So giantbomb says jrpgs are dead...

" @Detrian said:

" @sixghost said:

It's certainly not an item shop sim where you occasionally enter a dungeon for 5 minutes every hour. Even the tiny bit of combat that you do has nothing in common with JRPGs. Just because the characters and dialogue are inspired by the JRPG style, it doesn't mean the game is one. "

Well for starters why are you lying? Every dungeon past the first two take at least half an hour to complete, more like an hour or so.   Second, I don't think you quite understand that the definition of jrpg is just "rpg made in japan". "

lol, what? If a team in Japan made Baldur's Gate, it wouldn't be considered a JRPG. I suppose you also think every game in which you "play a role" is a RPG? "

" @sixghost said:

" @Detrian said:

" @sixghost said:

It's certainly not an item shop sim where you occasionally enter a dungeon for 5 minutes every hour. Even the tiny bit of combat that you do has nothing in common with JRPGs. Just because the characters and dialogue are inspired by the JRPG style, it doesn't mean the game is one. "

Well for starters why are you lying? Every dungeon past the first two take at least half an hour to complete, more like an hour or so.   Second, I don't think you quite understand that the definition of jrpg is just "rpg made in japan". "

lol, what? If a team in Japan made Baldur's Gate, it wouldn't be considered a JRPG. I suppose you also think every game in which you "play a role" is a RPG? "

What kind of dumb hypothetical is this? If Baldur's gate was made in japan it would not be anything like Baldur gate and it WOULD be a jrpg. Meanwhile  Recettear has a bunch of character development, equipment and leveling. I think you've just been dumb and paid off your debt with just trading while completely ignoring meeting characters and progressing through the second half of the game. "

" Nier "

" @Jeust said:

" Nier "

You mean the game that Joystiq found so frustrating that they gave up on reviewing it? That game? "

It has all been downhill since Super Mario RPG on the SNES.

Every time I read this thread title I actually read, 
 
"So giantbomb says jpegs are dead..." 
 
and get confused for a half a second.

There are a bunch of good looking JRPG's coming out in 2011, its just that the Giant Bomb staff couldn't give a shit about any of them.

"  @Jeust said: 

" Nier "

You mean the game that Joystiq found so frustrating that they gave up on reviewing it? That game? "

sometimes i just dip into psx jrpg back catalog  
and then i get some snacks 
and i am like 
yes 
childhood 
and then i play for a few hours  
and i am like  
"n...no!!"

Eternal Sonata is a good game worth playing.

The only JRPGs I can stand are Persona and Pokemon. So... portables-only (so far).

Stagnant is the word I'd use, rather than dead. 
There's still some good ones out there but on the whole it's become a rather "meh" genre for me. 
 
The Last Story is about the only one I've had any real interest in now that Golden Sun Dark Dawn is out.. 
Rather disappointed to hear that it won't be getting an English release.  Oh well.

Mistwalker should make a new JRPG. They know what they're doing.

Think they meant to say dead and boring and not needed and recycled and trash.

Mother 3 was excellent. 
 
Other than that, the genre needs to die. Its always just the same anime steampunk/futuristic rehashed nonsense.

Plenty of great JRPGs across all systems this gen. In the west the genre has completely fallen out of favor with the press so they hardly get any coverage anymore. Same thing happened to Adventure and RTS games, which once were on the top of the gaming world and are now only glanced at, even though these genres still exist and thrive.

" Mother 3 was excellent.  Other than that, the genre needs to die. Its always just the same anime steampunk/futuristic rehashed nonsense. "

Nah,It just needs a workover.

I hate to say it they might be right. In the last five years what was the biggest JRPG release on this current generation of consoles ?  I loved Final Fantasy 13 but it seems to be a losing battle to defend it so why bother.   There are only 2 other JRPGs this generation I really loved compared to the dozen or more I loved on each of the previous consoles I owned.    I think the Japanese themselves in general don't give a shit about this generation of consoles.  The fact that they released Dragon Quest 9 on the DS instead of a console pretty much says it all.

" As a big fan of the genre I wanted to disagree but then I realized that I have only played one this generation, and while Lost Odyssey was great, that is not enough to declare a genre alive. However I am sure that there are other that I simply missed playing.  My question to you is are there any other current gen jrpgs worth playing? "

" Mother 3 was excellent.  Other than that, the genre needs to die. Its always just the same anime steampunk/futuristic rehashed nonsense. "

Well considering at least 6 of the top 30 games in the Japanese chart for the week ending Jan 2nd were JRPGs I'd say no. 
It's the equivalent of saying that FPS games are dead because they aren't as popular in Japan as they are in the West, and that the critics in Japan prefer RPGs.
 
As for good games, Tales of Vesperia, Resonance of Fate, Eternal Sonata and I suppose Valkyria Chronicles 1 and 2 could come under this definition. Throw in P3P, any of the Etrian Odyssey games, ZHP, any of the SRW games (apart from K) and some of the Ys games and you have a pretty broad spectrum.

Tales of Vespaira 
 
I played this game to death and still regret trading it in after completing it because I would quite happily play through it again and again.

Just in the last year I've been really impressed by Nier and Resonance of Fate, but they both fell right under the radar so I can see how someone looking in on the genre might think there's nothing special going on.

They seem alive and well on the handheld systems so...no.