What's going to determine who won the console race this gen?

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#1  Edited By chulomex3_basic
Sales?

Games?

Market share?

A combination of 2 or 3?

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#2  Edited By Apollo

How did they determine it last time?

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#3  Edited By Locke

No. Please. This isn't system wars.

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#4  Edited By absinthetic

all of them

but why does that matter?

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#5  Edited By TheSnakeOfWar

Well Last Time The PS2 was destroying the competion in sales wise and had the games to back it up for all demographic whether it was GTA, MGS, Gran Turismo, Eye Toy, Buzz or resident evil.

This Generation I say we will decide a winner on what each console contrubites to us the gamer.
PS3 -Blue Ray, PSN, Internet, Home, MGS4 and high Quality games
360 - Xbox Live,MarketPlace, High Quality Games
Wii -New Audiance, Motion Senising, Shovelware

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#6  Edited By chulomex3_basic
Last time it was the sheer number of games and owners of the PS2.
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#7  Edited By OGCartman

PLEASE! NO! Go argue with the fanboys in SW on Gamespot if you want a thread like this
I dont mean to be rude

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#8  Edited By crusader8463

who is left standing with the biggest bag of cash. Or left standing period i guess. My self though i look at it as who gave me the most hours of pure fun. And so far PC has won every time since i got one back in 1998.

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#9  Edited By mordukai

Ohh gods please! not a System Wars thread. 

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#10  Edited By ArbitraryWater

Hey look, it's a new user who is posting flame bait! Haven't seen this before....

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#11  Edited By Ultimasta

Honestly, i think it's all coming down to your own opinion this time. They're all different enough to not be compared by sales or the like. they all sort of appeal to different audiences. I think it's less of a war and more of a diplomatic cease fire for now. PS2 was very outrightly dominant last generation. This time the winner is chosen by whatever you like the most yourself.

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#12  Edited By Ineedaname

I vote personal preference.

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#13  Edited By Absurd

Noone will have win, except for the consumer.

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#14  Edited By oldschool

Welcome to Club Sensitive  :-)


The winner is determined by the personal bias of the individual.  Everyone knows it is the Wii, but shhhhhh, if you say that around here, you get flamed.

I say the Sega Mega Drive will win - great new hardware and a great established library.
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#15  Edited By The_A_Drain
@chulomex3_basic said:
"Last time it was the sheer number of games and owners of the PS2."
Only because the Dreamcast was dead and the Xbox had very little going for it at all. It was just assumed to be the PS2 by default. There was no, and nor will there ever be any 'official' winner to a generation of consoles.

The winner will be whichever one you like the most at the end of it. Or, if you're at all logical, whichever one made the biggest percentage of gross profit. So it's looking like the Wii.
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#16  Edited By Sick_J0ke

I hate system wars... it's just a showcase of people insecurities and why they need to prove to themselves more than anyone else as to why their system is the best because they don't want to think they spent money on it unless it's the ABSOLUTE best console there is for that generation. 


But to answer your question it depends... this generation of consoles has a long way to go. Below are my personal opinions of the consoles since I own an Xbox 360 and my roommates have the Wii and PS3 so I'm going to give you a non-biased  rundown of the good and bads of each console. 

  • Wii: Has sold the most amount of consoles but it's game library is starting to slag. It's main attribute was the wii mote, but it doesn't fulfill the attributes of a gaming system for gamers. It's really good though because it's extended itself to a broader audience beyond gamers so it'll sell well regardless. 
  • Xbox 360: Great game library, good features, it's only problem is alot of the consoles sold have hardware issues (RROD, overheating, etc.) Also the games are only dvd format so the 360's full potential hasn't been tapped yet. My  guess is in a few years they're gonna release a new type of 360 with a bigger harddrive, all the hardware problems solved, and probably just have you install very large games to the hdd so you won't have to play 6 cd's if they choose to make very high quality games (one of the reasons MGS4 can't be ported to 360 is because it would take 5-6 discs). 
  • PS3: Had a very VERY rough start. The games which came out for it during launch left much to be desired. Along with the high price, this acted as a huge deterent for those wanting to buy a PS3. However, the games have gotten much much better and it's library is almost on par with Xbox 360's. Also the system is the most powerful of the 3 in every aspect of hardware. It's capable of ALOT and if that potentials tapped it can compete against the other 2 systems without any problems. 

