What do you think was the peak of the Final Fantasy franchise?

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#1 Posted by SSValis (1136 posts) -

I think for most people it would be between FF7 and 10. As far as popularity, quality , and the impact it had on you, which do you think was the series high point? 

#2 Posted by Animasta (14648 posts) -

FF12.

and saying it's peaked is a little... overzealous

#3 Posted by YI_Orange (1129 posts) -

Yeah, I wouldn't say it's peaked yet. A lot of fans of the older stuff might not like the direction it's going, but I personally think it's going in the right direction and will find something great soon enough.

#4 Posted by SSValis (1136 posts) -
@YI_Orange said:

Yeah, I wouldn't say it's peaked yet. A lot of fans of the older stuff might not like the direction it's going, but I personally think it's going in the right direction and will find something great soon enough.

The quality hasn't necessarily peaked but the popularity certainly has since FF10, just look at the sales. 
#5 Posted by Video_Game_King (36026 posts) -

So you're pretty much asking me what I think the best Final Fantasy is? VI. It has to be VI.

#6 Posted by SuperfluousMoniker (2907 posts) -

I'd say it peaked at 7. FF9 and FFX's battle system aside, it's all downhill from there.

#7 Posted by BoG (5181 posts) -

I totally think it has peaked. I was consistently going up, and peaked at VI. It stayed at it's pek until 10, where it dropped.
#8 Posted by Marz (5642 posts) -

VI

#9 Posted by UlquioKani (1027 posts) -

13  
That was a joke 
I really enjoyed 10 so that I guess

#10 Posted by benjaebe (2783 posts) -

FFX probably. It's the last one I really enjoyed.

#11 Posted by YI_Orange (1129 posts) -

@BoG: I can see that, but I would definitely not put VIII up there, and a good amount of people seem to really like 12.

@SSValis: Sure, but I mean in terms of quality I think it can still go up, but then again I'm not a huge fan of the traditional FFs. In terms of what my favorite one is, and what will probably remain my favorite forever I would say Tactics. If you only count the numbers, well, I don't feel that strongly about any of them, but I would pick VI if I had to.

#12 Posted by punpun (232 posts) -

My favorite FF game was 9, so that's my answer. Didn't care for anything before that other than 4.

#13 Posted by Video_Game_King (36026 posts) -
@BoG said:
I totally think it has peaked. I was consistently going up, and peaked at VI. It stayed at it's peak until 10, where it dropped.
What about FF8? That game would have been much better if it ended on Disc 2 (or whenever the war between the two gardens happened).
#14 Posted by Dain22 (312 posts) -

I think you need to separate the 2D from the 3D games in the series. The last 2D one released in North America was FF6 wasn't it? I think they perfected the FF formula with that one.  
 
As for the the 3D ones, although I never played it, I'd say FF9. I think Square learned from their mistakes with 8 (which was running heavily upon the hype from 7), but 10 and onward have been mostly downhill. I hear 12 is pretty okay. I have no real interest in 11 or 13.

#15 Posted by Pazy (2561 posts) -

Though I have appreciate some of what Final Fantasy's have done I have never played a lot of any of them (though I do try). The only Final Fantasy game which I have any real love for is Final Fantasy XI so I would have to say that, for me, that is the peak of the series since its the only one I can actually say I like. An argument could be, and has been, made that its not really a Final Fantasy game but I think its a fantastic game and one that im looking forward to getting back to with friends (with look soon as we are getting through WoW quickly).

#16 Posted by Gilsham (293 posts) -

XIV seriously if I had some mates that wanted to play I would, best single player one to me is XII, looking forward to XIII-2 tho as I liked XIII but the battle system in XII was just better for me

#17 Posted by FancySoapsMan (5806 posts) -

Tactics.

#18 Posted by Zealousadonis (133 posts) -

PSOne

#19 Posted by IBurningStar (2160 posts) -

Somewhere between VII and X.

#20 Posted by MikkaQ (10268 posts) -

3/6/you know what one I mean.

#21 Posted by ryanwho (12082 posts) -

I'd say 12, but there was a brief period where you could expect a new entry every 2 years or so and that's probably their "high point". Where 12 was the beginning of the "wait about 5 years and in the meantime play a dozen remakes".

