Last night on Penn & Teller Bullshit it was all about the video games, they asked the age old question, do violent video games make violent people? I thought the last 5 mins of the show was great and really drove the point home that violent video games DO NOT make violent people, particularity children.
any one watch Penn & Teller BS on video games last night?
It's up on youtube... well I found part 1 and 2 of the video on it. Pretty cool, hopefully I can catch the rest of it.
"Video games without big fucking guns are BULLSHIT!"
"Jack Thompson is a fucking asshole"
"Laws don't mean jack shit to nature, and shit Jack shouldn't expect to change human nature with a dumbass fucking law.... Jack stop feeding the motherfucking fish."
LOL...man there are some great quotes in here.
" Since when are penn and teller taking on world issues?And can teller (or is it penn) talk? "Penn is the one talking, Teller is the one doing the shenanigans.
" Oh man I fucking LOVE that hardcore dude near the middle of part 1! Holy shit! THAT is the kind of guy I'd want to game with. Shit would get SO intense."Killin zombies and shit. I love that stuff."Fuck! "
Man, what a pussy that kid was. I was about his age when the Cub Scouts brought us all out to fire rifles at the firing range. I hit the target & enjoyed it thoroughly.
I think that kid cried because everyone put pressure on him & were frowning the whole time. He didn't know how to handle it, so he cried!
It doesn't mean that in a few years he doesn't turn out to be a raging psychopath. It could still happen, but not due to video games. It's all mental & shit.
" Man, what a pussy that kid was. I was about his age when the Cub Scouts brought us all out to fire rifles at the firing range. I hit the target & enjoyed it thoroughly.I think that kid cried because everyone put pressure on him & were frowning the whole time. He didn't know how to handle it, so he cried!It doesn't mean that in a few years he doesn't turn out to be a raging psychopath. It could still happen, but not due to video games. It's all mental & shit. "I think he was crying because the butt of the gun hit him in the jaw. The guy didn't have him properly set the butt into his shoulder.
" @Lind_L_Taylor said:I didn't notice that the first time I saw the video, but I think you're right. The gun did look like it rubbed up against his cheek." Man, what a pussy that kid was. I was about his age when the Cub Scouts brought us all out to fire rifles at the firing range. I hit the target & enjoyed it thoroughly.I think that kid cried because everyone put pressure on him & were frowning the whole time. He didn't know how to handle it, so he cried!It doesn't mean that in a few years he doesn't turn out to be a raging psychopath. It could still happen, but not due to video games. It's all mental & shit. "I think he was crying because the butt of the gun hit him in the jaw. The guy didn't have him properly set the butt into his shoulder. "
" @Lind_L_Taylor said:agreed. but at least he won't ever want to fire another gun ever again." Man, what a pussy that kid was. I was about his age when the Cub Scouts brought us all out to fire rifles at the firing range. I hit the target & enjoyed it thoroughly.I think that kid cried because everyone put pressure on him & were frowning the whole time. He didn't know how to handle it, so he cried!It doesn't mean that in a few years he doesn't turn out to be a raging psychopath. It could still happen, but not due to video games. It's all mental & shit. "I think he was crying because the butt of the gun hit him in the jaw. The guy didn't have him properly set the butt into his shoulder. "
" @PureRok said:Are you fucking kidding me? Are you hoping he'll turn out gay or docile in an all-guns/all-the-time society? Where was his Father? The guy needs to learn how to shoot guns again just to redeem himself from being the big baby that he is." @Lind_L_Taylor said:agreed. but at least he won't ever want to fire another gun ever again. "" Man, what a pussy that kid was. I was about his age when the Cub Scouts brought us all out to fire rifles at the firing range. I hit the target & enjoyed it thoroughly.I think that kid cried because everyone put pressure on him & were frowning the whole time. He didn't know how to handle it, so he cried!It doesn't mean that in a few years he doesn't turn out to be a raging psychopath. It could still happen, but not due to video games. It's all mental & shit. "I think he was crying because the butt of the gun hit him in the jaw. The guy didn't have him properly set the butt into his shoulder. "
That rifle butt didn't hit him that hard. Why the fuck didn't he fire it a couple more times? He cried due to the pressure of having a camera in his face & probably people talking about child killers & the Columbine massacre. Maybe his Mom threatened to slap him if he said he enjoyed firing it?
