sure
Do animals have emotions?
Isn't the limbic system proof enough? Do you still need a vote?
There was actually an article in the paper today about how a group of chimpanzees wouldn't go near the place where an elder lady chimp died for about a week, despite it being a favourite sleeping place, and how the daughter went there on her own once a day and just sat there. On top of that, as the zoo keepers took her away they whole family gathered around as they wheel barrowed her away.
There was also another story in the same article about how a mum of two kept the corpses of her two babies after they died with her for ages, and nobody else minded, a bit grim but it shows she had an attachment to them beyond just doing her job for nature.
" Duh, is this a question look to abusive cases where dogs get depressed or Dolphins commit suicide. "how would a dolphin go about killing him/herself?
just curious...
" @Gabriel said:Dolphins have complete control over their blowholes, it can simply just stop breathing unlike a person." Duh, is this a question look to abusive cases where dogs get depressed or Dolphins commit suicide. "how would a dolphin go about killing him/herself? just curious... "
Do animals poop?
Do animals eat?
Do animals sleep?
Do animals do shit most humans can do?
Of Course :D
I think there was an article in today USAToday about chimps grieving much the same way people do over death.
" @captain_clayman said:man" @Gabriel said:Dolphins have complete control over their blowholes, it can simply just stop breathing unlike a person. "" Duh, is this a question look to abusive cases where dogs get depressed or Dolphins commit suicide. "how would a dolphin go about killing him/herself? just curious... "
you gotta be a sad ass dolphin to do that...
" God I hope not, my life long work towards Spider Genocide means they must really hate me. "Damn the spiders! This world isn't big enough for them!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8645283.stm
Higher up the scale you go the more complex the emotions. Not every animal has emotions. Ants have 60 neurons and aren't even fully functional as individual units, they're not spending their days worrying about whether Danny thinks they've got a fat arse and droopy antennae.
My dog, when we got him, was freaked out by certain things due to abuse from a previous owner....
Also read Where the Red Fern Grows! The book for every 10 year old boy.
They are mammals, so they have a degree of emotions, however, I think domestication brought around "learned" emotions. Some mammals that aren't domesticated are much different emotions wise (wolves), and I think humans cuddling and swooning over kittens and puppies causes these "learned" emotions. Try petting a wolf and swooning over it...it won't care.
Also I can count animal emotions on one hand
"hungry"
"i need to shit"
"i want attention"
"fuck off"
"get that dog off my lawn"
The majority of metazoa (in numbers) does not feel "emotions", no.
You have to go waaaay down the phylogenetic tree to the arthropods (including, but not only consisting of insects) and vertebrates (fish, birds, mammals, etc.) until you can even argue about "emotions".
And even then, it depends on who you ask. The chemist? The biologist? The philosopher? The sociologist? The neurologist? They will all give you different answers, because "emotion" is not a scientific term.
An organism with a neural system that enables it to perceive "pain" (or bodily harm) and tries to avoid it, but is unable to conciously reflect, anticipate, learn from or regret it, does it "feel" an "emotion"?
What is left of "emotion" when you strip away conception of self, imagination, long-term memory or conception of "future"? Where do "reflex" or "sensation" or "instict" end and "emotion" begin?
Few people will deny that many if not most higher mammals, especially those who have shown forms of language, imagination and creativity experience something comparable to human "emotion" - because they have similar organs, similar nervous systems and reactions, similar messenger substances and exhibit similar reactions. You should, however, be very careful in what you make of that. If you ask me, to think that other species' perception of self, of the world, and of what is happening is even remotely similar to our own is.... questionable.
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