So yea that's my take on it. Personally I don't know who's going to "win" the console wars and I really don't care, I love playing my Xbox 360 and I don't need any reassurance to enjoy it. 

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#17  Edited By bwooduhs

If by sales Nintendo would definitly win but i don't even consider them a part of the race anymore because there aiming at a different demographic. But for 360 vs PS3 it will be a mixture of games and sales.

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#18  Edited By Emilio

It has always been console sales.

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#19  Edited By oldschool
@Sick_J0ke said:
" I hate system wars... it's just a showcase of people insecurities and why they need to prove to themselves more than anyone else as to why their system is the best because they don't want to think they spent money on it unless it's the ABSOLUTE best console there is for that generation. "
Absolutely right about insecurities.  The console I owned last gen - all the way from the beginning, came last and I could care less.  100 games of fun meant everything.  I also bought the other 2 later and got a lot of fun out of the winner and not a lot of fun from the second placed system.  People's opinions on consoles have zero effect on my choices.
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#20  Edited By oldschool
@Emilio said:
" It has always been console sales. "
Not if your system of choice isn't winning.  Then the rules change.
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#21  Edited By Emilio
@oldschool said:
" @Emilio said:
" It has always been console sales. "
Not if your system of choice isn't winning.  Then the rules change.
"
The "console war" is won by how many consoles are sold and put into people's hands not by how many of your favorite games are on it.
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#22  Edited By Diamond

You think terms like hardcore or casual or dumb?

No, this is dumb.  Why would you bump this crap?

I can see you caring if you work at Nintendo, Microsoft, or Sony, or have tons of stock in one of those.

The entire discussion is absolutely meaningless, there was never a meaning to 'winning' the 'console race' and there never will be.

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#23  Edited By Themanohall

I AM.

(But I'm not going to put my opinion, for risk of getting flamed)

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#24  Edited By Ecinsiefil

Nintendo have already one this one, and I imagine it'll be Microsoft in second place and Sony in third, unless something drastic happens between now and 2012.

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#25  Edited By mordukai
@oldschool said:
" Welcome to Club Sensitive  :-)

The winner is determined by the personal bias of the individual.  Everyone knows it is the Wii, but shhhhhh, if you say that around here, you get flamed.

I say the Sega Mega Drive will win - great new hardware and a great established library.
"
LOL...how funny. He is right you know. ps3 and 360 fanboys won't even admit it but deep down they know that Nintendo won this time around. It does not matter if the games for it are mostly crap, it is selling well and it will keep selling well. Funny how Microsoft's goal was to beat Sony and out comes Nintendo "guns blazing". Nintendo tapped into a whole different market and are selling like hot cakes. Sony's "motion camera" and Microsoft's "natal" are their way of saying that they want some of that casual and non gamers market pie. As oldschool said, shhhhhhhhhhhh...saying that Nintendo won is taboo here. 
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#26  Edited By wealllikepie

well while i think that all of them are an important factor, sales is what ultimately makes the final result, especially to the companies that made the consoles

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#27  Edited By chronicsmoke

game wise?=all three

sales wise= I could give a rats ass

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#28  Edited By MattyFTM  Moderator

Sales is the only thing that really matters to the companies. And therefore, wii wins this gen.

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#29  Edited By Atlas

I think we've seen something in this generation that we haven't seen on this scale before, and that is the attach rate of games for the consoles. Yes, the Wii has more sales, but the Xbox 360 has almost double the attach rate, and that means a lot to publishers. Add into it that the 360 has some of the most acclaimed games of this generation, probably the best online and download service, and has brought in franchises that were formally exclusives, and I think the 360 is much closer to the Wii than people may think by just looking at the sales figures. Also the Wii is undoubtedly starting to lose momentum, and the recent dent in the Japanese game market isn't going to help their cause, especially as the 360 begins it's very slow climb towards popularity in Japan. The PS3 could make an epic comeback by the end of the cycle, but isn't there yet.

I suppose it depends if Project Natal or the Sony Motion Control really does take off in the mainstream, which won't help attach rates but will help overall console sales. As for games which could tip the balance, Rockstar's Agent could potentially be a big hit for the PS3, and God of War 3 is almost certain to lead to better sales at the start of next year. The 360 also has two Halo games on the way, although you have to think that most people who would be stoked about a Halo game already bought an 360 to play Halo 3. However third party games are definitely helping Microsoft more than the other consoles. The Wii doesn't have much in the way of future console sellers, either first or third party; as with Halo, Super Mario Galaxy 2 probably won't grow sales.

