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Why doesn't God just destroy Satan? (Answer included)

So I was talking to one of my friends and we had an interesting discussion on Satan and God. I'll go ahead and share the whole thing. 
 
"Hey, I read somewhere that Lucifer being an angel was made out of fire, and all of the angels loved God and adored him, and when God made man, he made him out of clay, and commanded that the angels bow down to them and love them unconditionally as well, but Lucifer loved God so much that he couldn't bow down to anyone else, and he felt that man was inferior to him being made out of clay, so God cast him out of Heaven, away from his love, I'm sure there's more to it but what do you think?"

 
Me: "That's more of an embellishment on what the Biblical text actually states. The Bible does say that the Father made us out of "the earth" (which could be translated as "clay" I suppose) and it does say that Lucifer was essentially jealous OF GOD. It could therefore be interpreted by extension that he was also jealous of man because of man's privelaged position above the angels and all of God's creatures. Also, Lucifer didn't disobey God out of love. No matter how someone wants to twist it. And Lucifer wasn't made of fire, but the Bible states that he was the most beautiful of the angels, was a musical being and was covered in jewels that shone throughout the Heavens."
 
"What about him fighting God? He would have to know he wouldn't win."
 
Me: "Well, that's kind of like saying that Adolf Hitlar would have to know that he couldn't conquer the entire world. But he sure thought he could and was damn well confident enough that he nearly succeeded. Likewise, it says that a third of the angels were deceived by and followed Lucifer. Thus they too were also cast out of Heaven along with Lucifer for their treachery. Therefore Satan was able to convince a third of God's angels that HE was right and God was wrong. Could be he defeat God? No. But he damn well tried. And he knew that angels aren't God, and therefore could be deceived. And they were"
 
"Surely Satan must listen to people talk, he would have to ponder the thought that he isn't gonna win."

 
Me:  "At this point it isn't so much about Satan winning, it's about how much he can corrupt before his time is up. God couldn't be defeated but those that love God can be lead astray from God due to Satan's deception and lies which he uses to sow "seeds of doubt and discord". 
 
"Well no I mean like he can't be stupid enough not to listen in to me or you talk verbally, or see what we're typing."
  
Me: "Satan is a (fallen)angel. Therefore SATAN IS NOT omnipresent or omniscient like God is. That means that Satan cannot be in more than one place at any one time and Satan's knowledge IS limited. He can't read minds. Satan is immortal but God ultimately has power over him. So Satan is immortal but he's no god. Satan cannot create another being and give it life. In fact Satan is the opposite. While God commands us to build up others and not tear them down (love your neighbor as you love yourself), Satan is the polar opposite. He comes to 'steal, kill and destroy" and roams over the Earth "seeking whom he may devour." Satan is not ultimately concerned about WHAT he pollutes your mind with, it's what knowledge he can keep out of your mind (that of God) by keeping you distracted or deceived into believing otherwise the truth and knowledge of God that is his goal. And he does a damn good job of it. "Enter ye the narrow gate: for wide is the path, and broad is the way that leadeth to destruction." 
 
"Why wouldn't God just like, jail him so to speak to cause him from doing all this?"
 
Me: "Because Satan's "life" and the consequences of his choices are still being "played out" as our's are. It is because of the sin that Satan wrought that true love is created. Because true love is a choice and comes from free will. Forced love is not love at all, therefore we have to choose between God's path and the "path that leads to destruction". You can't have light without darkness and you can't have good without evil. It's as simple as that."
 
Now for the best song about Satan from my favorite Christian band. 
Let's all sing together now, "My hands have taught me terrible things/HIS HANDS HAVE SET ME FREE!"
 
 
 

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It's an interesting fairy tale for sure.

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(Reading the first 2-3 responses) What the fuck happened to intelligent discussion and diverse viewpoints on GB forums? THIS IS NOT FUCKING 4CHAN, GET YOUR "COOL STORY BRO" BULLSHIT OUT OF HERE.

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I shouted out, who killed the Kennedy's but after all, it was you and me. Let me please introduce myself.

