Mass Effect 2
Game » consists of 21 releases. Released Jan 26, 2010
After a violent death by an unknown force and a timely reanimation by the human supremacist organization Cerberus, Commander Shepard must assemble a new squad in the seedier side of the galaxy for a suicide mission in the second installment of the "Mass Effect" trilogy.
[Rumor] Upcoming Bioware game to be...Mass Effect multiplayer
The weirdest thing is there's a part of my brain which finds this plausible, still, I'm not going to believe it until I see it. I think the biggest barrier to this being true is not the gameplay of Mass Effect having to be completely refashioned for a multiplayer environment, but rather that Bioware would develop a game in the vein of Call of Duty to begin with.
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I wouldn't mind it if they find a way to make multiplayer with crazy biotic action to be honest. If Bioware develops this smart, it will be done via a seperate team than the one focusing on ME3 or the rest of the ME2 DLC. If this is the case, I'm all for seeing how they make Mass Effect universe technology work towards giving us a fresh multiplayer experience.
Of course, the only thing that still worries me is that they are aiming for the Call of Duty audience. Either way, hoping it turns out good.
" Ew =( Why would they do this? "Because ever since CoD 4 every company think every freaking game should have MP, that's why. Also gamers are not any help since they are the ones screaming for MP as if that feature will justify the money they spent...SP is a dying breed. I think every developer should have this written on their walls.
NOT EVRY GAME NEEDS TO HAVE MULTI PLAYER!
this makes me wanna go out and burn my Mass Effect game copy Tim Bisley style.
I was listening to IGN Game Scoop and they had an interview with someone from Bioware. IGN tried to get him talking about Mass Effect 3, and whether it'd have multiplayer. One of IGN's employees told the Bioware guy that they want the franchise to remain a single-player experience; the Bioware employee said something like, "If we were to do multiplayer, we'd make sure we did it correctly". There was even more alluding to a Mass Effect game featuring multiplayer, if I remember correctly. I'd confirm these statements, but I don't want to re-listen to the interview. Maybe someone else could do that.
The podcast's page (Interview starts at 52: 25)
"along with some sort of single-player component that does not feature Mass Effect's Commander Shepard in a leading role "
Interesting.
And there was a time when BioWare releasing the best console game of the year was unthinkable." @BunkerBuster said:
" If anyone can get it done its Bioware. "Bioware makes single player RPGs. Not online shooters. "
I went through Mass Effect 2 four times, and the last two were just because I enjoyed the gameplay. If I had a multiplayer mode to try out all the classes, I would've spent time there.
Mass Effect multi seems so obvious a move, with the 6 classes all having special moves (the Soldier's adrenaline might have to be changed to a snap-to-target kind of thing) and the mix between damage types and attacks. Different classes having different armor types (adepts with barriers, infiltrators with armor, engineers with shields, vanguards with barrier/armor, soldiers with armor/shields, sentinels with everything) and different attacks (if you come with warp, you can handle armor and barrier, but you'll need overload for shields), and then the raw fun of using Throw to knock someone across the arena.
" @xyzygy said:There was also a time where Bioware made medical software instead of games, so I agree that pigeonholing them may be a less-than-safe bet." @BunkerBuster said:And there was a time when BioWare releasing the best console game of the year was unthinkable. "" If anyone can get it done its Bioware. "Bioware makes single player RPGs. Not online shooters. "
" @xyzygy said:Shattered Steel was a shooter with online capability (well MP via dial-up, but still)." @BunkerBuster said:And there was a time when BioWare releasing the best console game of the year was unthinkable. "" If anyone can get it done its Bioware. "Bioware makes single player RPGs. Not online shooters. "
according to that article, it's being developed by their montreal studio, so don't start getting up in arms about bioware neglecting their core fans. they're putting out a new single-player rpg in the next few months so stand down.
" @Brodehouse said:Perhaps then it's safe to assume then that they will move on to making minigame compilations :o" @xyzygy said:There was also a time where Bioware made medical software instead of games, so I agree that pigeonholing them may be a less-than-safe bet. "" @BunkerBuster said:And there was a time when BioWare releasing the best console game of the year was unthinkable. "" If anyone can get it done its Bioware. "Bioware makes single player RPGs. Not online shooters. "
" @buzz_clik said:It would be a game where you play as the Mass Effect version of JACK and have to open doors for Shepard, playing a different Pipe Dreams-style minigame everytime." @Brodehouse said:Perhaps then it's safe to assume then that they will move on to making minigame compilations :o "" @xyzygy said:There was also a time where Bioware made medical software instead of games, so I agree that pigeonholing them may be a less-than-safe bet. "" @BunkerBuster said:And there was a time when BioWare releasing the best console game of the year was unthinkable. "" If anyone can get it done its Bioware. "Bioware makes single player RPGs. Not online shooters. "
" First thing that comes to mind when I think of turning ME into a multiplayer game is "clusterfuck". Just a bunch of people jamming on their powers when they see an enemy, with no pause screen to go about things tactically. "Well I can't say much as a person who played this on the PC, but I hardly used the pause screen when I had the hotkeys to effectively manage everything without much hassle. For me if they do it wrong, it will be overly-simplified in terms of the variety of abilities. However, if this game lets me play as a Krogan warlord or a Turian Veteran and do some interesting abilities that are race-specific, then that would start to be real interesting.
