Hell no, Call of Duty is way better than that Star Wars shit. I mean, those first two movies were fine but those fucking ewoks ruin the whole thing, and the new movies aren't any better.
" If this is true, it's depressing but I'm not sure if that's worse than people saying it's Lord of the Rings or Harry Potter. I'd rather have my son/daughter idolizing Soap MacTavish than anything Orlando Bloom related. "
I'd be fine if they idolized the Lord of the Rings books.
@TooWalrus said:
" Hell no, Call of Duty is way better than that Star Wars shit. I mean, those first two movies were fine but those fucking ewoks ruin the whole thing, and the new movies aren't any better. "
I don't think I've heard anyone say the new Star Wars movies are better than the old ones.
Jadeskye came the closest to hitting the nail on the head. Harry Potter is the "millennium generations" Star Wars. CoD is this generations Doom or Quake.
@jadeskye: See, you're talking about these things we called the prequels like they actually count as part of the franchise. Listen, when people talk about the old Star Wars trilogy, they mean just that. They're not talking about the shitty prequels (which is, yes, all about lightsabers waving around,) they're talking about the original trilogy. Only three characters even ever really wield a lightsaber in the original trilogy (Han uses it more like a swiss army knife at one point than as a weapon) and the movie is about connecting to the Force around you, a great romance story, and some really, REALLY strong characterization.
Kids did pretend to be Han Solo, Lando Calrissian and Luke Skywalker. Hell, kids nowadays are still sometimes pretending to be Anakin based on the shitty prequels. But nobody's pretending they're Thrall, Master Chief or Captain Price these days...maybe it's because they're aimed at more adult audiences, but that's exactly what made Star Wars such a cultural phenomenon; it's available to all audiences.
The closest thing this generation has to Star Wars is Harry Potter, no question.
" I love people who have overly romantic views of a 33 year old franchise that falls apart the first time you look at it too closely. Yes. I went there. *sunglasses* "
" Um...no? What about Final Fantasy Tactics? That's closer to Star Wars than CoD (mainly because it rips off something that ripped off Star Wars). Or, if you're a purist, what about all those fucking Star Wars games we got? Or the crappy movies? "
" Harry Potter is the Star Wars of our generation. CoD has how many buyers? 15 million? 20 at most? Yeah, Star Wars has been seen by pretty much everyone and has been going over 30 years so they aren't remotely close. The only thing CoD gets close to is Episode 1. "
" I love people who have overly romantic views of a 33 year old franchise that falls apart the first time you look at it too closely. Yes. I went there. *sunglasses* "
I love how you're slating Star Wars but have an Anime boygirl as your avatar with an oversized sword. Anime is for jerks. "
" Um...no? What about Final Fantasy Tactics? That's closer to Star Wars than CoD (mainly because it rips off something that ripped off Star Wars). Or, if you're a purist, what about all those fucking Star Wars games we got? Or the crappy movies? "
I think your missing the point...... "
What's the point? Back to Star Wars, at least the sequels lived up to the first one. (Note: sequels.) How can Modern Warfare 2 belong to this generation when it's thematically another one?
" @jadeskye: See, you're talking about these things we called the prequels like they actually count as part of the franchise. Listen, when people talk about the old Star Wars trilogy, they mean just that. They're not talking about the shitty prequels (which is, yes, all about lightsabers waving around,) they're talking about the original trilogy. Only three characters even ever really wield a lightsaber in the original trilogy (Han uses it more like a swiss army knife at one point than as a weapon) and the movie is about connecting to the Force around you, a great romance story, and some really, REALLY strong characterization. Kids did pretend to be Han Solo, Lando Calrissian and Luke Skywalker. Hell, kids nowadays are still sometimes pretending to be Anakin based on the shitty prequels. But nobody's pretending they're Thrall, Master Chief or Captain Price these days...maybe it's because they're aimed at more adult audiences, but that's exactly what made Star Wars such a cultural phenomenon; it's available to all audiences. The closest thing this generation has to Star Wars is Harry Potter, no question. "
I did specifically specify it was a 33 year old franchise. i include the original trilogy in my OP.
no, i can't see it like that. once there is another hit of a great FPS people are going to forget about modern warfare 2 or cod in general. there is going to be another game that tops the sales of their games. i hate when cocky developers in the industry say things like that. it makes me want to punch them in the face.
