Removing the rate-post function?

Honestly, does anyone that isn't a troll use this?  Countless topics have posts that are arbitrarily "negged" by trolls until you have to "reveal post" to see them. But here's the kicker, the reveal function doesn't work! D:

Even if we had a working "reveal post" button, what is the purpose in rating them in the first place? If the post contains something inappropriate or offensive, PM a mod to take care of it. Or include a "report post" button that if clicked, let's say 5 times, will alert a mod. This could be abused as well, but at least the posts won't disappear.

Am I the only one who wants this to go the way of the dodo?

No, you're not. The staff seems reluctant to remove it though. Snide offered up a solution of only letting you rate once per IP address, but that's easily circumvented for real trolls and it doesn't help group trolling either. Both post counts (who really cares who is a top poster?) and the rating system need to be downplayed hugely or removed entirely.

But here's the kicker, the reveal function doesn't work! D:

I agree but at the same time it would be beneficial to have a positive from a post with a high score - that being said im gonna give you a minus 1 rating just for the hell of it hehe ... j/k

a report post would be extremely beneficial though - odd thing is that really the normal users should be - rating the trolls or a rating of -5 or lower doesn't hide a post but alerts the mods. I don't think removing it is the solution I think changing what it does is.

I'm ok with it so far.  I use it on posts I think are offensive or in some way inappropriate.

The "Notify Moderator" thing only works on the top post in a thread.  For the rest of replies, all negatively rating them does is hide them from view.

The rating system keeps being abused, I agree that a "report post" would be better. People are using the rating post system like youtube. It's not for agreeing or disagreeing with someone, but people are using it as so. 

"I'm ok with it so far.  I use it on posts I think are offensive or in some way inappropriate.

To be fair, the community here is good and I don't think I've used it more than a small handful of times.

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"BiggerBomb said:

But here's the kicker, the reveal function doesn't work! D:

You must be using Internet Explorer."

"MB said:

"BiggerBomb said:

But here's the kicker, the reveal function doesn't work! D:

You must be using Internet Explorer."

I'm using the most widley used browser, that's a bad thing? It also doesn't work on AOL explorer. Anyway, as I said, even with a functioning "reveal post" button there is still no point in post-rating. Jayge is right, the solution Snide offered only prevents people who aren't actually trolls from utilizing the system. Actual trolls have 10 different accounts.

Who's with me?! (Aside from the above posters)"

/nod

If you insist on using Internet Explorer, you're going to have nothing but problems with this site.  If you don't want to wait for those sorts of bugs to be fixed, use Firefox.  After a week you will  never want to go back to IE again.

it works fine. anyone saying different just had a pointless hateful post tminused. *looks at jayge*

I don't really see a big issue. But then again my reveal function works fine and the fact that some posts get trolled by being rated down doesn't really matter to me.

"If you insist on using Internet Explorer, you're going to have nothing but problems with this site.  If you don't want to wait for those sorts of bugs to be fixed, use Firefox.  After a week you will  never want to go back to IE again."

Okay, I'm a Firefox user, but telling people "This site is never going to work right for you because you use the most widely-used browser in the world" isn't really a great response to a problem.

"it works fine. anyone saying different just had a pointless hateful post tminused. *looks at jayge*"

"I don't really see a big issue. But then again my reveal function works fine and the fact that some posts get trolled by being rated down doesn't really matter to me."

BiggerBomb said:

"MB said:

"If you insist on using Internet Explorer, you're going to have nothing but problems with this site.  If you don't want to wait for those sorts of bugs to be fixed, use Firefox.  After a week you will  never want to go back to IE again."

I actually love Internet Explorer. Telling people "if you don't like a major issue on this site, switch from the most popular browser. Otherwise, don't complain." is absolutely ridiculous. If a game crashes on the PC, but runs smoothly on a Mac, the developer doesnt say "get a Mac or stop complaining." This should either be fixed or removed. It's a real pain in the ass."

Sadly browser Nazi-ism is becoming more and more prominent (ooh goodwins). I agree that the rating system is stupid but on the plus side it isn't abused like it is on youtube, nor are our commenters quite so stupid.

The rating system is fine, IMO. I can see how it could be abused, but I haven't seen many real examples of misuse. I see the occasional post commented down because that particular user is saying something ridiculous, but I can't say I have seen much spiteful use of the system. I would want it to stay, for the time being at least.

I find it both hilarious and annoying as hell that every post was negged here.

"but I haven't seen many real examples of misuse."

"The rating system is fine, IMO. I can see how it could be abused, but I haven't seen many real examples of misuse. I see the occasional post commented down because that particular user is saying something ridiculous, but I can't say I have seen much spiteful use of the system. I would want it to stay, for the time being at least."

