But he is all those things. He treats his customers like shit, and he's smug about it. I remember when he said Fez was never gonna be on PC, then he released it on Steam and talked down to everyone that reminded him of that little comment. He's like a teenager still. Also I hate his stupid sideburns

How is "we're too sensitive" what you get from this?

Maybe the problem is that there are too many assholes. Again, I present this:

http://polytroncorporation.com/fez-ii-cancelled

I'd be worried if someone WASN'T affected by that. It's embarrassing.

@missacre said:

@milkman said:

Since his Twitter is locked now and most people can't see it:

Good, I hope he doesn't come back. If you can't take a bit of criticism, you don't belong in the video game industry.

And yet there are so many people that can't take his own outspokenness that isn't ever directed at them personally. Read through what people say about him every time his name is mentioned and imagine those those all being said at you. You wouldn't want to fight back? Also if you don't get that to some extent he's just a big troll you're a moron.

Yeah, me too. Sorry, if a developer is an idiot (not talking bout Fish now, I don't have anything against the guy, I also didn't really like Fez), a racist or a homophobe I won't support them. I won't buy anything from Orson Scott Card. I won't buy anything from Douglas TenNapel and I won't buy anything from Kevin Dent, no matter how good. I'd rather support a bad game from nice guys then a good game from assholes.

I was really looking forward to more of Disasterpeace's music.

god I hope this is true

@crazybagman said:

@missacre said:

@milkman said:

Since his Twitter is locked now and most people can't see it:

Good, I hope he doesn't come back. If you can't take a bit of criticism, you don't belong in the video game industry.

And yet there are so many people that can't take his own outspokenness that isn't ever directed at them personally. Read through what people say about him every time his name is mentioned and imagine those those all being said at you. You wouldn't want to fight back? Also if you don't get that to some extent he's just a big troll you're a moron.

And calling the abuse he gets "criticism" is a real stretch. As someone on twitter said, looking at the comments on the Polytron blog about this, I would never, ever want to get into game development.

Phil Fish is awesome.

@crazybagman said:

@missacre said:

@milkman said:

Since his Twitter is locked now and most people can't see it:

Good, I hope he doesn't come back. If you can't take a bit of criticism, you don't belong in the video game industry.

And yet there are so many people that can't take his own outspokenness that isn't ever directed at them personally. Read through what people say about him every time his name is mentioned and imagine those those all being said at you. You wouldn't want to fight back? Also if you don't get that to some extent he's just a big troll you're a moron.

WELL, you know, IT IS the internet, so if someone was talking shit about me, all I have to do is close the page, bam, problem solved. Also, if he didn't want to be the laughingstock of the gaming community, he shouldn't have made all of those snarky comments about them. Oh, resorting to name-calling, really? Just for stating my opinion? Isn't that precious?

why are people good riddance-ing? don't they want to have new games come out? it's all "NOW YOUR ART MEANS NOTHING CAUSE YOU SAID A MEAN THING YOU RACIST" and what does that have to do with awesome video games

@missacre: Are you his ex? You're coming off way more catty than he ever did.

@oldirtybearon: I've never met him, thank goodness. I just don't like him or his game.

@milkman said:

Since his Twitter is locked now and most people can't see it:

Don't be a dick, asshole.

dished it out consistently, what did he expect.

THE INTERNET.

@dantefaustesq said:

I'm sorry if I misunderstood you but I don't know if this is in reaction to something I said or not. At least I don't think I suggested at some point that people have to or should respect or like Phil Fish. I certainly did say that given his previous antics he doesn't deserve all the treatment he gets, although his behavior in return makes the situation ambiguous.

But the nice guys in this case is just a company more politely asking for your money.

A lot of the comments like those being posted here are pathetic, but I suppose expected since this is the internet. Pretty sad and dramatic turn of events.

Just remember people, this is what we lose if he isn't pulling an Andy Kaufman and really is done with video games

WARNING: VERY SPOILERY FEZ VIDEO (though, it wouldn't really make sense if you haven't played the game)

Fuck that. If someone verbally attacks you, give it back. There is no such thing as a moral high ground.

Fucking manlets, what will they do next?

@chaser324 said:

@immortalsaiyan said:

@turbyne said:

@blu3v3nom07 said:

I'm hoping for a good Jimquisition out of all of this.

HELL YES!

Phil Fish is a lil baby.

I never thought of that. Should make a good episode. Jim Sterling is one of my favorite people in the industry.

I'll be honest, I don't understand the appeal of Jim Sterling. I find him incredibly annoying. Although, to be fair, I don't really like any of these video game media people that take on an "angry nerd" persona.

Jim Sterling is God's gift to the world.

He's different than other personalities, he's unique but very, very entertaining. I also feel like he has a pretty good opinion on a lot of things, perhaps not so balanced but respectable nonetheless.

Perhaps try watching a few episodes of the Jimquisition, if it's not for you that's okay.

I feel like Jonathan Blow is addressing this stuff pretty well on his twitter. Journalists were just look for dumb quotes to put in their rushed to press stories about the XB1 self-publishing thing instead of seeking insight for intelligently written well thought out articles on the subject of self-publishing.

I dunno, he can't be serious. Who would cancel a game because of a journalist? Unless he really has some issues, then i could understand not wanting to be in the spotlight anymore.

