I wasn't a gamer. You all know that. I was a comic book nerd from Comic Vine who occasionally dabled in Zelda and SSB's Melee and Brawl. I know my Batman and Spider-man and X-men and the beloved Madame Mirage front to back, up to down. But video games? A taboo area for girls. Up until a few years ago, it's been a "boys club" that a few girls sneak into every so often thanks to older brothers or Star Wars Obsessed Boyfriends. But then you get the crazy girls. And this next part is my reflection from a review of Raychel Moore's blog.
OH EM GEE, Becky, I like, totally PWNED you
Okay. Do you see this magazine? This is why I hate the clique of girl gamers. Because I don't want to see some plastic girl playing a pink video game. i mean, go google "girl gamer" on google. It looks like This. I could care less. This kind of thing only increases the distance between girl gamers and boy gamers. Boys like one thing, so give 'em Call of Duty, girls like the other, so give them Princes Debut. Eff that. Understandably, the industry wants to profit and uses gender roles to get that money. Fine. Do your thing. But don't generalize. Give me a magazine with a nerdy girl on it who plays real games.
Alright. Now that I've said that. I need to confront the issue of crazy, backstabbing girls. Now, personally, I haven't seen any on GB, mostly because Brukaoru is the only girl I've seen who has stuck around longer than two weeks. But go play WoW-- wait. no, don't do that. Watch this:
Raychel Moore attributes this to the territorial "attention whores" that troll the internet. "Who are these whores?" you ask? Well they're the girls who game to get into that "boys club". The girls who think being a girl gamer will get them points with the boys, and boost their self esteem. This usually means that when another girl joins, cat fights ensue. "THESE R MAI BOYS, BACK OFF HOE". MARTHA MARTHA MARTHA
Now, my lovely bombers, I have a confession. I love your attention, and nothing can cheer me up more than getting on the IRC and saying "i've had a bad day *frowny face*". But listen, and listen well: I'm not gonna show you my boobs, not now, not ever Casey. I don't thrive on hearing "omgz it's a girl, ToGTFO". nah. eff that. Some of my favorite compliments are when a newbie posts "yeah, Virago's a cool guy. He knows what he's talking about". That doesn't mean boys are better, it just means I don't sound like another IC9.
To conclude, I don't care if you think I'm a chick or not (yeah, you know who you are), nor will I try to prove to you that I'm a hardcore gamer (because lets face it... I'm not). But I do love video games because they're fun. Some are even artistic (more on that HERE) and make you use your head for more than just a hat stand.
So for all of you who read my lovely wall of text, I shake your hand, and give you a less than three. Especially my stalker, Ron Jeremy.
I wasn't a gamer. You all know that. I was a comic book nerd from Comic Vine who occasionally dabled in Zelda and SSB's Melee and Brawl. I know my Batman and Spider-man and X-men and the beloved Madame Mirage front to back, up to down. But video games? A taboo area for girls. Up until a few years ago, it's been a "boys club" that a few girls sneak into every so often thanks to older brothers or Star Wars Obsessed Boyfriends. But then you get the crazy girls. And this next part is my reflection from a review of Raychel Moore's blog.
OH EM GEE, Becky, I like, totally PWNED you
Okay. Do you see this magazine? This is why I hate the clique of girl gamers. Because I don't want to see some plastic girl playing a pink video game. i mean, go google "girl gamer" on google. It looks like This. I could care less. This kind of thing only increases the distance between girl gamers and boy gamers. Boys like one thing, so give 'em Call of Duty, girls like the other, so give them Princes Debut. Eff that. Understandably, the industry wants to profit and uses gender roles to get that money. Fine. Do your thing. But don't generalize. Give me a magazine with a nerdy girl on it who plays real games.