#22 Posted by TheGreatGuero (9130 posts) -

For me, right now is the peak. I've always thought the games were really crappy.

#23 Posted by DAFTPUNK (1213 posts) -

Final fantasy 10 was probably one of the best final fantasy game IMO, I t hasn't peaked yet!

#24 Posted by ryanwho (12082 posts) -
@FancySoapsMan said:
Tactics.
If the height of FF was a rebranded Tactics Ogre game then what was the height of that game's developer, Quest? When they made the first SRPG most people played or the only RPG worth playing on the N64? Oh also, Matsuno, who later went and made FF12 and was hopspitalized from migraines having to work with shitty modern Square Enix, was the head of Quest. So you might be more a Quest fan than a Square fan. They also did Vagrant Story which a lot of people enjoy. I think its important to call out the individual teams responsible for the good things attached to a big publisher so its less confusing when that big publisher starts to suck. SE sucks because indivuals who made great games moved on. And now everything is Nomura bullshit.
#25 Edited by Subjugation (4718 posts) -

FFIX was my personal favorite. Black mage Vivi, monkey-tailed pirate Zidane, clumsy knight Steiner, princess Garnet and more. Memorable characters abound. And the music ... man ...

Is there any way to get these emulated on a PC? I'd kill to play this again.

#26 Posted by Kyreo (4600 posts) -

this one.

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#27 Posted by Soap (3565 posts) -

The series has peaked, sad as I am to say that. My personal favs will always be 7,8 and 10.

#28 Posted by MrKlorox (11206 posts) -

For me it was FF6. FF7 started becoming a different game.

#29 Edited by Cyrus_Saren (530 posts) -

Tactics. If we're going by "main" games, then XII.
#30 Posted by RockinKemosabe (619 posts) -

Probably X cause that's the last time I enjoyed an FF game.

#31 Posted by Liber (648 posts) -

8

#32 Posted by defaulttag (890 posts) -

X

#33 Posted by Aronman789 (2676 posts) -
#34 Posted by Aus_azn (2224 posts) -

Between 7 and 10, probably closer to 8 than 9.

#35 Posted by FancySoapsMan (5806 posts) -
@ryanwho said:
@FancySoapsMan said:
Tactics.
If the height of FF was a rebranded Tactics Ogre game then what was the height of that game's developer, Quest? When they made the first SRPG most people played or the only RPG worth playing on the N64? Oh also, Matsuno, who later went and made FF12 and was hopspitalized from migraines having to work with shitty modern Square Enix, was the head of Quest. So you might be more a Quest fan than a Square fan. They also did Vagrant Story which a lot of people enjoy. I think its important to call out the individual teams responsible for the good things attached to a big publisher so its less confusing when that big publisher starts to suck. SE sucks because indivuals who made great games moved on. And now everything is Nomura bullshit.
You're probably right.
 
I've never been a big FF fan, but I do like FFT and Tactics Ogre.
#36 Posted by Toxin066 (3254 posts) -

I feel like it peaked at 10, went way down hill with 11, came back up the hill a tad with 12, and then plummeted into a deep crevasse with 13 and 14.

#37 Posted by BoG (5181 posts) -
@Video_Game_King said:
@BoG said:
I totally think it has peaked. I was consistently going up, and peaked at VI. It stayed at it's peak until 10, where it dropped.
What about FF8? That game would have been much better if it ended on Disc 2 (or whenever the war between the two gardens happened).

VIII and I have a very complicated relationship. If we pretend only disc one exists, It's probably my favorite game ever. And then comes the memory forgetting and the orphanage and Esthar... and... I just loathed all the stupid twists. The gameplay in the end almost disappears, too. Junctioning was fun until the end. But... I love the characters, I love the music, I love the art... I just love it. And hate it. I actually prefer it over VII or X, which may shock some people. I blame my unexplainable love for the game on the fact that it was my first. Oh, and the characters. Some people say they suck, but I loved the characters.
#38 Posted by figurehead00 (141 posts) -

6, 7, 9, 10, and 12 were all amazing, with 12 probably being my favorite, never played 4 or 8. Also, though I don't think of it as a traditional FF game, I really didn't hate 13 as much as everyone else did. All the complaints about it being linear are definitely fair, and I would have liked to get to Pulse about 10 or so hours earlier, but I liked the battle system and kinda dug the story. Plus I liked Lightning as a protagonist. Oh well, to each his own. Cautiously optimistic about XIII-2.