" @Big_D said:Maybe you have no idea what the fuck you're talking about, and he really didn't enjoy it?" @PureRok said:Are you fucking kidding me? Are you hoping he'll turn out gay or docile in an all-guns/all-the-time society? Where was his Father? The guy needs to learn how to shoot guns again just to redeem himself from being the big baby that he is.That rifle butt didn't hit him that hard. Why the fuck didn't he fire it a couple more times? He cried due to the pressure of having a camera in his face & probably people talking about child killers & the Columbine massacre. Maybe his Mom threatened to slap him if he said he enjoyed firing it? "" @Lind_L_Taylor said:agreed. but at least he won't ever want to fire another gun ever again. "" Man, what a pussy that kid was. I was about his age when the Cub Scouts brought us all out to fire rifles at the firing range. I hit the target & enjoyed it thoroughly.I think that kid cried because everyone put pressure on him & were frowning the whole time. He didn't know how to handle it, so he cried!It doesn't mean that in a few years he doesn't turn out to be a raging psychopath. It could still happen, but not due to video games. It's all mental & shit. "I think he was crying because the butt of the gun hit him in the jaw. The guy didn't have him properly set the butt into his shoulder. "
" @Lind_L_Taylor said:And maybe you don't know what the fuck YOU'RE talking about? This is a gun-based society & he'll have to learn sooner or later. Just having him run around like the mind-controlled Alec of A Clockwork Orange, letting anyone do what they want to him because he can't fight back, is no way live. You have to be able to apply force when it's necessary to do so. Recall the phrase: "Give me liberty or give me death". Weapons are a necessary evil. The main point is that you don't use them for cold-blooded murder out of boredom or do something stupid with them. It's about taking responsibility. You're a big boy, I'm sure you can figure this out." @Big_D said:Maybe you have no idea what the fuck you're talking about, and he really didn't enjoy it? "" @PureRok said:Are you fucking kidding me? Are you hoping he'll turn out gay or docile in an all-guns/all-the-time society? Where was his Father? The guy needs to learn how to shoot guns again just to redeem himself from being the big baby that he is.That rifle butt didn't hit him that hard. Why the fuck didn't he fire it a couple more times? He cried due to the pressure of having a camera in his face & probably people talking about child killers & the Columbine massacre. Maybe his Mom threatened to slap him if he said he enjoyed firing it? "" @Lind_L_Taylor said:agreed. but at least he won't ever want to fire another gun ever again. "" Man, what a pussy that kid was. I was about his age when the Cub Scouts brought us all out to fire rifles at the firing range. I hit the target & enjoyed it thoroughly.I think that kid cried because everyone put pressure on him & were frowning the whole time. He didn't know how to handle it, so he cried!It doesn't mean that in a few years he doesn't turn out to be a raging psychopath. It could still happen, but not due to video games. It's all mental & shit. "I think he was crying because the butt of the gun hit him in the jaw. The guy didn't have him properly set the butt into his shoulder. "
" @Big_D said:" @PureRok said:Are you fucking kidding me? Are you hoping he'll turn out gay or docile in an all-guns/all-the-time society? Where was his Father? The guy needs to learn how to shoot guns again just to redeem himself from being the big baby that he is." @Lind_L_Taylor said:agreed. but at least he won't ever want to fire another gun ever again. "" Man, what a pussy that kid was. I was about his age when the Cub Scouts brought us all out to fire rifles at the firing range. I hit the target & enjoyed it thoroughly.I think that kid cried because everyone put pressure on him & were frowning the whole time. He didn't know how to handle it, so he cried!It doesn't mean that in a few years he doesn't turn out to be a raging psychopath. It could still happen, but not due to video games. It's all mental & shit. "I think he was crying because the butt of the gun hit him in the jaw. The guy didn't have him properly set the butt into his shoulder. "
Who are you to judge this kid? So what if he doesn't want to take part in things like going to firing ranges and shooting targets? He doesn't have to redeem himself. That kid is just as good a person if he doesn't like firearms than if he does. Maybe when he's older he will go out and try firing a gun like that again.
His father was probably at work or maybe he doesn't have a father. Either way, it doesn't matter.