The problem may really be if they accidently make the abilities too frequent in nature, just to make the action artificially frantic and crazy, thus resulting in a real clusterfuck. Either way, I also hope they figure it out too.
wondering if this is another attempt by EA too shoe horn into the call of duty crowd... MOH failed so why not try Mass Effect :| ...
I don't see anything wrong with this, since I don't see how this in anyway would really effect the main Mass Effect series(especially since the rumor going around is that Bioware Montreal is the one developing it). If you don't want to play a COD-style ME because of dubious concerns, don't play it. No one is going to force you to play it and since Shepard isn't the going to be the main character, you won't miss out on any of the main story if you skip it.
Gameplay wise this could definitely work. I just hope this doesn't in any way affect what they are doing with the Mass Effect single player experience.
Wow, once again such negativity. Are gamers so opposed to change that even a rumor sends them into a tizzy? This isn't a case like the potentially radical change of gameplay and character that seems to be happening in Dragon Age. That game was a Baulder's Gate style tactical RPG and is apparently evolving into something more akin to the beloved Mass Effect 2. Nor is this a redesign of genre like KOTOR to SW: The Old Republic. I could understand why some fans were upset that they weren't getting a true sequel for that franchise. This rumored new game is a completely separate game just set in the Mass Effect universe. There will still be Mass Effect 3. I don't believe this will be a tacked on multiplayer game like Bioshock 2 or Uncharted 2. I suspect it will be a separate game more on the order of Unreal Tournament where the single player is just a training mode for the online action. It might even be a bit like Tribes where teamwork is vital for success.
And, I don't think it's a bad idea. I'm not a competitive multiplayer person anymore, but if they want some of that COD money, why not go after it? The time is probably right for something since Halo is no longer being created by Bungie and the field of modern day shooters is saturated. Aren't you curious to see if an Adept can take out a Soldier of equal skill or visa-versa?
Actually, thinking about things tactically doesn't require a pause screen, it just requires you to think faster." First thing that comes to mind when I think of turning ME into a multiplayer game is "clusterfuck". Just a bunch of people jamming on their powers when they see an enemy, with no pause screen to go about things tactically. "
@PenguinDust: And what are you talking about? The multiplayer in BioShock 2 and Uncharted 2 is actually really fun, with some pretty original gameplay.
" @Binman88 said:Of course, and a pause screen wouldn't work in multiplayer anyway. My point was that if you were to just take ME2 and shoe-horn multiplayer into it, it has the potential to lose any of the tactical qualities of the single player, with people running around corners just ready to hit the "overload" button as soon as an opponent comes into their crosshairs. No matter how fast your brain is working, repetitive spam will beat the speed of your thought process in those sorts of encounters. However, like I followed up in a more recent post, I would hope Bioware would know what they're doing, and I'll add that I have faith in their ability to make something more than a multiplayer 3rd person cover-based shooter.Actually, thinking about things tactically doesn't require a pause screen, it just requires you to think faster." First thing that comes to mind when I think of turning ME into a multiplayer game is "clusterfuck". Just a bunch of people jamming on their powers when they see an enemy, with no pause screen to go about things tactically. "
@PenguinDust: And what are you talking about? The multiplayer in BioShock 2 and Uncharted 2 is actually really fun, with some pretty original gameplay. "
" @BunkerBuster said:The biggest game they've ever made is not a single player game." If anyone can get it done its Bioware. "Bioware makes single player RPGs. Not online shooters. "
" @BeachThunder said:" Ew =( Why would they do this? "Because ever since CoD 4 every company think every freaking game should have MP, that's why. Also gamers are not any help since they are the ones screaming for MP as if that feature will justify the money they spent...SP is a dying breed. I think every developer should have this written on their walls.
NOT EVRY GAME NEEDS TO HAVE MULTI PLAYER!
this makes me wanna go out and burn my Mass Effect game copy Tim Bisley style. "
Man that sounds awful! However there IS a CHASM a mile
wide long & deep for a sci-fi FPS shooter with Halo having
announced its retirement. EVE Online is working on one for
Consoles as well. If Bioware doesn't make it, then likely the
next COD will move into the future to steal a chunk of Sci-fi market
share. Where else will COD go? It's covered WW2, Modern,
Black Ops...Now it just has WW3, Space, & Far Future Space
to jump into as gamers will probably get bored with Modern.
Could be that Bioware wants to take over Halo. Put in a big
FPS war for Mass Effect in the spirit of a Halo-style campaign.
It actually sounds pretty intriguing (although I'd rather the Space
War be done in RPG format, not FPS shooter format).
