Delete: Real-Time Combat
I think the issue is more that it's a valid concept and people are adding unnecessary games to it. In terms of an RPG, having a Real Time Combat concept tagged to is useful. But attaching it to fighting games and FPS games is ridiculous. So, I think it's just something that needs to be cleaned up and policed periodically.
" I think the issue is more that it's a valid concept and people are adding unnecessary games to it. In terms of an RPG, having a Real Time Combat concept tagged to is useful. But attaching it to fighting games and FPS games is ridiculous. So, I think it's just something that needs to be cleaned up and policed periodically. "In that case, it should be renamed. Real-Time Combat implies every game under the sun that isn't turn-based. Something like "real-time battle system" or another name that implies that we're talking about RPGs specifically would be far more appropriate.
" @Marino said:Both of these statements are valid. I'd lobby for a name change, and regular policing of the attached games." I think the issue is more that it's a valid concept and people are adding unnecessary games to it. In terms of an RPG, having a Real Time Combat concept tagged to is useful. But attaching it to fighting games and FPS games is ridiculous. So, I think it's just something that needs to be cleaned up and policed periodically. "In that case, it should be renamed. Real-Time Combat implies every game under the sun that isn't turn-based. Something like "real-time battle system" or another name that implies that we're talking about RPGs specifically would be far more appropriate. "
" @Marino said:Agreed. A game like Army of Two should not be listed in this so it should be renamed or just cleaned up." I think the issue is more that it's a valid concept and people are adding unnecessary games to it. In terms of an RPG, having a Real Time Combat concept tagged to is useful. But attaching it to fighting games and FPS games is ridiculous. So, I think it's just something that needs to be cleaned up and policed periodically. "In that case, it should be renamed. Real-Time Combat implies every game under the sun that isn't turn-based. Something like "real-time battle system" or another name that implies that we're talking about RPGs specifically would be far more appropriate. "
Alternately, the deck's definition could be made more clear, such as by adding the sentence "This only applies to RPG's." at the end or changing the initial "Combat where..." into "Combat in RPG's where..." or something similar.
" @Suicidal_SNiper: I also agree that a rename would clear it up sufficiently and that a deletion is probably not necessary. I don't think "real-time battle system" would quite stop the issue because people would probably just claim that they thought 'battle system' applied to any game with combat. While it may be a bit awkward, renaming it "Real-Time Combat in RPG's" would make it very clear. Alternately, the deck's definition could be made more clear, such as by adding the sentence "This only applies to RPG's." at the end or changing the initial "Combat where..." into "Combat in RPG's where..." or something similar. "Denoting RPGs in the concept name is clunky and unnecessary. Just denote that the concept is related to RPGs in the deck.
" @Seeric said:" @Suicidal_SNiper: I also agree that a rename would clear it up sufficiently and that a deletion is probably not necessary. I don't think "real-time battle system" would quite stop the issue because people would probably just claim that they thought 'battle system' applied to any game with combat. While it may be a bit awkward, renaming it "Real-Time Combat in RPG's" would make it very clear. Alternately, the deck's definition could be made more clear, such as by adding the sentence "This only applies to RPG's." at the end or changing the initial "Combat where..." into "Combat in RPG's where..." or something similar. "Denoting RPGs in the concept name is clunky and unnecessary. Just denote that the concept is related to RPGs in the deck. "
I don't think that will do it, I think the genre name must be mentioned in the concept summary or else it will be abused again. After all when someone says "Real time combat" you don't think Fighting games, but they're listed there.
Just cleaned out Medic again. Yes, people frequently misuse certain concepts and objects, but we shouldn't have to make it blindingly obvious in the title. Just check up on it every now and then to make sure it's still being used the way it's supposed to.