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The OP is just trying to state his opinions just like all of you are.  I read the entire thing and he said nothing in the post that is offensive to anyone else.  So why do a lot of you feel its necessary to attack him?  Nobody is forcing anyone to believe anything here so if you guys don't have anything respectful to say to the guy, then ignore the thread and leave him alone. 

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@astrotriforce said:

" And Lucifer wasn't made of fire, but the Bible states that he was the most beautiful of the angels, was a musical being and was covered in jewels that shone throughout the Heavens."

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@dbz1995 said:
" @CRAzYKiLL3R93 said:
" I have a religious question  Adam + eve = Cain and Able.  Kid wise, what the fuck happened next?!  "
A lot of shit, actually. It is well known that Cain kills Abel, but then Adam has another son called Seth. He lives for another 800 years, giving birth to sons and daughters before dying. But we don't care about them because they didn't have an awesome storyline. "
What do you mean he gives birth?
Shouldn't that be Eve giving birth then?
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@astrotriforce: Hi, well yes satan did try to gang up on god with alot of the angels, what you said about adam and eve was correct. You have to realise that before they were created, satan was like second to god, he was like one of god's best creations, however he is wondering, why in heaven is he not worshipped like god. He was very jealous of god and also of his new creation.  
  
One thing I was told is like a chef (metaphor) you always teach your student almost everything, except your just a bit more powerful incase they rebel against you. Satan was kicked onto earth with his fallen angels. The only problem was satan and his angels no longer possessed a body, yet adam and eve still did. You have to realise that, without a body, they are just energy. I have been studying the paranormal lately and found that ufo's are not spacecraft, however they are these angels without a body. You also realise they have the power to decieve ppl. World governments subscribe to this satanic cult, for demon possession to be in power. Other ppl usually try to contact the spirits with a medium. Look god is the ruler in heaven, however because of free will which was given to adam and eve, satan is the ruler of earth. Most of society is already controlled by his will and world leaders, even musicians. With this free will, god can't jail satan, rather confine him to earth. So far satan has sucessfuly got everyone with his influence of satanic worshippers (hey study illuminati, however they relate to governments, entertainment industry if you want to see satan's work) He sucessfully got others to stop beliving in god, I have talked to nothing but athesist lately. Even satan cults gave the world hypnosis, introduced the evolution theory by darwin raised by illuminati, atomic bomb from satanic alchemy created and discussed in the boheimian society. It's been said in the bible there will be an anti christ, some thinks it's obama, which will create a new world order, one world government. That's predicted in the bible, they which will probally happen like in a few years. Satan will rule the earth fully then. It's prophesied in the bible that god or jesus will come back on earth a second time and throw satan in a lake of sulpher, which is suppose to burn up this energy and take back free will and create heaven on earth. However the satanic cults are saying that god will just give up, there will be no war and will just let satan rule the earth. I disagree, however my research revealed all these things. Satan knows right now god or the creator has no right to mess with anything to do with earth, that's not his place. The only think he did do was send jesus to die for our sins, that's his only tresspass, among other things or stories in the bible. However this world is mostly satanic, to a point no one even belives in spirits, god or an afterlife. They have been so decieved they basically given up their soul and that's what satan wants. To the illuminati, they call these ppl sheep.
 
About music, it's nice to see a christian band, it was said god created music when satan was born to celebrate his birth. So it's something that really is important to dumb down society with alot of subliminal occult messages. I belive most of these muscians are not that talented, however they traded their soul for sucess, they probally tried to talk to spirtual mediums who worship the dead and did this. Music was one of the tools to keep everyone dumb, it controls our ears and what we hear. I hope my perspective gives you more perspective because I did a lot of research on the topic. I know not everyone will understand my references here since I made alot. It's a puzzle I put together none of you can see because you think it's funny or something. If it's written in the bible, it's been said it's the book of truth, it's clear satan is so powerful today, he suceeded. I mean if illuminati are occultist or freemasonary and world leaders subscribe to demonic practices and possess, if that's evil and it's influence, then there probally might be a good. I mean if there is all this evil, even build into famous architure with demonic symbols, behind the scenes bankers for the federal reserve bankrupting the nation, even through war, they all use the demonic symbol with their hands, there must be good somewhere.  
 