"The rating system keeps being abused, I agree that a "report post" would be better. People are using the rating post system like youtube. It's not for agreeing or disagreeing with someone, but people are using it as so. "

I actually love Internet Explorer. Telling people "if you don't like a major issue on this site, switch from the most popular browser. Otherwise, don't complain." is absolutely ridiculous. If a game crashes on the PC, but runs smoothly on a Mac, the developer doesnt say "get a Mac or stop complaining." This should either be fixed or removed. It's a real pain in the ass."

This thread is a big glaring example of why the rating system is  trash.

"BiggerBomb said"

I actually love Internet Explorer. Telling people "if you don't like a major issue on this site, switch from the most popular browser. Otherwise, don't complain." is absolutely ridiculous. If a game crashes on the PC, but runs smoothly on a Mac, the developer doesnt say "get a Mac or stop complaining." This should either be fixed or removed. It's a real pain in the ass."

Take it easy.  I don't really care which browser you use, but I offered you a solution for a specific complaint you had about the site.  it's up to you if you want to continue using a browser that has serious issues with Giant  Bomb.  Until the bugs get fixed, you can either continue using a browser which doesn't really work correctly here, or switch."

I agree, people abouse this system and rate down every post they dont agree with, which is stupid as hell.

I'm honestly not a huge fan of the rate tool, and it doesn't really keep people from spamming "that sucks" or "YEAH" like it's supposed to. people want credit for their opinions, even if they suck. lol.

Anyway, now that this thread has actually become an example of such bombing (and also a great example of the community trying to rectify such actions, although not as succesfully as a full fix), I think anyone arguing that they don't see it or haven't seen it needs to reconsider.

I think that the rating bombing was done as a joke - a pretty funny one actually

meh stop complaining. for everyone who nedlessly -1s there are 3 other people who can +1 if they see fit

I like the system because a large number of my inane, inconsequential observations end up getting +10.

"BiggerBomb said"

I actually love Internet Explorer. Telling people "if you don't like a major issue on this site, switch from the most popular browser. Otherwise, don't complain." is absolutely ridiculous. If a game crashes on the PC, but runs smoothly on a Mac, the developer doesnt say "get a Mac or stop complaining." This should either be fixed or removed. It's a real pain in the ass."

Take it easy.  I don't really care which browser you use, but I offered you a solution for a specific complaint you had about the site.  it's up to you if you want to continue using a browser that has serious issues with Giant  Bomb.  Until the bugs get fixed, you can either keep using a browser which doesn't work correctly here, or switch."

"I think that the rating bombing was done as a joke - a pretty funny one actually"

"The Bomb complies with Web Standards and so it works best in Standards-Based browsers (Firefox, Safari, Opera, WebKit, Chrome etc.). That's all MB is saying."

rating system is fine.

except for jayge, 5 people follow him around the forums and rate him down.

"rating system is fine.

except for jayge, 5 people follow him around the forums and rate him down."

"Cunts like him deserve it. ill give him a neg everytime i see him Naggin and Bitching"

woah. all this over the rating system? 

Knock off the petty bickering, people. 

THIS! This is the exact reason why this shit needs to go. Why have a function that does nothing but hurt this website? It is in no way beneficial, no one uses it for the purpose it's there for and no one ever will.

Is there actually a reason why this has to be here? Or are the mods just trying to flex their muscles by not listening to us?

My assertion was that the whole thing was lame. Much as yours is MB

Or are the mods just trying to flex their muscles by not listening to us?"

"it works fine. anyone saying different just had a pointless hateful post tminused. *looks at jayge*"

"Knock off the petty bickering, people. "

"BiggerBomb said:

Or are the mods just trying to flex their muscles by not listening to us?"

What do you mean by that?"

I was not bickering, or even being petty. I was calling attention to the fact that someone was abusing the rating system in the middle of a thread about rating system abuse, although you've gone and deleted the examples now. I don't know what purpose that was supposed to serve; many more deleteable posts have gone unmoderated. If staff were looking for any perfect picture of how the occurrence plays out and the reasons people do it, it was right there. Now it's gone."

"No...all of the negatively rated posts are gone because other people rated them higher to counteract the negative ratings."

"No, you're not. The staff seems reluctant to remove it though. Snide offered up a solution of only letting you rate once per IP address, but that's easily circumvented for real trolls and it doesn't help group trolling either. Both post counts (who really cares who is a top poster?) and the rating system need to be downplayed hugely or removed entirely."

What does that have to do with anything."

i got -8 for supporting jayge.

Thats unheard of.

I think he has a case.