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#1 Posted by chulomex3_basic (16 posts) -
Sales?

Games?

Market share?

A combination of 2 or 3?

#2 Posted by Apollo (471 posts) -

How did they determine it last time?

#3 Posted by Locke (330 posts) -

No. Please. This isn't system wars.

#4 Posted by Absinthetic (172 posts) -

all of them

but why does that matter?

#5 Posted by TheSnakeOfWar (72 posts) -

Well Last Time The PS2 was destroying the competion in sales wise and had the games to back it up for all demographic whether it was GTA, MGS, Gran Turismo, Eye Toy, Buzz or resident evil.

This Generation I say we will decide a winner on what each console contrubites to us the gamer.
PS3 -Blue Ray, PSN, Internet, Home, MGS4 and high Quality games
360 - Xbox Live,MarketPlace, High Quality Games
Wii -New Audiance, Motion Senising, Shovelware

#6 Posted by chulomex3_basic (16 posts) -
Last time it was the sheer number of games and owners of the PS2.
#7 Posted by OGCartman (4354 posts) -

PLEASE! NO! Go argue with the fanboys in SW on Gamespot if you want a thread like this
I dont mean to be rude

#8 Edited by crusader8463 (14413 posts) -

who is left standing with the biggest bag of cash. Or left standing period i guess. My self though i look at it as who gave me the most hours of pure fun. And so far PC has won every time since i got one back in 1998.

#9 Posted by mordukai (7133 posts) -

Ohh gods please! not a System Wars thread. 

#10 Posted by ArbitraryWater (11471 posts) -

Hey look, it's a new user who is posting flame bait! Haven't seen this before....

#11 Posted by Ultimasta (9 posts) -

Honestly, i think it's all coming down to your own opinion this time. They're all different enough to not be compared by sales or the like. they all sort of appeal to different audiences. I think it's less of a war and more of a diplomatic cease fire for now. PS2 was very outrightly dominant last generation. This time the winner is chosen by whatever you like the most yourself.

#12 Posted by Ineedaname (4319 posts) -

I vote personal preference.

#13 Edited by Absurd (2934 posts) -

Noone will have win, except for the consumer.

#14 Posted by oldschool (7264 posts) -

Welcome to Club Sensitive  :-)


The winner is determined by the personal bias of the individual.  Everyone knows it is the Wii, but shhhhhh, if you say that around here, you get flamed.

I say the Sega Mega Drive will win - great new hardware and a great established library.
#15 Posted by The_A_Drain (3910 posts) -
@chulomex3_basic said:
"Last time it was the sheer number of games and owners of the PS2."
Only because the Dreamcast was dead and the Xbox had very little going for it at all. It was just assumed to be the PS2 by default. There was no, and nor will there ever be any 'official' winner to a generation of consoles.

The winner will be whichever one you like the most at the end of it. Or, if you're at all logical, whichever one made the biggest percentage of gross profit. So it's looking like the Wii.
#16 Posted by Sick_J0ke (170 posts) -

I hate system wars... it's just a showcase of people insecurities and why they need to prove to themselves more than anyone else as to why their system is the best because they don't want to think they spent money on it unless it's the ABSOLUTE best console there is for that generation. 


But to answer your question it depends... this generation of consoles has a long way to go. Below are my personal opinions of the consoles since I own an Xbox 360 and my roommates have the Wii and PS3 so I'm going to give you a non-biased  rundown of the good and bads of each console. 

  • Wii: Has sold the most amount of consoles but it's game library is starting to slag. It's main attribute was the wii mote, but it doesn't fulfill the attributes of a gaming system for gamers. It's really good though because it's extended itself to a broader audience beyond gamers so it'll sell well regardless. 
  • Xbox 360: Great game library, good features, it's only problem is alot of the consoles sold have hardware issues (RROD, overheating, etc.) Also the games are only dvd format so the 360's full potential hasn't been tapped yet. My  guess is in a few years they're gonna release a new type of 360 with a bigger harddrive, all the hardware problems solved, and probably just have you install very large games to the hdd so you won't have to play 6 cd's if they choose to make very high quality games (one of the reasons MGS4 can't be ported to 360 is because it would take 5-6 discs). 
  • PS3: Had a very VERY rough start. The games which came out for it during launch left much to be desired. Along with the high price, this acted as a huge deterent for those wanting to buy a PS3. However, the games have gotten much much better and it's library is almost on par with Xbox 360's. Also the system is the most powerful of the 3 in every aspect of hardware. It's capable of ALOT and if that potentials tapped it can compete against the other 2 systems without any problems. 