Evil as it exist today.  
  
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@Fragstoff said:
" @astrotriforce:   God won't destroy Satan because they are both made up and one imaginary character cannot destroy another imaginary character     "
You obviously don't watch wnough anime, then.
 
@Tennmuerti: Sorry, poor writing on my part.
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What really is imagination and theoritical is evolution. Science says we were a bunch of evolved apes? Darwin was an illuminati puppet raised to give us a false interpretation by the church of satan. Yet we have a conitive brain unlike every other creature in the world besides god, demons. No one can think like us, where do we get this ability? Nothing else evolved to our level to have the free will to think. With your freedom god given everyone, you choose to be ruled by the government like sheep. Let them do the thinking, let them control what you see, think and hear in the media. You think you are your own god, your are good, you are not full of sin, you think movies with aliens which are just flying demons by the way deciving us with fake alien abductions which will disapear if you say jesus's name a few times. We simply just shrug it off and say, well that' not demons, it's just sleep paraylisis, end of discussion. Or satanic music is suppose to be good for you, yet you complain why is our music so dumbed down lately, you ask this question often. It's to dumb down society on purpose and introduce occult subliminal imagery. Lady gaga is a illuminit puppet, same with untalent rappers like lil wayne or jay-zee which doesn't even rhyme well. We are a nation who is easily maniplated by what we see and what we hear. Yet you see me posting videos on the forum which shows the same satanic symbols all over government buildings and architeture, yet you just say it was a coincidence. I mean there is the illuminati symbols on american currency, it's all around you, yet you don't even know it.  

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BECAUSE HE CAN'T. 
 
Gods can't kill other gods! oh wait i'm thinking of the Greek Gods. 
 
The Greek gods made more sense than any gods in any religion though because they actualy had some scientific shit thrown in Greek mythology, even the whole origin of the universe in Greek mythology makes more sense than the Christian origin lol. If i believed any religion i'd follow the Greek one!
 
Also Evolution is not a theory, its a fact,  the word "Theory" in science is not used in the same way you use it everyday.

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That is pretty much the Islamic viewpoint on the matter (slight things altered). God allows the devil to exist so that we humans are tested (ie the purpose of life).

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Because, Christianity needs the devil for their scape goat when ever something bad happens or their all mighty god starts to look like an even bigger cunt then he already is. 
 
Examples:

  • Why oh god did you let that village of thousands of innocent people who did nothing but devote their lives to worshiping you and you almightyness die in such a painful and horrific way? Devil did it.
  • Oh god, why are millions of people dieing from such painful and honorific disease every second of every day? Why did you even create such awful things in the first place to torture us so? Devil did it.
  • If we are all made in your image, then how come there is so much evil in the world? Devil corrupts.
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@HitmanAgent47: You put waaaaay too much effort into your trolling. I bet some will even miss it an take it seriously.
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@GunnBjorn said:
" Yep, you treatise pretty much sums up the 'Universal Impugnment'. I've been (in)doctrinated in that matter since the cradle by my mom who is a JW. Metallica's 'Dyers Eve' has been my anthem ever since I realized how I've been brainwashed all these years. 'Undying spite I feel for you, living out this hell you always knew!' "
Yeah one of my best friends comes from a family of Jehova's Witnesses. Thankfully he was able to break out of it with our help (mostly just loving on him and showing him the light). His little bro Guillermo, who was the one most enraptured/brain-washed, is also now dating my sister who's a non-denominational Christian like me. Which is 100% against his religion. But despite that he has always liked my sis since they were kids. He is still doing some JW stuff but I think his faith in it has drifted quite a long ways. At least he isn't as rigid as he once was (for example, he finally celebrated his b-day and he went with us to see fireworks for the first time in his life this Foutth of July, since Jehova's aren't allowed to celebrate holidays, that was a first. As you can imagine he was cuddling with my sis the whole time and having fun being with us, so I think he had a great time). 
 