Anyway, I really hope the new Bioware game is not an FPS. I
was hoping they were gonna make something original to the
IP not emulate Activision. One of these days people are gonna
get tired of COD. They've had 3 releases of "Modern" so far &
they're just a little better each time. I don't know why everyone
gets so excited about it & buys it on release. I guess you have
to be an adrenalin junkie to appreciate it.
Man if I had to choose, I'd hope that the new Bioware game is
a third-person shooter war & not an FPS, if there is going to be
more RPG. OTOH, if you guys aren't getting enough Mass Effect
RPG, there is always Star Trek Online! :-)
Just look at Mass Effect 2 and you'll know what this game is already, and it isn't as painful as you might think
- The Shooting - has been revamped from the first ME to be more 'shootery' - and to that point just before ME2 came out Bioware said they were targeting the CoD audience
- The Powers - have been mapped to shortcut buttons - negating the -need- to pop open the radial menu for Shepard's powers (note that I said need and not option) - I very much doubt you'd have an AI controlled squad in any kind of ME so that takes care of that.
- The Business - All EA games in 2011 will have online play and DLC, no doubt Online Play will be much like their sports games and be a part of Project Ten Dollar
It's not going to be as bad as everyone thinks - and this is total speculation but I would imagine much like AC:BH we'll get a side story (maybe dip back into the ME history, First Contact, Krogan, or Rachni Wars) with a shorter Single Player story (with one or two tiny bits of info for super ME Nerds) and then the Big Paid Beta for ME3's Multiplayer. Bioware sits pretty high in my book (as I imagine quite a few other people's as well), the only time I felt like they were fucking around was with the DA:O DLC - everything for both ME and ME2 has been perfect. Can't knock it till I get my hands on it.
@PenguinDust: And what are you talking about? The multiplayer in BioShock 2 and Uncharted 2 is actually really fun, with some pretty original gameplay. "The quality of the multiplayer isn't the question as much as the perception of why it was added. That appears to be the same roadblock that this rumored Mass Effect game is encountering as I read through the replies. A stand alone product is better able to craft it's own identity separate from the core franchise since it isn't thought of as an afterthought or a cheap cash-in. These days, I feel that any single player game that includes competitive multiplayer in any sequel will meet that same opposition by fans. Therefore, Bioshock 2's and Uncharted 2's online multiplayer feel tacked on regardless of how meritorious the final product actually is. It might not be fair, but that's the way things seem to be. Perception defines success.
" Just look at Mass Effect 2 and you'll know what this game is already, and it isn't as painful as you might thinkME History would be cool, didn't think about that. Not sure how I would feel about not playing Shepard in "modern" mass effect, but I could certainly see something like first contact. Krogan or Rachni wars, less likely, I am not sure if the humans were around then (could be wrong, don't remember the history that well), and dude in the teaser is human.It's not going to be as bad as everyone thinks - and this is total speculation but I would imagine much like AC:BH we'll get a side story (maybe dip back into the ME history, First Contact, Krogan, or Rachni Wars) with a shorter Single Player story (with one or two tiny bits of info for super ME Nerds) and then the Big Paid Beta for ME3's Multiplayer. Bioware sits pretty high in my book (as I imagine quite a few other people's as well), the only time I felt like they were fucking around was with the DA:O DLC - everything for both ME and ME2 has been perfect. Can't knock it till I get my hands on it. "
- The Shooting - has been revamped from the first ME to be more 'shootery' - and to that point just before ME2 came out Bioware said they were targeting the CoD audience
- The Powers - have been mapped to shortcut buttons - negating the -need- to pop open the radial menu for Shepard's powers (note that I said need and not option) - I very much doubt you'd have an AI controlled squad in any kind of ME so that takes care of that.
- The Business - All EA games in 2011 will have online play and DLC, no doubt Online Play will be much like their sports games and be a part of Project Ten Dollar
" Just look at Mass Effect 2 and you'll know what this game is already, and it isn't as painful as you might thinkThat doesn't work though. A sci-fi game isn't "real enough" as cod
- The Shooting - has been revamped from the first ME to be more 'shootery' - and to that point just before ME2 came out Bioware said they were targeting the CoD audience
games appear to be based on human events with human guns, look,
& feel. Not that many of them cared for Halo, so why would they give
a care about Mass Effect? They don't believe in shields, etc. For cod
players, the sci-fi game doesn't give a suspension of disbelief. I'm a
Mass Effect fan. A Halo fan. Heck, even a Star Trek Online fan. :P So
for me, whatever Bioware comes out with will be pure gravy & I'll be
buying it on release anyway. I don't really see it taking over cod, unless
cod starts moving into sci-fi territory (which may tick off the existing
player base).
I just hope that they can find some way to make it actually fit in with the Mass Effect universe and story, and not shoehorn in a big war between all the races just for this game.
I'm usually for bending the story for better gameplay, but when it comes to Mass Effect, I think the story should come first.
Future CoDs will head into the future farther than 2009's MW2 which took place in 2016. I personally look forward to multiplayer ME action because I dig the art direction and the style of it all, be it ME1 or ME2 or a mixture I've long wanted a multiplayer component. It'll be a multi-platform Halo - maybe not in sales numbers or hype but still!
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