Alright. Now that I've said that. I need to confront the issue of crazy, backstabbing girls. Now, personally, I haven't seen any on GB, mostly because Brukaoru is the only girl I've seen who has stuck around longer than two weeks. But go play WoW-- wait. no, don't do that. Watch this:
Raychel Moore attributes this to the territorial "attention whores" that troll the internet. "Who are these whores?" you ask? Well they're the girls who game to get into that "boys club". The girls who think being a girl gamer will get them points with the boys, and boost their self esteem. This usually means that when another girl joins, cat fights ensue. "THESE R MAI BOYS, BACK OFF HOE". MARTHA MARTHA MARTHA
Now, my lovely bombers, I have a confession. I love your attention, and nothing can cheer me up more than getting on the IRC and saying "i've had a bad day *frowny face*". But listen, and listen well: I'm not gonna show you my boobs, not now, not ever Casey. I don't thrive on hearing "omgz it's a girl, ToGTFO". nah. eff that. Some of my favorite compliments are when a newbie posts "yeah, Virago's a cool guy. He knows what he's talking about". That doesn't mean boys are better, it just means I don't sound like another IC9.
To conclude, I don't care if you think I'm a chick or not (yeah, you know who you are), nor will I try to prove to you that I'm a hardcore gamer (because lets face it... I'm not). But I do love video games because they're fun. Some are even artistic (more on that HERE) and make you use your head for more than just a hat stand.
So for all of you who read my lovely wall of text, I shake your hand, and give you a less than three. Especially my stalker, Ron Jeremy.
Endogene- I'm surprised that you of all people don't know what Gaia Online is.
I remember some gaiafag was like "can you check if its up?" on Off Topic like 3 months ago, and I segwayed it by trying to convince him that it was the worst website of all time. That led to him getting so angry that he spammed the board with gay porn, and then got perma-banned. Amazing.
It's all stereotypical. If you are a female who plays games, you are automatically assumed to like girly games. If females play "real" games (I don't consider games like the "Imagine" series to be real games), we are presumed to be wanting attention. I don't want attention, I just want to play games. I don't want pink consoles, I don't want girly games. I hate when developers like Ubisoft feel the need to create special games just to target the female audience. I hate games that cater to one gender.
Yes, there are some females who just want attention, that's part of their personality. There are people who beg for attention, male and female, it's very silly to judge all female gamers based on the few who just want to be noticed. Although I really hate these female-only clans popping up everywhere now, I can see why so many of them are being created. Female gamers are trying to get out their feelings that they play real games too, and they want developers to know that we don't want games that only target our gender. I just hope in the future, developers realize that females are playing the same games that they think will only appeal to males and understand that they don't need to create "special" games just for us.
Also, that Nintendo magazine advertisement is hilarious. Great find.
What a coincidence that you happen to mention the "Imagine" franshise. It has some pretty good games actually. Ubisoft only published those games under the imagine name, they are all developed by separate studios.
Yeah it's stupid stereotyping girls who play games, or girls or listen to heavy metal or anything else like that. But I would still like to meet a girl who is into the same games as me, all the girls I know go : your an idiot with no life. when I tell them what I do in my spare time.
"What a coincidence that you happen to mention the "Imagine" franshise. It has some pretty good games actually. Ubisoft only published those games under the imagine name, they are all developed by separate studios."
I don't know whether I should be congratulating you for playing the Imagine games or creeped out that you actually think they are good... :S SuperMooseman said:
"It's not an advert. That Girl Gamer 'magazine' is a pull-out insert that can be found in UK girls magazines; I think in Bliss/Sugar/whatever they're called."
I used the wrong word, I should have said cover. It's so ridiculous, it's funny.
Jayge said:
"You heard it here first- Brukaoru: The Attention Whore Saga. >.> <.< I'm so going to get kicked in the nuts."
HEY JAYGE, WHY HAVEN'T YOU SENT ME A MESSAGE ON XBL YET?!?! ARE YOU TALKING TO SOME OTHER GIRLS?!?! I SHOULD BE THE ONLY GIRL YOU TALK TO!!10101 DON'T U WANT TO PLAY BARBIE'S HORSE ADVENTURES WITH ME?!?!
"HEY JAYGE, WHY HAVEN'T YOU SENT ME A MESSAGE ON XBL YET?!?! ARE YOU TALKING TO SOME OTHER GIRLS?!?! I SHOULD BE THE ONLY GIRL YOU TALK TO!!10101 DON'T U WANT TO PLAY BARBIE'S HORSE ADVENTURES WITH ME?!?!"
