Can off topic be about anything?

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#1  Edited By bombHills

I think it should be...  Just had a topic locked for not being related to games

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#2  Edited By Diamond

Maybe it was because it was about illegal drugs?  I dunno.

Can't talk about murdering people or raping little girls either.  Go figure.

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#3  Edited By Jayge_

Yeah... your topic should have been locked, but MB provided a pretty retarded reason for it.

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#4  Edited By JackiJinx

That's what off-topic is for.

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#5  Edited By thordain

While I dont agree with MB locking the topic, I believe its preferred by the mods that you send them a PM about it, instead of making a topic.

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#6  Edited By mike
Jayge said:
"Yeah... your topic should have been locked, but MB provided a pretty retarded reason for it."
Maybe you should reread the Forum FAQ.

It's been the rule since day one that we do not allow discussions about USING drugs - but topics about characters' drug use in specific games or the inclusion of drugs in games as an object or theme are OK.  I would have thought that someone that has been around since the beginning and has nearly 7,000 posts would know that.
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#7  Edited By Jayge_
MB said:
"Jayge said:
"Yeah... your topic should have been locked, but MB provided a pretty retarded reason for it."
Maybe you should reread the Forum FAQ.It's been the rule since day one that we do not allow discussions about USING drugs - but topics about characters' drug use in specific games or the inclusion of drugs in games as an object or theme are OK.  I would have thought that someone that has been around since the beginning and has nearly 7,000 posts would know that."
It wasn't a discussion about using drugs, it was a poll based on preference. That said, if you've been enforcing that rule the entire time, then you've only been enforcing half of it, because plenty of people discussing their personal "piracy" histories and other things of that nature have been left alone and ignored. It also provides no explenation for why my post in that thread was randomly deleted, since it was discussing alcohol, which is by no means illegal.
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#8  Edited By Karmum

I would say anything that is within the forum rules. I don't think drugs (like marijuana) is within those boundaries.

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#9  Edited By mike
Jayge said:
"MB said:
"Jayge said:
"Yeah... your topic should have been locked, but MB provided a pretty retarded reason for it."
Maybe you should reread the Forum FAQ.It's been the rule since day one that we do not allow discussions about USING drugs - but topics about characters' drug use in specific games or the inclusion of drugs in games as an object or theme are OK.  I would have thought that someone that has been around since the beginning and has nearly 7,000 posts would know that."
It wasn't a discussion about using drugs, it was a poll based on preference. That said, if you've been enforcing that rule the entire time, then you've only been enforcing half of it, because plenty of people discussing their personal "piracy" histories and other things of that nature have been left alone and ignored. It also provides no explenation for why my post in that thread was randomly deleted, since it was discussing alcohol, which is by no means illegal.
"


Same thing, the thread was about illegal drugs and had nothing to do with games so it was closed.  Threads that talk about piracy are also fine as long as they don't detail how to crack games or give links on where to download pirated games or software.

A good example is that while a thread discussing the fact that there are drugs in Saints Row 2 is fine, but a thread about how you just smoked a fat blunt would not be OK.  Do you understand now?
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#10  Edited By bombHills

I didn't know that was the rule, my bad.  It's just sad that we cant have an adult oriented discussion.

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#11  Edited By LiveOrDie1212
MB said:
"Jayge said:
"MB said:
"Jayge said:
"Yeah... your topic should have been locked, but MB provided a pretty retarded reason for it."
Maybe you should reread the Forum FAQ.It's been the rule since day one that we do not allow discussions about USING drugs - but topics about characters' drug use in specific games or the inclusion of drugs in games as an object or theme are OK.  I would have thought that someone that has been around since the beginning and has nearly 7,000 posts would know that."
It wasn't a discussion about using drugs, it was a poll based on preference. That said, if you've been enforcing that rule the entire time, then you've only been enforcing half of it, because plenty of people discussing their personal "piracy" histories and other things of that nature have been left alone and ignored. It also provides no explenation for why my post in that thread was randomly deleted, since it was discussing alcohol, which is by no means illegal.
"
Same thing, the thread was about illegal drugs and had nothing to do with games so it was closed.  Threads that talk about piracy are also fine as long as they don't detail how to crack games or give links on where to download pirated games or software.A good example is that while a thread discussing the fact that there are drugs in Saints Row 2 is fine, but a thread about how you just smoked a fat blunt would not be OK.  Do you understand now?"
yes Teacher
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#12  Edited By Jayge_
MB said:
"Same thing, the thread was about illegal drugs and had nothing to do with games so it was closed.  Threads that talk about piracy are also fine as long as they don't detail how to crack games or give links on where to download pirated games or software."
Piracy is explicit and illegal too. Yet people discuss partaking in piracy themselves all the time, which is what I was referring to. Not discussing piracy, discussing engaging in piracy. Why should those be left alone if threads about "illegal drugs" that don't talk about how to use them or give tips on how to create them or buy them are locked? There is no difference. 
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#13  Edited By Arkthemaniac

Off topic can't be about games.