But that's just the business side. The truth is we all win in the end, because there have been some amazing games in this generation, with more to come.

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#30  Edited By pause422

No one cares. Unless you're a stupid fanboy.

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#31  Edited By Akeldama
@Locke: this 
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#32  Edited By oldschool
@Emilio said:
" @oldschool said:
" @Emilio said:
" It has always been console sales. "
Not if your system of choice isn't winning.  Then the rules change.
"
The "console war" is won by how many consoles are sold and put into people's hands not by how many of your favorite games are on it. "
Just so you know Emillo, I wasn't disagreeing with you, but rather, I was being flippant.  I have been flamed for mentioning that Nintendo won this generation and it was more than just sales of consoles alone - add how they changed the market and Sony & Microsoft saw that and wanted a piece of it.  Hence the flippancy.
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#33  Edited By c1337us

My opinion.

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#34  Edited By penguindust

I'm pretty sure Michael Pachter will determine who won the console war...in fact, I think he's already announced the winner so everyone can all go home now.

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#35  Edited By MeierTheRed
@pause422 said:
" No one cares. Unless you're a stupid fanboy. "
And thats the truth, this thread has officially ended.
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#36  Edited By Manatassi
@pornstorestiffi:  Its officially ended Except you just bumped it back up with that comment!!

Um...  oops. I guess i did too.
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#37  Edited By TheJollyRajah

Funny how people get worked up on a thread that's nearly a year old.

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#38  Edited By nanikore

A dead thread has awoken and is reaking zombie havoc on the forums! D:

KILL IT WITH FIRE!

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#39  Edited By Manatassi

See now its just funny to watch its corpse twitching about as we prod it with the cattle prod of new comments.

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#40  Edited By Manatassi
Ok checking back..  We can all blame @crusader8463 for digging this one out of the pile!
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#41  Edited By nanikore

Seriously though, someone should put up posters against this kind of thread-necrophilia.

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#42  Edited By zityz

The Wii will. Why? Because at SOME point, they will release Leg attachment peripherals for the console itself. They have everything else just about.

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#43  Edited By Emilio
@oldschool:
I getcha, man.
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#44  Edited By PureRok

I don't even know how some of you find these old threads. Do you just go to the last page and post for the lulz? I remember this thread when it was new. At least, I remember ignoring it.

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#45  Edited By ChickenPants

If you really have to be one of those ridiculous people then sales and sales only.

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#46  Edited By crusader8463
@Manatassi said:
" Ok checking back..  We can all blame @crusader8463 for digging this one out of the pile! "
i r sorrys. I forgot to look at the last posted date b4 i hit submit :( and it was like 5 am after an endurance run of watching endurance run from episode 20 to 42.
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#47  Edited By Manatassi
@crusader8463 said:
" @Manatassi said:
" Ok checking back..  We can all blame @crusader8463 for digging this one out of the pile! "
i r sorrys. I forgot to look at the last posted date b4 i hit submit :( and it was like 5 am after an endurance run of watching endurance run from episode 20 to 42. "
AAAARGH!!!! NOOOOOOOOoooo.....     

You did it again!!!!

;P~
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#48  Edited By OmegaPirate
@crusader8463 said:
" @Manatassi said:
" Ok checking back..  We can all blame @crusader8463 for digging this one out of the pile! "
i r sorrys. I forgot to look at the last posted date b4 i hit submit :( and it was like 5 am after an endurance run of watching endurance run from episode 20 to 42. "
Now THAT is commitment!
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#49  Edited By crusader8463
@Manatassi said:
" @crusader8463 said:
" @Manatassi said:
" Ok checking back..  We can all blame @crusader8463 for digging this one out of the pile! "
i r sorrys. I forgot to look at the last posted date b4 i hit submit :( and it was like 5 am after an endurance run of watching endurance run from episode 20 to 42. "
AAAARGH!!!! NOOOOOOOOoooo.....     

You did it again!!!!

;P~
"
I r sorries that i did it again... wait...



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#50  Edited By lemon360

sales silly noob