"It's all stereotypical. If you are a female who plays games, you are automatically assumed to like girly games. If females play "real" games (I don't consider games like the "Imagine" series to be real games), we are presumed to be wanting attention. I don't want attention, I just want to play games. I don't want pink consoles, I don't want girly games. I hate when developers like Ubisoft feel the need to create special games just to target the female audience. I hate games that cater to one gender.
Yes, there are some females who just want attention, that's part of their personality. There are people who beg for attention, male and female, it's very silly to judge all female gamers based on the few who just want to be noticed. Although I really hate these female-only clans popping up everywhere now, I can see why so many of them are being created. Female gamers are trying to get out their feelings that they play real games too, and they want developers to know that we don't want games that only target our gender. I just hope in the future, developers realize that females are playing the same games that they think will only appeal to males and understand that they don't need to create "special" games just for us.
Also, that Nintendo magazine advertisement is hilarious. Great find."
OMG ANOTHER ONE.
THEY ARE EVERYWHERE. EVERYONE GET OUT YOUR MASCULINITY QUICK!
I said something along these lines a previous topic, but the reply was a day late, so you I guess I didn't expect you to see it. Anyways, if you don't want attention, and you don't want 'girl' games, then what the fuck are you rambling on about? If you're content with Gears, Halo, or whatever crap you like to play, then why do you feel the need to bitch? Or do you want them to add a female protagonist.. when you just said you didn't want them to target women.
I have no fucking idea where you're going with this.. do you want companies to stop producing good-selling shovel ware games? Is that you're one complaint? Because that's just fucking ridiculous. They make money, and companies will produce them for that. Just as males, no one is forcing you to buy them. Companies will make them, because they sell, and 'real gamers' won't buy them. End of story.
I said something along these lines a previous topic, but the reply was a day late, so you I guess I didn't expect you to see it. Anyways, if you don't want attention, and you don't want 'girl' games, then what the fuck are you rambling on about? If you're content with Gears, Halo, or whatever crap you like to play, then why do you feel the need to bitch? Or do you want them to add a female protagonist.. when you just said you didn't want them to target women.
I have no fucking idea where you're going with this.. do you want companies to stop producing good-selling shovel ware games? Is that you're one complaint? Because that's just fucking ridiculous. They make money, and companies will produce them for that. Just as males, no one is forcing you to buy them. Companies will make them, because they sell, and 'real gamers' won't buy them. End of story. "
I'm guessing she dislikes her demographic being consistently exploited in terms of advertising (falsely) and it irks her that stereotypes the game communities may be attempting to reform are consistently upheld by the industry itself, and are stagnant because of that.
"I'm guessing she dislikes her demographic being consistently exploited in terms of advertising (falsely) and it irks her that stereotypes the game communities may be attempting to reform are consistently upheld by the industry itself, and are stagnant because of that."
Well it's not as if males aren't targeted to like GI Joe and Captain Planet. Just because you're a tomboy doesn't mean you should ask for a whole social reform. If you like Halo and Gears, then like Halo and Gears. No ones stoping you. Should girls stop playing with Barbies now too, just because you don't like them?
"I said something along these lines a previous topic, but the reply was a day late, so you I guess I didn't expect you to see it. Anyways, if you don't want attention, and you don't want 'girl' games, then what the fuck are you rambling on about? If you're content with Gears, Halo, or whatever crap you like to play, then why do you feel the need to bitch? Or do you want them to add a female protagonist.. when you just said you didn't want them to target women.
I have no fucking idea where you're going with this.. do you want companies to stop producing good-selling shovel ware games? Is that you're one complaint? Because that's just fucking ridiculous. They make money, and companies will produce them for that. Just as males, no one is forcing you to buy them. Companies will make them, because they sell, and 'real gamers' won't buy them. End of story."
I rather have a male protagonist than a female protagonist actually. I'm quite content with Gears and other games. And I didn't know I was "bitching," I simply stated that I hate games that cater to one gender. I didn't know I wasn't allowed to dislike something... It's an opinion, calm down.