@jadeskye: Yes, but what I'm saying is that when people refer to Star Wars as a cultural touchstone, they're really only talking about the stuff that happened up through the 80's. After that, yes, Star Wars became an overblown franchise that seems to do whatever it can to cut its own legs out from under itself. But those original three movies, and the simple toys that came with them? Those were something pretty much all of America got into, and they still to this day have the power to inspire people of all ages.
" I love people who have overly romantic views of a 33 year old franchise that falls apart the first time you look at it too closely. Yes. I went there. *sunglasses* "
MB has been sent to your house and you will be dealt with shortly.
" I love people who have overly romantic views of a 33 year old franchise that falls apart the first time you look at it too closely. Yes. I went there. *sunglasses* "
MB has been sent to your house and you will be dealt with shortly. Thank you for your cooperation. "
" I love people who have overly romantic views of a 33 year old franchise that falls apart the first time you look at it too closely. Yes. I went there. *sunglasses* "
MB has been sent to your house and you will be dealt with shortly. Thank you for your cooperation. "
" I love people who have overly romantic views of a 33 year old franchise that falls apart the first time you look at it too closely. Yes. I went there. *sunglasses* "
MB has been sent to your house and you will be dealt with shortly. Thank you for your cooperation. "
" I love people who have overly romantic views of a 33 year old franchise that falls apart the first time you look at it too closely. Yes. I went there. *sunglasses* "
MB has been sent to your house and you will be dealt with shortly. Thank you for your cooperation. "
:( you're always shitting on me Kane :p "
Talk smack about Star Wars and bad things happen. "
Well lets get it all out in the open then! I also thought the Godfather wasn't that great.
" Harry Potter is the Star Wars of our generation. CoD has how many buyers? 15 million? 20 at most? Yeah, Star Wars has been seen by pretty much everyone and has been going over 30 years so they aren't remotely close. The only thing CoD gets close to is Episode 1. "
This was my first reaction, too. Star Wars is more than just a collection of movies. The real money is in the merchandising! Harry Potter is everywhere and on everything. Books, movies, comics, toys, clothing, school materials, lunch boxes, Halloween costumes, etc... What has COD been on? Some crappy night vision glasses? Potter burrows its way into every part of your life without you even knowing it. Hell, there was a Harry Potter candy fashioned after the magical candy in the books. If Activision was serious about turning COD into a true pop culture monument, you'd think they'd at least put out some "Soap" MacTavish soap-on-a-rope. Something to expand the franchise beyond its roots. That's what Star Wars did and it's what Harry Potter did to keep our collective memories focused on the next big offering.
" I love people who have overly romantic views of a 33 year old franchise that falls apart the first time you look at it too closely. Yes. I went there. *sunglasses* "
MB has been sent to your house and you will be dealt with shortly. Thank you for your cooperation. "
:( you're always shitting on me Kane :p "
Talk smack about Star Wars and bad things happen. "
Well lets get it all out in the open then! I also thought the Godfather wasn't that great. "
"No..you're all wrong. Too Human is the closest thing we have to star wars on consoles. It's an epic tale of love, hate and betrayal...the first in the series took forever to be released and it was passable at best...but wait for episode V. That's when things get good. "
" @RivaOni: That's right. Not to mention that the whole M.O of this generation seems to take what was popular when I was a kid and "reimagine" it. G.I Joe, Transformers, I'm drawing a blank on more examples, but you get my point. "
Completely agree. But as long as they don't touch Jace and the Wheeled Warriors, M.A.S.K. and Thundercats I'll be happy. I can ignore GI Joe (wasn't that big in the UK anyway afaik) and the Michael Bay Transformers and bring my daughter (currently 6) watching the original Transformers ;) "
I think M.A.S.K would make a kick ass pop corn action flick, even if Micheal Bay directed it...
Fuck activision. They don't understand that pulling of shit like this and saying they want MMO style subscriptions for COD online play is actually going to be their downfall someday.
I say the Lord Of The Rings trilogy does, but why someone even attempts to compare movies to video games is beyond me. This just in: Movies are not video games! Minds are blown!
Minimizing the significance of Star Wars, the original movies not the recent drivel, is simply stupid. You may as well minimize the significance of the combustion engine or suspension bridges. Granted, they are no big deal now but they are pretty damn significant nonetheless . I can understand why most kids that are too young to appreciate that wouldn't see it, but that makes it no less true. Kotick's statement is inane even for him but I expect nothing less from this guy. Clearly he loves the attention and sadly, he always gets it.
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