" @Lind_L_Taylor said:I'm the viewer & we're discussing the show. I have every right to pass judgment." @Big_D said:" @PureRok said:Are you fucking kidding me? Are you hoping he'll turn out gay or docile in an all-guns/all-the-time society? Where was his Father? The guy needs to learn how to shoot guns again just to redeem himself from being the big baby that he is." @Lind_L_Taylor said:agreed. but at least he won't ever want to fire another gun ever again. "" Man, what a pussy that kid was. I was about his age when the Cub Scouts brought us all out to fire rifles at the firing range. I hit the target & enjoyed it thoroughly.I think that kid cried because everyone put pressure on him & were frowning the whole time. He didn't know how to handle it, so he cried!It doesn't mean that in a few years he doesn't turn out to be a raging psychopath. It could still happen, but not due to video games. It's all mental & shit. "I think he was crying because the butt of the gun hit him in the jaw. The guy didn't have him properly set the butt into his shoulder. "
Who are you to judge this kid? So what if he doesn't want to take part in things like going to firing ranges and shooting targets? He doesn't have to redeem himself. That kid is just as good a person if he doesn't like firearms than if he does. Maybe when he's older he will go out and try firing a gun like that again.
His father was probably at work or maybe he doesn't have a father. Either way, it doesn't matter. "
If you want a decent fucking sample, then you should have got more than one kid out on that firing range, blasting away at Ron Jeremy & McCaulie Caulkin's heads. I bet most of them wouldn't have cried. I guess they didn't expect the kid they selected to fire the gun to be a Momma's boy.
" You weren't judging the show. You were judging a child to be a coward without good reason. "There is plenty of good reason. Looks like media manipulation to me.
@RsistncE said:
" @Lind_L_Taylor: Whoa, stereotypical American. Whoa. "Goddamn. I like your avatar!
" Are you fucking kidding me? Are you hoping he'll turn out gay or docile in an all-guns/all-the-time society? Where was his Father? The guy needs to learn how to shoot guns again just to redeem himself from being the big baby that he is.That rifle butt didn't hit him that hard. Why the fuck didn't he fire it a couple more times? He cried due to the pressure of having a camera in his face & probably people talking about child killers & the Columbine massacre. Maybe his Mom threatened to slap him if he said he enjoyed firing it? "This, children, is what we refer to as a "tool".
"Are you fucking kidding me? Are you hoping he'll turn out gay or docile in an all-guns/all-the-time society? Where was his Father? The guy needs to learn how to shoot guns again just to redeem himself from being the big baby that he is.That rifle butt didn't hit him that hard. Why the fuck didn't he fire it a couple more times? He cried due to the pressure of having a camera in his face & probably people talking about child killers & the Columbine massacre. Maybe his Mom threatened to slap him if he said he enjoyed firing it? "Firstly, fuck your post.
" @Lind_L_Taylor said:"Are you fucking kidding me? Are you hoping he'll turn out gay or docile in an all-guns/all-the-time society? Where was his Father? The guy needs to learn how to shoot guns again just to redeem himself from being the big baby that he is.That rifle butt didn't hit him that hard. Why the fuck didn't he fire it a couple more times? He cried due to the pressure of having a camera in his face & probably people talking about child killers & the Columbine massacre. Maybe his Mom threatened to slap him if he said he enjoyed firing it? "Firstly, fuck your post.Second. He's a kid, someone who has probably never seen a gun let alone fired a gun before in his life. He was given no training, no warning of recoil (Or knowledge of what the recoil is), no understanding of how to react. Oh, and did I mention he was only 9? When you don't expect something coming, then you will be shocked when it happens. The fact that this has to do with guns doesn't help, so obviously you have no god damn idea of what you are talking about.Plus the "where was his father" thing just reminded me of this bullshit notion that a father always knows best, and all know about how to deal with guns and whatnot. It's just stupid, I'm sure Harrison's entire family signed the release and knew what they were getting into."
Hey guy,
Interesting reply. Here are my comments.
First off: FUCK YOU.
Second off, You didn't have a Dad when you grew up? That's your problem. AND IT IS a problem, momma's boy.
Third off, I was his age when I fired a rifle for the first time & I didn't cry like a baby. I hit the target with all 8 bullets we were given.
Fourth off, what the hell is your point? Are you trying to say you're pro gun control?? Or that he can be excused for being a
Momma's boy? Crying after firing a gun at a piece of paper with Ron Jeremy & McCaulie Culken is weak. His Dad wasn't
there because he didn't have a Dad & that's probably part of the problem too. Was he crying when he splattered head
shots in COD4? An AR-15 or whatever it is he fired has little recoil anyway. The kid was a big bawling baby. So what?
Maybe you & he can cry together.
Thanks but no thanks,
LLT.