#39 Posted by NorthSarge (242 posts) -

@FancySoapsMan said:

Tactics.

This. but if you were looking for a numbered one...i would say (personally) 7,9, or 10

#40 Posted by SlasherMan (1725 posts) -

9 hands down. 
The most memorable characters in any FF ever as far as I'm concerned. I'm still blown away by how much emotion they could convey (and in turn how much sympathy and adoration they got out of the player) without actually saying a single damn word, ever. Last non-voiced FF in the main series, going voiced was for the most part not such a great move. Best soundtrack, best FF world, best characters, best FMVs, etc. They don't make them like that anymore.
 
By far the best ending of any FF game, too.
 
  

#41 Posted by InfiniteGeass (2051 posts) -

I think my opinion of it being 13 is invalid since that's the only FF game I've played.

#42 Posted by Tim_the_Corsair (3065 posts) -

They peaked when they somehow convinced people that they were anything more than bog-standard, overwrought, generic JRPG crap.

So VII?

#43 Posted by Wes899 (2107 posts) -

It stopped being good at the end of the PS1 era.

#44 Posted by fox01313 (5061 posts) -

#6

#45 Edited by Soapy86 (2620 posts) -

I think X was definitely the high point for Final Fantasy. I feel like that was the last one they released where FF was still kind of a pretty big deal. As much as I enjoyed XI for what it was and loved XII, ever since X, the series has been grossly mishandled. After X was when they began experimenting too much with the core series and started their never-ending stream of spinoffs, remakes, sub-sequels, et cetera. Final Fantasy, even the main numbered games no longer mean anything to me. The entire franchise has just become this indecipherable, rainbow-colored, putrid  mishmash of pretentious nonsense. 
 
Full disclosure: X isn't my favorite. Probably not even in my top five. 

#46 Posted by SSValis (1136 posts) -

good thoughts everyone, I can't believe it has been 10 years since FF10. 

#47 Edited by Goly (843 posts) -

Was XIII that bad? Is there anyone that enjoyed it? Graphically it looks amazing there's gotta be something to that game does it really suck that bad?

#48 Posted by MiniPato (2721 posts) -

@Goly said:

Was XIII that bad? Is there anyone that enjoyed it? Graphically it looks amazing there's gotta be something to that game does it really suck that bad?

As a Final Fantasy game, it was incredibly disappointing to many, including myself. It was crazy linear and it only ever "opens up" when you enter a big field full of monsters toward the backend of the game. And even then there isn't much to do at that point except fight monsters and do quests that require you to slay monsters. It has good graphics, good music, and a good battle system. While that sounds like it should make for an overall great game, it only makes for a decent game at best because the structure and pace of the game is so poor. Character customization is also incredibly basic for an RPG. But I was never a fan of the sphere grid in FFX, license board in FFXII, and so I'm certainly not a fan of the chrystarium in here.

I felt the series peaked at FFIX. If I remember correctly from the GT retrospective, Hironobu Sakaguchi said this was his favorite FF game and embodied everything he wanted in one. I didn't like FFX as much as everyone else. It just didn't feel like a Final Fantasy game to me.

#49 Edited by John1912 (1830 posts) -

7 is where it tech peaked;  Its been up and down from there...Mostly down.....Fuck 13 was awful...Still pisses me off.  Square actually has to win me back after the string of shit they have put out.

#50 Posted by McShank (1629 posts) -

10 for me was where it peaked.. but 9 was and still is my favorite with 10 a close second. 12 was ok but meh, wasn't as good as the previous and 13's combat style is to far from what it used to be for it to keep me interested.. Hopefully they figure it out and go back to what made it awesome in the first place since i dont remember people bitching about how stale it was but rather how great the games were..

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