I'm not trying to stir shit up here. Giant Bomb is my all time favorite website and Red Dead Redemption is my all time favorite game .. seeing those two not getting along last year felt wrong and eerie to many of us. 
So i think its fair to wonder whether Jeff will love this game like he loved GTA IV and whether the staff will get hype about it, or whether it's gonna pass unnoticed and unappreciated like RDR 
  

It was only Jeff that didn't like RDR. He didn't really have a solid reason either, so it's not like all of GB were hating on it. Just one man. 
 
I hope L.A. Noire turns out fantastic, and if that's the case there's a good chance the whole crew will like it.

Jeff was the only one that didn't like Red Dead Redemption.

I don't think they had any problem with RDR. Only Jeff didn't like it.

I think they'll appreciate the state-of-the-art motion capture being used in the game, but it's hard to say what they'll think of it until it comes out because it doesn't look like your typical GTA type game. 
It might have the same third-person perspective, but I'm hoping the combat will be very different to compliment the investigation and interrogation mechanics. 

Jeff didn't like the game because the controls and the pacing, saying he has no solid reasons makes it sound like he was just being a dick about it.

" Jeff didn't like the game because the controls and the pacing, saying he has no solid reasons makes it sound like he was just being a dick about it. "

The first thing I think of when I hear the words "unappreciated" and "unnoticed" is Red Dead Redemption.

Ryan, Vinny and especially Brad loved RDR. That's 75% of Giantbomb. 
 
Also is LA NOIRE a GTA style open world? None of the trailers show anything but cutscenes.

everyone has a problem with the lack of gameplay footage. It is pretty telling.

RDR is too long and it has too many side characters you just don't care much about. It needed a tighter and more interesting story beyond just Marsten helping one crazy person after another just to have them screw him over once he does help them. That was the whole game, over and over again.

"Also, RDR as your favorite game ever seems like over-playing it a bit, but that's your opinion. "

" The first thing I think of when I hear the words "unappreciated" and "unnoticed" is Red Dead Redemption. "

"Also is LA NOIRE a GTA style open world? None of the trailers show anything but cutscenes. "

" Jeff didn't like the game because the controls and the pacing, saying he has no solid reasons makes it sound like he was just being a dick about it. "

I have the feeling Brad will love it, Ryan will really like it, Vinny will thinks its neat and Jeff will not like it.  
 
But, who knows? I just get that vibe when I think about the game's release. 

Considering how often it popped up in the Game of the Year discussions, I think RDR was quite well represented in Giant Bomb. Remember, just because it didn't win a reward, getting put on the top 5, 10, or even 20 list of the year means the game was quite good and well respected by at least most of the staff.

I'm pretty sure they didn't bother reviewing it because they didn't get a review copy, and by the time a review could be posted, it wouldn't have really mattered, so it wasn't worth the extra work.

Some of you need to watch the trailers again. 
 
Also Rockstar rarely ever releases trailers showing obvious gameplay or plays the game publcly. The Red Dead Redemption stuff was the first time they've done that in ages and was incredibly uncharacteristic for them.
 
@JJWeatherman said:

" You'd think flawed controls and pacing could be overlooked. "

" @Ahmad_Metallic:  What open world?  Nothing I have seen or read about the game indicates anything about how it actually plays.  From everything I've seen, it could be a Heavy Rain clone. "

AndrewW91 asks... Could you give us a sense of how open the world is? And what kind of activities we can take part in while not on a mission (if any)?  
 
Jeronimo Barrera: The world is completely open for you to travel through at all times, but the focus of the game is not the same as a Grand Theft Auto or Red Dead Redemption. This time, the city is a backdrop for the incredibly accurate real-world locations and crime scenes that Cole Phelps explores on his way to solving each case. The game has been crafted to seamlessly blend classic cops-and-robbers style action with dynamic interrogations and searching for suspects in a way that one doesn't distract from the other. There are ambient events within the game world that you will hear more about in the weeks ahead, like unassigned cases or robberies in progress that you can take on outside of the main story, but the focus is on Cole's progression through the ranks of the LAPD and the events that unfold as a result. It's a very intense game because we ask you to listen very carefully to what has been said and to remember names, places and clues, as well as decide whether you can believe what someone is saying. It's going to be a very new experience for our audience but one we think they are very ready for.     