For you information I've studied Islam, Wicca, Buddhism, Mormonism, Jehova's Witness, and cults in general, and know quite a bit about tribal religions and Native American faiths because of a few of my friends who come from that background. Likewise I have a few friends who were raised Christians who are now in their rebellious stage, so those who think a modern-day kid is just going to listen to and believe everything their parents say is ridiculous. Christian-raised or not. My current Bible study leader/friend is going for his Master's and studied psychology extensively as well, so I think there is a wide mix of viewpoints that I've learned from. Eventually you reach a point where you choose what you believe in. And ain't no shame in going back to what your parents taught you and seeing it through a fresh perspective once you have knowledge of other things.  Just because they said it doesn't make it not true you know.
 
I wasn't going to come back to comment on this post cause I knew what it has probably turned into, but holy crap I can't believe it reached four pages already. Last I checked it was at one just a few hours ago....
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@astrotriforce said:
" I wasn't going to come back to comment on this post cause I knew what it has probably turned into, but holy crap I can't believe it reached four pages already. Last I checked it was at one just a few hours ago.... "
So you just wanted to shit in the pool then leave? Brilliant.
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Apparently most of the GB community has turned from intelligent to a dickhead with ADD. The OP post wasn't even all that long. 
 
Interesting read there. I don't know much about Christianity or religion, but I enjoyed the read. There's really not much I can contribute to this thread.

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@PenguinDust said:
" I read it and while it is true that religion on forum boards doesn't usually go over well (unless you are condemning it) I didn't find this is particular post as anything controversial.  It was an interesting conversation with a viewpoint set within its format.  If you've seen the movie Waking Life, that's how most of the story is told.  People just talking about big big subjects as comfortably as many of us discuss levels and game play.  And, I would agree with the OT's summation that for free will to exist we must have choice.  As a person journeys through their life, challenges and decisions face them, and what path they choose along the way will ultimately lead to a destination.  Followers of the faith believe humankind will stand before God's judgment one day and account for his sins.  Temptation to stray from God's path is formed by our weaknesses and exploited by the Devil.  And, so he exists to provide that promise.  But, as was impressed in the recent Brink video here on Giant Bomb, no one sets out knowingly on a path towards evil.  The road to damnation can be subtle built from seemingly small pebbles of selfishness, arrogance and desire.  There is a great line at the end of 1995's The Usual Suspects, "The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist."   A lot of people prefer the idea of being unaccountable for their misdeeds.  It's called getting away with it.   "
I am perusing for now and reading each post. I'll reply to great ones like this. Congrats man. Thanks for an intelligent response. The sad truth is that this is how topics of importance like politics and religion should be discussed. But in the world today you can't even bring up God without all of the talk you see in threads like this one coming up. Zeb is not a Christian or a believer per se, but he's a kid with a lot of questions. All I was doing was providing my answers to his questions based on my knowledge, and like you said all I did was present that. I thought it was an interesting conversation. And it is for anyone with half a brain. I'd be just as interested to hear a Muslim or Wiccan's answers to these questions. Though I already know it having looked into them. But there is something to be said for a frank conversation about one's believes and people shouldn't be so quick to dismiss it. I wish I could have a conversation like this with my Muslim friend who lives in Saudi Arabia, but sadly she'll have none of it. People are less tolerant of free speech over there. Which is why I can never visit her.  
 
But anyway, kudos to you! :)
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@TMThomsen said:
" @astrotriforce said:
[...Well there's a first time for everything. The more people out there like me who try and actually discuss things intelligently...]
Sorry, but when you start defending a religion "intelligently", you've already lost. "
No sir I think you have lost. Just my opinion ;)
 
@Stilblad said:
" @astrotriforce: So you are still into those ancient fairy tales? "
I'm into life and love and helping broken souls like Zeb here, who's dad is in a comma btw. So yes.
 