So yea that's my take on it. Personally I don't know who's going to "win" the console wars and I really don't care, I love playing my Xbox 360 and I don't need any reassurance to enjoy it. 

#17 Posted by bwooduhs (1616 posts) -

If by sales Nintendo would definitly win but i don't even consider them a part of the race anymore because there aiming at a different demographic. But for 360 vs PS3 it will be a mixture of games and sales.

#18 Posted by Emilio (3380 posts) -

It has always been console sales.

#19 Posted by oldschool (7264 posts) -
@Sick_J0ke said:
" I hate system wars... it's just a showcase of people insecurities and why they need to prove to themselves more than anyone else as to why their system is the best because they don't want to think they spent money on it unless it's the ABSOLUTE best console there is for that generation. "
Absolutely right about insecurities.  The console I owned last gen - all the way from the beginning, came last and I could care less.  100 games of fun meant everything.  I also bought the other 2 later and got a lot of fun out of the winner and not a lot of fun from the second placed system.  People's opinions on consoles have zero effect on my choices.
#20 Posted by oldschool (7264 posts) -
@Emilio said:
" It has always been console sales. "
Not if your system of choice isn't winning.  Then the rules change.
#21 Posted by Emilio (3380 posts) -
@oldschool said:
" @Emilio said:
" It has always been console sales. "
Not if your system of choice isn't winning.  Then the rules change.
"
The "console war" is won by how many consoles are sold and put into people's hands not by how many of your favorite games are on it.
#22 Edited by Diamond (8634 posts) -

You think terms like hardcore or casual or dumb?

No, this is dumb.  Why would you bump this crap?

I can see you caring if you work at Nintendo, Microsoft, or Sony, or have tons of stock in one of those.

The entire discussion is absolutely meaningless, there was never a meaning to 'winning' the 'console race' and there never will be.

#23 Posted by Themanohall (397 posts) -

I AM.

(But I'm not going to put my opinion, for risk of getting flamed)

#24 Posted by Ecinsiefil (80 posts) -

Nintendo have already one this one, and I imagine it'll be Microsoft in second place and Sony in third, unless something drastic happens between now and 2012.

#25 Posted by mordukai (7133 posts) -
@oldschool said:
" Welcome to Club Sensitive  :-)

The winner is determined by the personal bias of the individual.  Everyone knows it is the Wii, but shhhhhh, if you say that around here, you get flamed.

I say the Sega Mega Drive will win - great new hardware and a great established library.
"
LOL...how funny. He is right you know. ps3 and 360 fanboys won't even admit it but deep down they know that Nintendo won this time around. It does not matter if the games for it are mostly crap, it is selling well and it will keep selling well. Funny how Microsoft's goal was to beat Sony and out comes Nintendo "guns blazing". Nintendo tapped into a whole different market and are selling like hot cakes. Sony's "motion camera" and Microsoft's "natal" are their way of saying that they want some of that casual and non gamers market pie. As oldschool said, shhhhhhhhhhhh...saying that Nintendo won is taboo here. 
#26 Posted by wealllikepie (756 posts) -

well while i think that all of them are an important factor, sales is what ultimately makes the final result, especially to the companies that made the consoles

#27 Posted by chronicsmoke (996 posts) -

game wise?=all three

sales wise= I could give a rats ass

#28 Posted by MattyFTM (14341 posts) -

Sales is the only thing that really matters to the companies. And therefore, wii wins this gen.

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#29 Posted by Atlas (2430 posts) -

I think we've seen something in this generation that we haven't seen on this scale before, and that is the attach rate of games for the consoles. Yes, the Wii has more sales, but the Xbox 360 has almost double the attach rate, and that means a lot to publishers. Add into it that the 360 has some of the most acclaimed games of this generation, probably the best online and download service, and has brought in franchises that were formally exclusives, and I think the 360 is much closer to the Wii than people may think by just looking at the sales figures. Also the Wii is undoubtedly starting to lose momentum, and the recent dent in the Japanese game market isn't going to help their cause, especially as the 360 begins it's very slow climb towards popularity in Japan. The PS3 could make an epic comeback by the end of the cycle, but isn't there yet.

I suppose it depends if Project Natal or the Sony Motion Control really does take off in the mainstream, which won't help attach rates but will help overall console sales. As for games which could tip the balance, Rockstar's Agent could potentially be a big hit for the PS3, and God of War 3 is almost certain to lead to better sales at the start of next year. The 360 also has two Halo games on the way, although you have to think that most people who would be stoked about a Halo game already bought an 360 to play Halo 3. However third party games are definitely helping Microsoft more than the other consoles. The Wii doesn't have much in the way of future console sellers, either first or third party; as with Halo, Super Mario Galaxy 2 probably won't grow sales.