" @Snipzor said:What is a "dad" to you? Someone who MUST teach you the ins and outs of guns? No, that's idiotic, this isn't the 1950's (OR IS IT I'M REALLY TIRED!) Some people don't have guns, and don't even like guns. When you grow up around a culture of guns, I'm sure as hell you know damn well what would happen once you fired one. I'm also sure as hell they told you how to hold the gun before shooting it. But this kid was put into a foreign situation." @Lind_L_Taylor said:"Are you fucking kidding me? Are you hoping he'll turn out gay or docile in an all-guns/all-the-time society? Where was his Father? The guy needs to learn how to shoot guns again just to redeem himself from being the big baby that he is.That rifle butt didn't hit him that hard. Why the fuck didn't he fire it a couple more times? He cried due to the pressure of having a camera in his face & probably people talking about child killers & the Columbine massacre. Maybe his Mom threatened to slap him if he said he enjoyed firing it? "Firstly, fuck your post.Second. He's a kid, someone who has probably never seen a gun let alone fired a gun before in his life. He was given no training, no warning of recoil (Or knowledge of what the recoil is), no understanding of how to react. Oh, and did I mention he was only 9? When you don't expect something coming, then you will be shocked when it happens. The fact that this has to do with guns doesn't help, so obviously you have no god damn idea of what you are talking about.Plus the "where was his father" thing just reminded me of this bullshit notion that a father always knows best, and all know about how to deal with guns and whatnot. It's just stupid, I'm sure Harrison's entire family signed the release and knew what they were getting into."
Hey guy,
Interesting reply. Here are my comments.
First off: FUCK YOU. Second off, You didn't have a Dad when you grew up? That's your problem. AND IT IS a problem, momma's boy.Third off, I was his age when I fired a rifle for the first time & I didn't cry like a baby. I hit the target with all 8 bullets we were given.Fourth off, what the hell is your point? Are you trying to say you're pro gun control?? Or that he can be excused for being aMomma's boy? Crying after firing a gun at a piece of paper with Ron Jeremy & McCaulie Culken is weak. His Dad wasn'tthere because he didn't have a Dad & that's probably part of the problem too. Was he crying when he splattered headshots in COD4? An AR-15 or whatever it is he fired has little recoil anyway. The kid was a big bawling baby. So what?Maybe you & he can cry together?Thanks but no thanks,LLT. "
" @Arkthemaniac said:HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!Maybe you have no idea what the fuck you're talking about, and he really didn't enjoy it? "And maybe you don't know what the fuck YOU'RE talking about? This is a gun-based society & he'll have to learn sooner or later. Just having him run around like the mind-controlled Alec of A Clockwork Orange, letting anyone do what they want to him because he can't fight back, is no way live. You have to be able to apply force when it's necessary to do so. Recall the phrase: "Give me liberty or give me death". Weapons are a necessary evil. The main point is that you don't use them for cold-blooded murder out of boredom or do something stupid with them. It's about taking responsibility. You're a big boy, I'm sure you can figure this out. "
great episode. i loved when they bashed people like hillary, i cant believe she almost became president. i cant believe she is even in the administration.
" @Big_D said:You're a dumbass." @PureRok said:Are you fucking kidding me? Are you hoping he'll turn out gay or docile in an all-guns/all-the-time society? Where was his Father? The guy needs to learn how to shoot guns again just to redeem himself from being the big baby that he is.That rifle butt didn't hit him that hard. Why the fuck didn't he fire it a couple more times? He cried due to the pressure of having a camera in his face & probably people talking about child killers & the Columbine massacre. Maybe his Mom threatened to slap him if he said he enjoyed firing it? "" @Lind_L_Taylor said:agreed. but at least he won't ever want to fire another gun ever again. "" Man, what a pussy that kid was. I was about his age when the Cub Scouts brought us all out to fire rifles at the firing range. I hit the target & enjoyed it thoroughly.I think that kid cried because everyone put pressure on him & were frowning the whole time. He didn't know how to handle it, so he cried!It doesn't mean that in a few years he doesn't turn out to be a raging psychopath. It could still happen, but not due to video games. It's all mental & shit. "I think he was crying because the butt of the gun hit him in the jaw. The guy didn't have him properly set the butt into his shoulder. "
" @Mac said:You. You always have been." Guys, don't feed the troll. "nyom nyom nyom.....what troll? "
since the youtube vids are gone, I found this link so you can watch it there.
http://www.casttv.com/shows/penn-teller-bullshit/video-games/6uuq0c
These guys are two of the best performers out there; I saw their show in Vegas a few months ago, and its like condensed Bullshit, mostly focused on jackass magicians who claims their tricks are real, with sweet tricks in between.....
Somebody asked about Teller talking-he does talk, just not when visible in the show. Afterwards, you can go shake his hand, and he'll talk to you....
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