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#14  Edited By Lies
Arkthemaniac said:
"Off topic can't be about games."
Off topic can only be about obscure moderation debates.
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#15  Edited By thordain
Lies said:
"Arkthemaniac said:
"Off topic can't be about games."
Off topic can only be about obscure moderation debates."
we really need a section dedicated to that.
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#16  Edited By JackiJinx
Thordain said:
"Lies said:
"Arkthemaniac said:
"Off topic can't be about games."
Off topic can only be about obscure moderation debates."
we really need a section dedicated to that."
Quite right.
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#17  Edited By natetodamax
MB said:
Same thing, the thread was about illegal drugs and had nothing to do with games so it was closed
That made me stop reading for a second. I thought off-topic was supposed to be stuff unrelated to games?
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#18  Edited By Karmum
natetodamax said:
"MB said:
Same thing, the thread was about illegal drugs and had nothing to do with games so it was closed
That made me stop reading for a second. I thought off-topic was supposed to be stuff unrelated to games?"
Perhaps if it was related to games, it could be moved to General Discussion?
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#19  Edited By artofwar420
Karmum said:
Perhaps if it was related to games, it could be moved to General Discussion?"
I agree with that.
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#20  Edited By natetodamax

I don't know. I think there will most likely always be questions as to what's allowed and what's not, despite there being a Forum Guide.

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#21  Edited By citizenkane
natetodamax said:
"MB said:
Same thing, the thread was about illegal drugs and had nothing to do with games so it was closed
That made me stop reading for a second. I thought off-topic was supposed to be stuff unrelated to games?"
MB was just talking about discussion of illegal drugs in general, whether it retains to real life or in video games.
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#22  Edited By mike
Jayge said:
Piracy is explicit and illegal too. Yet people discuss partaking in piracy themselves all the time, which is what I was referring to. Not discussing piracy, discussing engaging in piracy. Why should those be left alone if threads about "illegal drugs" that don't talk about how to use them or give tips on how to create them or buy them are locked? There is no difference. "
For the purposes of this site, there is a distinct difference.  We're not going to just ban all discussion about piracy outright, because it is a part of this industry and a lot of good discussions can be had about it and how it affects developers and consumers alike.  That is a lot different from someone posting a link to a torrent site where you can download a cracked copy of Dawn of War II, wouldn't you say?

If you feel that certain discussions are way outside of the scope of what is allowed on Giant Bomb, then send a PM to a moderator and one of us will review the thread or post in question.
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#23  Edited By Gunner

YEAH JAYGE STICK IT TO THE MAN!

Anywho, im sure it could be about anything you want as long as it isnt something like porn or illegal shit.

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#24  Edited By Foil1212
MB said:
"Jayge said:
Piracy is explicit and illegal too. Yet people discuss partaking in piracy themselves all the time, which is what I was referring to. Not discussing piracy, discussing engaging in piracy. Why should those be left alone if threads about "illegal drugs" that don't talk about how to use them or give tips on how to create them or buy them are locked? There is no difference. "
For the purposes of this site, there is a distinct difference.  We're not going to just ban all discussion about piracy outright, because it is a part of this industry and a lot of good discussions can be had about it and how it affects developers and consumers alike.  That is a lot different from someone posting a link to a torrent site where you can download a cracked copy of Dawn of War II, wouldn't you say?If you feel that certain discussions are way outside of the scope of what is allowed on Giant Bomb, then send a PM to a moderator and one of us will review the thread or post in question."
As jayge said, what about alcohol? it's totally legal, and his post about alcohol was deleted.
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#25  Edited By Milkman

Guys, the post was "Do you like weed or beer better?" Of course it's going to get locked.  It's fucking common sense. 

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#26  Edited By mike
Foil1212 said:
As jayge said, what about alcohol? it's totally legal, and his post about alcohol was deleted."

His post slipped in after my "This thread is getting locked" reply while I was locking the topic.  Those types of late posts are always deleted regardless of content.  It's a limitation (or bug) related to the locking system - sometimes people can get replies in after a thread is already locked if they time it right.
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#27  Edited By Foil1212

SEE, THERE'S AN EXPLANATION I CAN TRUST!

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#28  Edited By OldManLollipop

No, if you make a thread about Himalayan shoelaces Jeff will send people to your house.

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#29  Edited By Alex_Murphy
MB said:
"we do not allow discussions about USING drugs"
What about a discussion on whether or not the government should be able to keep people from smoking weed while at the same time making millions from the taxes on alcohol and cigarettes?


Jayge said:
"It also provides no explenation for why my post in that thread was randomly deleted, since it was discussing alcohol, which is by no means illegal."
That is strange, especially since the front page of this site claims that one of the things powering it is booze.

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#30  Edited By Mushir
bombHills said:
"I didn't know that was the rule, my bad.  It's just sad that we cant have an adult oriented discussion."
There are plenty of other forums where you can have an adult oriented discussion.
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#31  Edited By mike
Alex_Murphy said:
"MB said:
"we do not allow discussions about USING drugs"
What about a discussion on whether or not the government should be able to keep people from smoking weed while at the same time making millions from the taxes on alcohol and cigarettes?
Sounds fine to me...but again, that's not a "Tell me about the last time you shot up horse" thread is it?  Again...common sense prevails.  These sorts of things will be handled on a case by case basis.  As far as your other point, that was already addressed and if you read the entire thread you would find your answer.
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#32  Edited By Alex_Murphy
MB said:
"His post slipped in after my "This thread is getting locked" reply while I was locking the topic.  Those types of late posts are always deleted regardless of content.  It's a limitation (or bug) related to the locking system - sometimes people can get replies in after a thread is already locked if they time it right."
Ah ok I missed that part, my fault.