This. No need for a name change, just this little clarification and then a quick clean up." @Seeric said:
" @Suicidal_SNiper: I also agree that a rename would clear it up sufficiently and that a deletion is probably not necessary. I don't think "real-time battle system" would quite stop the issue because people would probably just claim that they thought 'battle system' applied to any game with combat. While it may be a bit awkward, renaming it "Real-Time Combat in RPG's" would make it very clear. Alternately, the deck's definition could be made more clear, such as by adding the sentence "This only applies to RPG's." at the end or changing the initial "Combat where..." into "Combat in RPG's where..." or something similar. "Denoting RPGs in the concept name is clunky and unnecessary. Just denote that the concept is related to RPGs in the deck. "
" @LordAndrew: Why does that page even exist? Medics can be found in lots of games. "It's about a specific class in one specific game. Check out the page
Yeah, but the page says that medics are a healer class in the Etrian Odyssey games. That doesn't sound like a specific class to me." @TMThomsen said:
It's about a specific class in one specific game. Check out the page "" @LordAndrew: Why does that page even exist? Medics can be found in lots of games. "
I would rather see it being added to a general Medic concept page, like i.e.. Shaman.
" @Hailinel said:I've rewritten the deck and article to be more RPG specific. I'm going to need help weeding out all of the games that shouldn't be attached, though.This. No need for a name change, just this little clarification and then a quick clean up. "" @Seeric said:
" @Suicidal_SNiper: I also agree that a rename would clear it up sufficiently and that a deletion is probably not necessary. I don't think "real-time battle system" would quite stop the issue because people would probably just claim that they thought 'battle system' applied to any game with combat. While it may be a bit awkward, renaming it "Real-Time Combat in RPG's" would make it very clear. Alternately, the deck's definition could be made more clear, such as by adding the sentence "This only applies to RPG's." at the end or changing the initial "Combat where..." into "Combat in RPG's where..." or something similar. "Denoting RPGs in the concept name is clunky and unnecessary. Just denote that the concept is related to RPGs in the deck. "
I've done a bit of removing too, although the new forced pagination means removals have to be done in significantly smaller increments than before. :(
" @LordAndrew: Easier said then done....Even if you post guidelines in the overview people will still add games that shouldn't be included in the concept. "The same could be said of any concept. I could add New Super Mario Bros. Wii and Mega Man 10 to the First Person Perspective page despite how obviously wrong I'd be to do so. That doesn't mean that the First Person Perspective page should be deleted.
" @Unknown_Pleasures said:I would hope people would have a little more sense than to do that." @LordAndrew: Easier said then done....Even if you post guidelines in the overview people will still add games that shouldn't be included in the concept. "The same could be said of any concept. I could add New Super Mario Bros. Wii and Mega Man 10 to the First Person Perspective page despite how obviously wrong I'd be to do so. That doesn't mean that the First Person Perspective page should be deleted. "
" @Hailinel said:Such is the mentality of the troll." @Unknown_Pleasures said:I would hope people would have a little more sense than to do that. "" @LordAndrew: Easier said then done....Even if you post guidelines in the overview people will still add games that shouldn't be included in the concept. "The same could be said of any concept. I could add New Super Mario Bros. Wii and Mega Man 10 to the First Person Perspective page despite how obviously wrong I'd be to do so. That doesn't mean that the First Person Perspective page should be deleted. "
" @Hailinel: Nope....because people will just simply keep re-adding them its inevitiable...its pretty stupid to have a page that has to be policed regularly....that's just my opinion. "No, no, the detailing of the concept has been refined to keep such additions out! As it was before FPS and fighting games technically fit, but now they cannot. Even if they're submitted, the moderators couldn't after reading the concept accept it and those who have the power to alter it without supervision I imagine are responsible enough to not add anything that doesn't belong.
" @Unknown_Pleasures said:After 1000 points you can live edit without having to go through a mod." @Hailinel: Nope....because people will just simply keep re-adding them its inevitiable...its pretty stupid to have a page that has to be policed regularly....that's just my opinion. "No, no, the detailing of the concept has been refined to keep such additions out! As it was before FPS and fighting games technically fit, but now they cannot. Even if they're submitted, the moderators couldn't after reading the concept accept it and those who have the power to alter it without supervision I imagine are responsible enough to not add anything that doesn't belong. "
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