" @jukezypoo said:

"Also, RDR as your favorite game ever seems like over-playing it a bit, but that's your opinion. "

well it is :) 

RDR was GTAIV in the west.  If this is GTAIV in 50's LA or whenever than it shouldn't get that high of praise.  Reviewers need to quit sucking the R* cock.

Jeff has said multiple time he doesn't like westerns LA Noire isn't a western. 

" RDR was GTAIV in the west.  "

 Rockstar's detective drama LA Noire cannot be compared to the GTA series, according to the publisher.

The title sees gamers take on the role of investigator in 1940s Los Angeles, gathering and examine evidence, interrogating witnesses and shaking suspects down.

Yet despite its open world credentials, Rockstar says the game "doesn't have a point of reference" from elsewhere - not even the publisher's flagship franchise.

"For us it's always good when you are crafting something and you don't have a point of reference from other games," VP of product development at Rockstar Jeronimo Barrera told Edge issue 213 - which is on sale today.

"Even though you could say it's like GTA because you have this open city you can run around in, it's paced completely differently. To us that's what we have to sell: 'Look, it's not super-high action like GTA, though there is action, but it is as compelling because of the interactions the characters are having'."
 

Quote of the day, however, goes to Aaron Staton, who plays protagonist Cole Phelps (and also Ken Cosgrove in the TV series Mad Men). He also distances the title from GTA, in inimitable fashion:

"The difference between this and GTA is that you play a guy who's out there trying to do good. Everyone will initially want to punch old ladies - I probably would - but people are then going to be interested in the story and solving the cases. And seeing what other old ladies they can punch."

I haven't listened to any podcasts in a while, so I'm out of the loop. Can you tell me when they had this discussion over Red Dead Redemption?  
 
They are entitled to their own opinions, but I thought RDR was awesome.

i was with jeff the whole time. it was cool for that first hour or so. after that though, it just feels like it was dragging along at times. he's said he just couldn't get into it and i couldn't either. especially the end which i thought was terrible to be honest. i didn't like how it ended at all. i played it all the way because i wanted to give it the benefit of the doubt in hopes it would pull through and wow me in a big way. the only part that showed me a bright spot and kept me hoping for better was when you first get on your horse in mexico and the jose gonzalez song starts playing as you ride along at sundown. i don't deny the gravitas that the game has but it just wasnt the western game for me and i completely understand jeff's dislike of the game. 
 
that all being said, i'm hopeful that L.A. Noire will be a knockout hit from rockstar. i'm curious to see how the interrogations will go down whether with dialog trees or with interactive cut scenes or who knows what. lol i look forward to seeing what the game will bring to the table considering it's being released a week after duke nukem forever. will be interesting to see how those 2 do in may.

"Jeff didn't like the game because the controls and the pacing, saying he has no solid reasons makes it sound like he was just being a dick about it. "

Guys, L.A noire is not being developed by Rockstar, It's Team Bondi making it. Rockstar is PUBLISHING it, no hand in the development. 

Dunno why you are comparing this to RDR or GTA IV, it's not even made by Rockstar.

" Jeff was the only one that didn't like Red Dead Redemption. "

" @Skytylz said:

" RDR was GTAIV in the west.  "

Wrong. Also:
 

 Rockstar's detective drama LA Noire cannot be compared to the GTA series, according to the publisher.

The title sees gamers take on the role of investigator in 1940s Los Angeles, gathering and examine evidence, interrogating witnesses and shaking suspects down.

Yet despite its open world credentials, Rockstar says the game "doesn't have a point of reference" from elsewhere - not even the publisher's flagship franchise.

"For us it's always good when you are crafting something and you don't have a point of reference from other games," VP of product development at Rockstar Jeronimo Barrera told Edge issue 213 - which is on sale today.

"Even though you could say it's like GTA because you have this open city you can run around in, it's paced completely differently. To us that's what we have to sell: 'Look, it's not super-high action like GTA, though there is action, but it is as compelling because of the interactions the characters are having'."
 

Quote of the day, however, goes to Aaron Staton, who plays protagonist Cole Phelps (and also Ken Cosgrove in the TV series Mad Men). He also distances the title from GTA, in inimitable fashion:

"The difference between this and GTA is that you play a guy who's out there trying to do good. Everyone will initially want to punch old ladies - I probably would - but people are then going to be interested in the story and solving the cases. And seeing what other old ladies they can punch."

 http://www.computerandvideogames.com/239287/news/rockstar-la-noire-not-a-gta-clone/ "

If it has less shooting and explosions than GTA4, than chances are good that Jeff won't like it.

