Honestly am just tired of either having "pros" doing 60% combos with ermac if you even do anything other then block, or the scrub running and spamming grab. He ruins the pace of every fight, who's idea was it to have  a character that had control over the entire screen? Even if you don't make a mistake, his grab dominates every other animation, and boom there goes 60% of your life with a piss easy combo.  This game is starting to wear thin on me, either people just spam one special, or wait for one opening and spam one combo over and over.

People need to give this game time to simmer down and that includes Netherealm.

He doesn't need to be removed, however you do need to learn how to deal with him. 

Oh rage threads... Coming from an ermac player there are ways to beat him you just need to sit down and figure it out maybe play as him your self to figure it out.

Learn the match up with your character.

Which grab are you talking about? The lift or the push? Well I'm not sure it matters because he can be hit out of both. Just don't spam combos or random moves and you'll do better. If that's what you're doing cause I haven't played you.

from the little ive followed of MK tournamentes, its kung lao thats raping it up, not ermac so...

Game's terrible for vs. stranger online type shit  due to balance and all that
 
It's more of a play with friends thing. Accept it and move on

from the little ive followed of MK tournamentes, its kung lao thats raping it up, not ermac so...

from the little ive followed of MK tournamentes, its kung lao thats raping it up, not ermac so...

You should just mod the game to play "fair" like those weirdos who modded Super Smash Bros Melee rules into Brawl.

Use Breakers.

@blueduck said:

Use Breakers.

Agree..people think X-ray is important, while it can be somewhat useful if you want a fast ender for a round but majority of the time its blocked...Breakers is pretty much the must have for any match sets to prevent getting blown up and looking like a scrub.

Shit just remove all the characters from the game cause people have problems. It seems like no matter what the game, if there is an online portion, people will find the time to bitch and moan about a weapon, character, etc, etc. Do people take the time to learn and adapt anymore, or do we all just rage on the closest internet forum we can type into the address bar?

If Ermac should be removed so should Kung, Raiden, Cage, Nightwolf, Kano, Sub. 
 
Just get rid of all the high tier characters and the game will be balanced!

@NovaDTH said:

Just get rid of all the high tier characters and the game will be balanced!

You;re not going far enough. Get rid of all characters and the game will be balanced as hell.

Play as Raiden.

@NovaDTH said:

Just get rid of all the high tier characters and the game will be balanced!

You;re not going far enough. Get rid of all characters and the game will be balanced as hell.

@damswedon said:

@NovaDTH said:

Just get rid of all the high tier characters and the game will be balanced!

You;re not going far enough. Get rid of all characters and the game will be balanced as hell.

Now you're just being silly. Just have one character for everyone to play and master. That way anything your opponent can do, you can do! Uncomplainable!

It's a sad reality that to become good at fighting games you have to sacrifice fun for winning...  
but hey, if you want fun just invite some scrub friends over and make your own tournaments, it's the best way, really

@Slaker117 said:

@TheHT said:

@damswedon said:

@NovaDTH said:

Just get rid of all the high tier characters and the game will be balanced!

You;re not going far enough. Get rid of all characters and the game will be balanced as hell.

Now you're just being silly. Just have one character for everyone to play and master. That way anything your opponent can do, you can do! Uncomplainable!

Are you kidding?! The person of the left has such a huge advantage. They need to patch it so both players face the same direction.

Hell why have combos and special moves when you could just have QTE's, Kratos was a step in the right direction.

Honestly am just tired of either having "pros" doing 60% combos with ermac if you even do anything other then block, or the scrub running and spamming grab. 

He ruins the pace of every fight, who's idea was it to have  a character that had control over the entire screen? Even if you don't make a mistake, his grab dominates every other animation, and boom there goes 60% of your life with a piss easy combo. 

 This game is starting to wear thin on me, either people just spam one special, or wait for one opening and spam one combo over and over.

@Slaker117 said:

Are you kidding?! The person on the left has such a huge advantage. They need to patch it so both players face the same direction.

Easy fix. Mirror player 2's screen and controls. Still boned if you're playing local though.

On topic, I also have trouble against Ermac. I'm not very good though so I can't say how far-reaching the problem is. I just play really aggressively and hope for the best.

@Slaker117 said:

@TheHT said:

@damswedon said:

@NovaDTH said:

Just get rid of all the high tier characters and the game will be balanced!

You;re not going far enough. Get rid of all characters and the game will be balanced as hell.

Now you're just being silly. Just have one character for everyone to play and master. That way anything your opponent can do, you can do! Uncomplainable!

Are you kidding?! The person of the left has such a huge advantage. They need to patch it so both players face the same direction.

Hell why have combos and special moves when you could just have QTE's, Kratos was a step in the right direction.

@Beaudacious: I'm an Ermac player and he can be hit out of the lift. Maybe I'm just bad at timing wake up specials but he can't really do anything once you knock him down. It sounds like you don't actually want to play the game but want to just mash buttons. Don't just mash random combos you WILL get lifted. There's enough time in between combos to lift you if you try to follow up. If he blocks you're first couple of attacks just end the combo prematurely and/or block. You should have enough time to punish him if he attempts a lift. Unless there's lag but that usually messes everybody up. And of course whiffing moves in front of him is a bad idea.