I realize that crap like that sells, just like other shovel ware games. I didn't say they were forcing me to buy them either. It's more so that I hate the general view of female gamers in the industry, which is why those games are created. Even women who work in the industry are stereotyped.
Also, last time I checked this was a forum where we can share our thoughts and feelings on something. I guess I should just shut the hell up and go in the kitchen next time, sorry about that.
Jayge said:
"I'm guessing she dislikes her demographic being consistently exploited in terms of advertising (falsely) and it irks her that stereotypes the game communities may be attempting to reform are consistently upheld by the industry itself, and are stagnant because of that."
I'm surprised there's not more female solidarity. I can understand the fighting only if the guy is a RL or in-game boyfriend (then only "pretend mad"). Aren't there enough guys to go around in those things? Are there people out there that want online relationships so badly?
>Games for girls
It seems there are games for little girls, like Barbie, then maybe Nancy Drew, but then for adults, it just seems to be "games anyone can play." I'd like to see more games like Saints Row, where you can play a male or female or in between rather than GTA, where the leads are all males (given they both have the same "quality").
yessum little lady the are...I have posted a blog since the update that didn't go on the forums. I basically just refreshed my page without picking a forum.
"I guess I should just shut the hell up and go in the kitchen next time, sorry about that.
Way to exaggerate. I'm arguing with you like anyone else. And I don't know why you have to think they cater to one gender. You're living proof that pink doesn't = women. I played Princess Debut, Endogene just said Imagine games aren't that bad - we're both males. So just because you dislike like something, doesn't mean everyone else does.
"I guess I should just shut the hell up and go in the kitchen next time, sorry about that.
Way to exaggerate. I'm arguing with you like anyone else. And I don't know why you have to think they cater to one gender. You're living proof that pink = women. I played Princess Debut, Endogene just said Imagine games aren't that bad - we're both males. So just because you dislike like something, doesn't mean everyone else does. "
I don't understand how you got to that statement...please elaborate.
"Way to exaggerate. I'm arguing with you like anyone else. And I don't know why you have to think they cater to one gender. You're living proof that pink doesn't = women. I played Princess Debut, Endogene just said Imagine games aren't that bad - we're both males. So just because you dislike like something, doesn't mean everyone else does."
Sorry, I didn't know you normally came off so brash. Just got a little defensive. Of course there are people who like those games, and that's cool. I just don't like that when some people hear the words "female gamer," they automatically assume that they play a certain list of games that all happen to be "girly". So yeah, perhaps it's not the games themselves that I hate, but the stereotype surrounding them.
I hate how male gamers get stereotyped into all loving FPS action games with killing and big guns. I want a pony game aimed to deliver the awesome experience of owning my very own special little pony, my little pony, where we can ride off into the sunset with John Wayne and sing songs about sleeping under the stars.
I also think female gamers, i refuse to say girl gamers the phrase annoys me, get a negative stereotype or sometimes undue attention because there is always that slutty girl online who totally abuses her boob privileges to get free loot in Raids and group quests on MMO's. Then there is the fact that boobs are essentially every mans Kryptonite so the moment we find out a girl is playing on the same server as us people go nuts.
Plus the games industry just loves to stereotype their audiences by providing "female orientated games and gaming apparatus" like a pink DS. I mean you can understand why they do it because there is always a large portion of the gaming community thats female but very casual so they buy up those "female orientated" products. But there is also a huge number of female gamers out there who keep their gender hidden and enjoy the exact same games and style of gaming culture that guys do. Just look at the FragDolls.
"I hate how male gamers get stereotyped into all loving FPS action games with killing and big guns. I want a pony game aimed to deliver the awesome experience of owning my very own special little pony, my little pony, where we can ride off into the sunset with John Wayne and sing songs about sleeping under the stars.
Just goes to show you, "Girl" of some form in a thread will draw 30+ replies. I do hate the girl gamer stereotype. A lot of them can kick my ass, and it's not because they are using a pink DS' or wearing excessive make-up and in their free time play Nintendogs.
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