gonna get fired again by....YOU!

Eidos just can't take critcism!

This stuff happens all of the times with reviews. Don't make a big deal about it. Publishers don't want their game to have a bad rep before it's released. Seeing as they are giving the reviewers the game for FREE, this is perfectly legit. After release, the reviewers can say whatever the hell they want.

and this is why last year i vowed to never play eidos game again (unless they come out with a new hitman)

More gamespot/eidos related controversy... Great, I just hope this one doesn't involve the sacking of guy. Guy is one of the few decent people left at gamespot. If he does get sacked, Giant Bomb should hire him as their UK dude, someone to report on things happening in gaming this side of the pond.

Heh, Cockergate.  Well, expect Guy to start his own site called Giant Cock sometime in the spring.

Eww.

super_machine said:

"SlowHands said:

"I guess Jeff is over the Eidos controversy nonsense...   unlike his faithful followers!

:(

"

Gerstmanites have long memories."

I want somebody to punch Eidos in the face.  Although unrelated to any of this I vowed to not play Tomb Raider Underworld a long time ago, I haven't read or watched anything about the game until this.  I'm not even sure when it is coming out....nor do I care.  Tomb Raider quit being fun for me....ok...well it was never fun for me, but it quit being relavent to me about the time the first movie came out.

Cocker joins GiantBomb, renegade anti-Eidos site.

Fight the publisher power!

What. The. Fuck. Really Edios? Wow.

Jeff...please, don't get fired from Giant Bomb and just give it an amazing score.  lol

"Heh, Cockergate.  Well, expect Guy to start his own site called Giant Cock sometime in the spring.

Eww.

super_machine said:

"SlowHands said:

"I guess Jeff is over the Eidos controversy nonsense...   unlike his faithful followers!

:(

"

Gerstmanites have long memories."

Eh, I prefer Gerstmannians... but we never forget.
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"Jeff...please, don't get fired from Giant Bomb and just give it an amazing score.  lol"

why Eidos....WHY?

Can't wait to hear Jeff's thoughts on the bombcast next week
to quote FalcomAdol "Fuck you Eidos"

This sounds familiar.... Huh, wonder why?

NOOOO JEFF!!! don't comment on this...let vinnie or ryan take the bullet...let's not have GERSTMAN-GATE 2008!!!  Can you get fired from your own website?  I hope not.  Still I have to thank Eidos for helping to create Giant Bomb!  Maybe someone at  VideoGaming247  will end up getting fired and start Giant Bomb UK.

So if CNET fire Guy Cocker for this does it mean that he get's a job @ Giantbomb?

This is why I love Giant Bomb.  It is an island of trust in a sea of what I can only describe as " :-| "

Unlike that OTHER Eidos game, I still kind of want to play this one.  Too bad that Crystal Dynamics' blood, sweat and tears have to get dragged into this whole publisher/game site/marketing controversy.

can you say Kane and Lynch?

Lets hope Guy Cocker doesn't get axed.

Wasn't it this time last year Kane and Lynch reviews, including one in particular.........hit the internet?  Oh Jeff, you gotta love the irony you are reporting this tidbit!  Eidos is full of poopoo heads!

Wow, so it official: Eidos are fucking idiots.

Where's Dave Halverson to comment on this?  His Play magazine is the biggest (albeit pretty) whore in the industry.

Keep fighting the good fight, Mr. Gerstmann. Send the locust scum back into their holes.

This is awesome in a really effed up way. They are surprisingly honest about this bullshit! Btw, Jeff, the title of this article made me laugh. And I'm not just saying that.

Bullshit or not bullshit, this is common, and not something to rage about. It happens all the time and it's the duty of the PR department to do this kind of stuff. I'm kinda surprised how many blogs and such have commented about this, it's nothing big, really. It happens and ofcourse they want the game to sell, lots of heart and money went into making it. Even bad games are often produced with alot of heart and alot of money. I can't blame them really.

Ah Eidos......I don't even have words. I just hope this goes really bad for them.

This hole thing just makes the game look bad. As if the publisher is ashamed about their product not meeting expectations.

Wow.  That is low.

It makes you wonder if other companies are trying to pull this kind of thing.

UK version of Gamesradar? Did I miss something? Gamesradar is a UK site with a US version.

It's difficuilt to remain objective about the quality of the games Eidos puts out when this kind of bullshit occurs.

Now this is the thing that will come to mind when I think of Tomb Raider (like it does with Kane and Lynch).

/sigh

Really? Really!?! Oh well, guess Eidos doesn't learn from their mistakes. They could have just made a quality game and gotten good scores as a result of that. It's crazy but I hear some companies tend to go that route.