@TechHits said:

He doesn't need to be removed, however you do need to learn how to deal with him.

LOL. This is mean and funny at the same time.

I play a guy called xStingy who plays the best Ermac I've seen on MK online. Rushes down, with some good combos and mix-ups. From what I've played against him, you're an idiot if you jump around all over the place, since those gravity grabs hurt. Blockdash, rush him down before he gets the opportunity. And watch that wake-up. Ermac is very good at being aggressive from pretty much any place on the stage-he isn't anywhere near as good at taking it.
 You're blocking way too much if he's grabbing you-what character(s) are you playing anyway? Just get close by blockdashing (once you block enough of the invisible grabs he'll stop) and get your hits in. Teleport in if you can, but there's no rush. Get in, no matter how long it takes, and then don't stop smashing him round the face.
 Also, without Enhanced, I don't think Ermac can do more than 50% damage.
 
RushRushRush!

@Slaker117 said:

Are you kidding?! The person on the left has such a huge advantage. They need to patch it so both players face the same direction.

Easy fix. Mirror player 2's screen and controls. Still boned if you're playing local though.

@imsh_pl: I think that would hurt my brain somehow.

@GoofyGoober said:

Shit just remove all the characters from the game cause people have problems. It seems like no matter what the game, if there is an online portion, people will find the time to bitch and moan about a weapon, character, etc, etc. Do people take the time to learn and adapt anymore, or do we all just rage on the closest internet forum we can type into the address bar?

Meh..this is nothing..wait til SSFIV AE is released..THEN you will see the bitchfest with the Yun/Yang domination (supposedly overpowered / broken characters so far)...

@Beaudacious said:

Honestly am just tired of either having "pros" doing 60% combos with ermac if you even do anything other then block, or the scrub running and spamming grab. He ruins the pace of every fight, who's idea was it to have a character that had control over the entire screen? Even if you don't make a mistake, his grab dominates every other animation, and boom there goes 60% of your life with a piss easy combo. This game is starting to wear thin on me, either people just spam one special, or wait for one opening and spam one combo over and over.

Oh no, your opponents aren't playing the way you want them to. You complain about something being overpowered when really you're just upset that no one will go easy on a weak player. Think about it, assuming the one combo people are spamming against you is Ermac's most damaging combo, then they would be stupid NOT to do it.

Anyways, both of his telekinetic grab attacks are punishable on block and can be interrupted by pokes. You can go through them with any armored move. If you get grabbed you can breaker out. If he's grabbing you out of attacks then maybe you should try something that comes out faster or try being less predictable.

Oh, and Dhalsim has been controlling the entire screen since 1991.

Hmm, I'm probably wrong, but I'm curious to see this 60% combo that Ermac can pull out over and over easily. Seem to remember some pretty well-known fighting guy playing Ermac at UFGT and his go-to combo was like 41%, but dropped down really low if he missed a hit or two in the beginning of it. A quick search on youtube and the only non-X-ray combo that goes that high is a corner combo that uses 2 bars.

rub a dub dub... scrubs in a tub

how bout we make it a rule that we all play sheeva? that should be fair, right?

Lol at this thread.

If you don't know how to punish Ermac, stop playing.

If this is the mindset your bring into online gaming then I have some bad news for you.

Being an Ermac player myself I gotta say the best thing to do against Ermac is  get in his face and DON'T LET UP.   If you give Ermac any breathing room he can setup a nice defensive barrier with his  force grab and chip away at you. 
 
Also, once you get close use cross ups constantly.  Using cross ups makes Ermac's lift at close range effing useless.   And ALWAY ALWAYS  expect a force grab on wakeup.     And never jump in on a Ermac player either. 
 
There are ways around Ermac  but he is a defensive character by nature so you should expect most Ermac players to try to combat you at mid to full screen because that is obviously where he has the most advantage. 
 
So either... get good or bitch your choice.  There are ways around him.    

Insert picture of baby crying here and then say that this thread appears for every fighting game and that the real problem is the player losing because they haven't learned to deal with the opponent and not the actual character being fought against.  So use more skill.

A good Ermac will always want to keep you out, that's just the nature of the character. Calling Ermac cheap is like calling Sagat or Ryu cheap. Those characters aren't cheap, but they certainly can seem grossly overpowered to bad players who mindlessly rush in. To get close to Ermac, cancel your dashes with blocks to close the gap while avoiding the force push and space your jumps out so that he can't anti air you. Try to keep your jumps to a minimum, however. Once you're in close, Ermac is trash. Most of his blocks strings are slow and he doesnt have a string that starts with a low that leads into big damage. You just have to patiently navigate through Ermac's obstacle course and then once you get in on him, stay in on him. Also, don't be a scrub and get hit with wakeup tele-slams, bait that shit out and punish it.
 
It's always depressing when newcomers to fighting games dub things as "cheap". It's been happening since Street fighter 2 when idiots couldn't figure out how to get past Ryu's fireball/uppercut game. The worst are the players who think the only "fair" type of game is a game where you're both in each other's faces mashing buttons.

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