" but one thing ANYONE who's beaten both IV and RDR (rather than just playing for a few hours then making up his mind) knows that while they share certain aspects, RDR was so much bigger and better in every way possible that you could indulge in it like its one of a kind. "

I'm totally with Jeff on RDR.
 
I enjoyed GTA4, but this game just feels... weird.
 
I think it's because I don't like any of the controls. IN GTA the shooting was terrible, but I enjoyed the driving, and given that the game was about 80% driving I still enjoyed it as a whole. With Red Dead I hate the shooting AND the horse riding. There have been so many times in Red Dead where I find myself out in the open with no cover and there is simply nothing I can do to get out of the situation alive.
 
I think the Rockstar/GTA mission structure is also a little tired at this point. None of the characters have been that memorable, and I can't be bothered to care about them because I know that after 5 or 6 missions I'll be on to someone else.
 
I've just finished the Mexico missions and since I've heard that the game has got a great ending I'll keep playing, but there is no way this game would have made my top ten of the year.

  real looking BEARS    

If they're anything like me, then they'll probably have absolutely no interest in it. Then again, I said the exact same thing about Red Dead Redemption before it came out, but I ended up liking it. Then again again, any game where realistic faces are a key feature is a game I don't put much hope into.

" @Skytylz: Argument? Who said anything about argument? It's fact that the two games are vastly different. There are so many systems within RDR that weren't present in GTA IV. Not to mention the fact that, you know, it's hard to be Grand Theft Auto-like when you don't even drive a single car. And you're not just running around shooting criminals. Read some actual preview material and stop being ignorant. Every article has said there is action but that the main focus is on investigation of crime scenes, collecting and processing clues and interrogating witnesses. I've heard it described multiple times by people who have seen it in action as something somewhat similar to old school adventure games. Why would Team Bondi and Rockstar talk about those game mechanics and about them being so important if all you actually end up doing is running around shooting dudes? Why would they spend millions of dollars and six years working on their facial animation tech if it didn't actually contribute to the gameplay like they're saying it will?  smh "

" Dunno why you are comparing this to RDR or GTA IV, it's not even made by Rockstar. "

" Also the talk about going on a hunting trip is hilarious, I could do that in New Vegas and hunt some geckos then sleep on the mat in my post apocalyptic shack then go sell them on the strip.  "

Jeff probably won't like LA Noire eather, he'll be like "1940s mobsters waaahhh" and completely dismiss it- but you know what, that's fine with me. I learned a long time ago the me and Jeff have a very different taste in games, it's his personality I find entertaining. It's not that he loves a lot of bad games, it that he hates a lot of good games. I fucking love Resident Evil, and couldn't care less about DJ Hero.

" @Skytylz said:

" New Vegas is an RPG, ofcourse you can hunt animals in the wilderness and sell them.. when it comes to RDR, its mindblowing because its happening in a GTA-ish game. (im saying GTA-ish because thats the closest game to RDR, not because rdr is a 'gta clone' or whatever) "

" @Ahmad_Metallic said:

" @Skytylz said:

" New Vegas is an RPG, ofcourse you can hunt animals in the wilderness and sell them.. when it comes to RDR, its mindblowing because its happening in a GTA-ish game. (im saying GTA-ish because thats the closest game to RDR, not because rdr is a 'gta clone' or whatever) "

So one is par for the course and the other is revolutionary because you make an arbitrary genre distinction. Don't flip out bro, they're probably the same genre. They have more in common with each other than they have with most games in the genres you choose to put them in. Don't let your insistence on arbitrary labels give you a migraine or anything. I just think its really silly that two games do the same things and one gets more credit because you call it something different. Its kinda dumb. Both are open world and have leveling and weapon upgrading and quest givers and item collecting and aim assist. They're different genres only because you and other gamers make stupid arbitrary distinctions. "

i have high hopes for this game, im sure the gb team will love this too

I think: 
 
Brad will flip over it 
Vinny will enjoy his playthrough 
Ryan will  enjoy his playthrough  
Jeff will hate it, if he even plays it