But that's just the business side. The truth is we all win in the end, because there have been some amazing games in this generation, with more to come.

#30 Posted by pause422 (6172 posts) -

No one cares. Unless you're a stupid fanboy.

#31 Posted by Akeldama (4238 posts) -
@Locke: this 
#32 Posted by oldschool (7264 posts) -
@Emilio said:
" @oldschool said:
" @Emilio said:
" It has always been console sales. "
Not if your system of choice isn't winning.  Then the rules change.
"
The "console war" is won by how many consoles are sold and put into people's hands not by how many of your favorite games are on it. "
Just so you know Emillo, I wasn't disagreeing with you, but rather, I was being flippant.  I have been flamed for mentioning that Nintendo won this generation and it was more than just sales of consoles alone - add how they changed the market and Sony & Microsoft saw that and wanted a piece of it.  Hence the flippancy.
#33 Posted by c1337us (5751 posts) -

My opinion.

#34 Posted by PenguinDust (12450 posts) -

I'm pretty sure Michael Pachter will determine who won the console war...in fact, I think he's already announced the winner so everyone can all go home now.

#35 Posted by pornstorestiffi (4909 posts) -
@pause422 said:
" No one cares. Unless you're a stupid fanboy. "
And thats the truth, this thread has officially ended.
#36 Posted by Manatassi (791 posts) -
@pornstorestiffi:  Its officially ended Except you just bumped it back up with that comment!!

Um...  oops. I guess i did too.
#37 Posted by TheJollyRajah (1576 posts) -

Funny how people get worked up on a thread that's nearly a year old.

#38 Posted by nanikore (2740 posts) -

A dead thread has awoken and is reaking zombie havoc on the forums! D:

KILL IT WITH FIRE!

#39 Posted by Manatassi (791 posts) -

See now its just funny to watch its corpse twitching about as we prod it with the cattle prod of new comments.

#40 Posted by Manatassi (791 posts) -
Ok checking back..  We can all blame @crusader8463 for digging this one out of the pile!
#41 Edited by nanikore (2740 posts) -

Seriously though, someone should put up posters against this kind of thread-necrophilia.

#42 Posted by zityz (2360 posts) -

The Wii will. Why? Because at SOME point, they will release Leg attachment peripherals for the console itself. They have everything else just about.

#43 Posted by Emilio (3380 posts) -
@oldschool:
I getcha, man.
#44 Edited by PureRok (4235 posts) -

I don't even know how some of you find these old threads. Do you just go to the last page and post for the lulz? I remember this thread when it was new. At least, I remember ignoring it.

#45 Posted by ChickenPants (934 posts) -

If you really have to be one of those ridiculous people then sales and sales only.

#46 Edited by crusader8463 (14413 posts) -
@Manatassi said:
" Ok checking back..  We can all blame @crusader8463 for digging this one out of the pile! "
i r sorrys. I forgot to look at the last posted date b4 i hit submit :( and it was like 5 am after an endurance run of watching endurance run from episode 20 to 42.
#47 Posted by Manatassi (791 posts) -
@crusader8463 said:
" @Manatassi said:
" Ok checking back..  We can all blame @crusader8463 for digging this one out of the pile! "
i r sorrys. I forgot to look at the last posted date b4 i hit submit :( and it was like 5 am after an endurance run of watching endurance run from episode 20 to 42. "
AAAARGH!!!! NOOOOOOOOoooo.....     

You did it again!!!!

;P~
#48 Posted by OmegaPirate (5523 posts) -
@crusader8463 said:
" @Manatassi said:
" Ok checking back..  We can all blame @crusader8463 for digging this one out of the pile! "
i r sorrys. I forgot to look at the last posted date b4 i hit submit :( and it was like 5 am after an endurance run of watching endurance run from episode 20 to 42. "
Now THAT is commitment!
#49 Posted by crusader8463 (14413 posts) -
@Manatassi said:
" @crusader8463 said:
" @Manatassi said:
" Ok checking back..  We can all blame @crusader8463 for digging this one out of the pile! "
i r sorrys. I forgot to look at the last posted date b4 i hit submit :( and it was like 5 am after an endurance run of watching endurance run from episode 20 to 42. "
AAAARGH!!!! NOOOOOOOOoooo.....     

You did it again!!!!

;P~
"
I r sorries that i did it again... wait...





#50 Posted by lemon360 (1102 posts) -

sales silly noob