@NekuSakuraba said:
" Wow, I actually read all that!   Great work! :D "
Thank you! :) 
 
@SuperSecretAgenda said:
" See, this probably would have been a better idea to post on a religious forum. Not a gaming forum.  No one takes religious topics seriously here. "
It doesn't matter. Some people will read it and get something out of it. In fact most people DO NOT comment. So I have no problem in sharing. :)
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 @astrotriforce said:

" But in the world today you can't even bring up God without all of the talk you see in threads like this one coming up. "

You get these responses because to most of the people in this thread, God exists as much as Edward Cullen.
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Oh religious threads
I'm a Christian myself but these message boards are not the best place for discussion on religion

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@Red12b said:

" @astrotriforce:  The video will be too big for people who have small resolution, like me, The site is meant to be viewed 1280 but I view it in 1024 so it's a bit massive.   "

Oh dang sorry. I meant to fix that but forgot about it. I'll do so pronto. :) When I posted it originally I didn't know what size to make it. Forgot you could select a smaller size on youtube. :P
 
@gosukiller said:

" @Erzs said:

" One cannot destroy that which does not exist! "

 
"
Hahahahaa, awesome. I loved this episode. @CitizenKane said:

" @astrotriforce:  If you like that sort of stuff, read Paradise Lost.  Really amazing story on the battle between, Lucifer, God, and Man in the beginning.  It portrays Lucifer as a somewhat sympathetic anti-hero.  A man aware of his own faults, but realizing that he can not change so he comes to grips with himself and his purpose(God made him so he would rebel against his throne later) and carries it out as so.  You can read an awesome monologue by Lucifer in my See mini bio section.  It takes place after the war and he traversing the abyss past Earth and Man towards his own throne in Hell. "

Awesome man thanks for the recommendation. I'll have to read it. Actually, a young friend of mine has a VERY OLD copy of Paradise Lost that she got from her grandma. I had never heard of it before somehow and we came across it on accident when looking through this old chest of her's that she had full of stuff. Both us like to read, so when she saw the book she pulled it out of the bottom and showed me (she also is a searching soul. Wasn't raised as a believer but has always had a strong faith despite the extreme secularism of the rest of her family. But meeting someone like me has lead her more back to it when she compares how she is treated by said family to how I treat her. Her grandma is a believer though and gave her a kids Bible when she was like 5. Last October, I bought her a Bible with her name engraved on it for Halloween, which is her favorite holiday).
 
 Anyway, I was AMAZED when she showed me the book at the freakin' incredible artwork of angels and demons and whatnot. I'm still going to scan it all sometime. Don't quote me cause I'm bad with dates and such but it was like 1920's or older. Like crazy old.  I was scared to borrow it and still kinda am in case it somehow got ruined.
 
Anyway I saw it after playing Dante's Inferno, which I thought was a totally awesome game. I am definitely looking forward to seeing their take on the rest of the Divine Comedy which I hope they do.  And although I had read the Divine Comedy before playing the game, it revived my interest and i still plan on going back to read it again.
 
@bolsita_de_te said:

" The OP is just trying to state his opinions just like all of you are.  I read the entire thing and he said nothing in the post that is offensive to anyone else.  So why do a lot of you feel its necessary to attack him?  Nobody is forcing anyone to believe anything here so if you guys don't have anything respectful to say to the guy, then ignore the thread and leave him alone.  "

Thanks dude :) I still get a kick out of reading some of the non-intelligent answers anyway. lol. It's not like I take anything personally.

@HitmanAgent47: I'll go ahead and skip responding to this sorry. But thanks for the post anyway :)
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@astrotriforce:
Uhh... I thought he rejected God the moment he was made.
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@Meteora said:
" Apparently most of the GB community has turned from intelligent to a dickhead with ADD. The OP post wasn't even all that long.  Interesting read there. I don't know much about Christianity or religion, but I enjoyed the read. There's really not much I can contribute to this thread. "
Thanks. :) That's fine, like I said I posted this just to share. I wasn't planning on discussing it necessarily cause I know how people generally react to it (let's post clips from South Park, YEAHHHH!). And now I've spent an hour responding to people. Hahahahha. It's fine though. Thanks for the kind comments again and glad you got something out of it. 
 