One last "choke on it":

It's not Marcus Beer. He's been dealing with people shit-slinging at him for years. It's now reached the point where he just doesn't want to deal with it anymore. He's (apparently) walking away. Go look at the comments section of any article talking about Fish. Or hell, the comments section of the Polytron site, or read through this thread.

There's a lot of people throwing quicklime on the guy. It's hard to blame him for blowing up and walking away.

This whole thing has blown up in the stupidest way.

@milkman said:

One last "choke on it":

You cant really get a "Last Laugh" if you blocked everyone your trying to laugh at.

I can understand him wanting to get away from all of this...

@milkman: Oh, that Canadian douche.

I think the only reason he would reconsider is two things: 1) he doesn't know/want to do anything else besides make games and 2) the fans that legitimately love him and his work speaking out to bring him back. I wouldn't blame him at all if he got out of games though, especially now.

@milkman said:

One last "choke on it":

That is precisely why I hate him so much. He's such a smug motherfucker and he has such a punchable face.

I suppose making games wasn't his true passion after all, well hope he finds it elsewhere.

@milkman said:

One last "choke on it":

That cracks me the fuck up. Even going down in flames he's got nothing but middle fingers for err'body.

I think at this point Phil Fish is reveling in it and he should be. Sure this will have consequences but in the short term, this is exactly the kind of cathartic shit you want from this situation if you were Phil. Again, I can't help but feel this is the most Phil Fish thing he could be doing right now.

I'm kinda confused as to why you think I'm picking sides here. I'm not giving Fish a pass. All I see is someone one one side who is, like you said, an annoying asshole and then on the other side you have an over-emotional dude who can blow up from any kind of provocation. I've seen it before with Dennis Dyack, both dudes seem like great guys who can be temperamental when things get hairy....which is why it's great to see Dennis realize his own shortcomings and decided to leave that nonsense to PR.

It's easy to tell people to be "civil and calm" but you're only talking from what you would do if you were in that situation. If you have better control over your emotions then cool, more power to you man, but just because you can find a way to step above petty stuff doesn't mean that other people can do that just as easily. Perspective.

Threw a temper tantrum? He was publicly attacked by a talentless hack. Stop pretending like you wouldn't react the same way in that situation.

I'm 100% on Phil Fish's side. This dude gets shit on more than any other person in gaming, simply because he has opinions people don't like.

I mean, Phil Fish isn't responding to criticism. He's responding to fucking unwarranted insults and attacks in a public forum. Why is nobody talking about what a shithead this Annoyedgamer guy is? He couldn't get quotes, so he goes on is little soap box and starts attacking people?

Why are we ignoring the instigator here? So some hack can turn on a camera and start insulting somebody unprovoked, but if the attackee responds, that guy is portrayed to have thrown a temper tantrum?

I'm not one of those people who thinks the internet is a irredeemable cesspool that actually does more harm than it does good... But I'm closer now than I've ever been. I can't believe a legion of people could get a story so wrong in such a small amount of time. The only explanation is that said legion is full of sociopaths.

This is not about growing up tho. Phil is a rude person and a loud mouth but because of that he get shits on constantly by hundreds of videogame fans. Recently, he got almost the entire Xbox die-hard after him for shit talking Microsoft.

Now I do that sometimes too, even on social media but all I get is "dude chill out" and that's that. This guy, get accuse of threatening violence on his ex-gf and the constant "fuck you" from random people from morning til night. That shit is not ok for any body.

Game journalism, well, lets just say I have only ever consider one person working in the gaming press to be an actual journalist.

@oldirtybearon said:

@milkman said:

One last "choke on it":

That cracks me the fuck up. Even going down in flames he's got nothing but middle fingers for err'body.

I am more offended why vancouver is trending world wide :@

And what did Kevin Dent do?

@planetfunksquad said:

I apologize if you misread me but I intended to refer to taking Phil Fish as a whole looking at his insight and antics together. Which that in mind it's no wonder he's polarizing and why people selectively choose to side with one or the other depending which comment on which side they take most offense with. That or it's also leads to the third option of no sides appearing in the right as many have reiterated which only results in a loss (unless a lesson is learned of course).

I don't know what did he do?

The out-of-nowhere announcement of FEZ II with no gameplay - or anything really - followed by this abrupt cancellation is certainly...

Fishy.

This is too much fun. Hold on, I'm gonna get some popcorn.

That was really funny.

@bacongames: Fair enough. I just have a problem with people suggesting that he shouldn't defend himself. OK, telling someone to kill themselves is kinda dumb, but in the heat of the moment I can see how that would come out. I know I've said far worse in retaliation.

I see your point though.

@truthtellah: Holy shit! Did they splice a poodle with a crocodile?!

...freaking nightmare factory.

"Well what do you expect, it's the internet DUH!"

I expect people to be grown-ups. I expect people to treat each other with the minimum of respect even when they disagree with their opinion. I expect people who got fucking bullied when they were kids to not do this shit to anyone else, especially when they're in their 20s. I expect this bullshit "it's the internet, get over it" not to be a good reason to continue being complete fucking asshole, pretending it's a game of that it's the only place it's still okay to say this sort of thing.

And I mostly expect this industry never to grow up if you keep showing up the worst of what the internet has to offer every fucking day of your stupid, insipid, worthless, pathetic, close-minded fucking little life.

What a whiny bitch. I feel sorry for the other people at Polytron.