Like I said in a response to another person, far more people read threads than actually reply. So I think a lot more people will get something out of it than we know of. 
 
PS: What does "OP" stand for exactly? "Original Poster" or "Original Post"? That must be it. lol.
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@astrotriforce: Original Poster; but I use it interchangeably with Original Post.
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@astrotriforce said:
" @TMThomsen said:
" @astrotriforce said:
[...Well there's a first time for everything. The more people out there like me who try and actually discuss things intelligently...]
Sorry, but when you start defending a religion "intelligently", you've already lost. "
No sir I think you have lost. Just my opinion ;)
 
Really? What is your reason to believe in a god?
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@TMThomsen said:
" @astrotriforce said:
[...Well there's a first time for everything. The more people out there like me who try and actually discuss things intelligently...]
Sorry, but when you start defending a religion "intelligently", you've already lost. "

Awesome.
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@TMThomsen said:
" @astrotriforce said:
[...Well there's a first time for everything. The more people out there like me who try and actually discuss things intelligently...]
Sorry, but when you start defending a religion "intelligently", you've already lost. "
This is actually a great point.
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I'm sorry that story was a bit too intellectual for me. I'm gonna watch  Futurama online.

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@KingWilly: Hahahaha, Joe Pesci.  I love George Carlin.
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@TMThomsen said:
" @astrotriforce said:
[...Well there's a first time for everything. The more people out there like me who try and actually discuss things intelligently...]
Sorry, but when you start defending a religion "intelligently", you've already lost. "
You are racist against Religionist, this is offensatory and i will not be opressed like this, Reported. 
 
And you're going to hell just to let you know! have fun burning forever!
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 And until they have this in a church, I ain't gonna believe there is a messiah.  May the force be with you.

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@iKANNIBAL said:

" @TMThomsen said:

" @astrotriforce said:

[...Well there's a first time for everything. The more people out there like me who try and actually discuss things intelligently...]
Sorry, but when you start defending a religion "intelligently", you've already lost. "
You are racist against Religionist, this is offensatory and i will not be opressed like this, Reported.  And you're going to hell just to let you know! have fun burning forever! "
Your bible tells you to do all in your power to save me (and other non-believers) from going to hell. I actually think the Bible states it would be a sin if you don't, but I might be wrong on that.
 
Anyway, I wasn't trying to be offensive. I simply stated that you cannot defend a religion with logic and reason, which, by the judgement of your response, seems to be correct. Thank you.
 
 
Edit: Damn, I got trolled!
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 "Any parent who tortured their children for small infractions would be put in jail, but a heavenly father who puts people in hell for eternity for the same infractions is called 'perfect' and 'holy'. It's not holy. It's sick." - Anonymous

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@Emilio said:
" Please stop mixing up Lucifer with Satan. "
There's a difference. Specifically, Satan is this guy:
 

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@iKANNIBAL: wow bro, thats pretty intense stuff. 
 

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TL:DR version 
 
god wont destroy satan because then there will be no hell and people wont be afraid of doing bad shit
 
UH DUHHHHH

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@jadeskye said:
" @iKANNIBAL: wow bro, thats pretty intense stuff. 
 

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I know! i just made it up in like 2 seconds!  also, in hell you will be forever circumcised for eternity! 
 
I think i could make up my own religion!
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@iKANNIBAL: you should, i heard it's a great way to make a million dollars.
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@jadeskye said:

" @iKANNIBAL: you should, i heard it's a great way to make a million dollars. "

I'm gonna need funding though if i hope to take out the rival religions.
 
What i'm planning to do, is take bits and pieces from other religions and make an entirely new one! and everyone will hopefully follow it because its the new and right one! 
 
Here is how the first chapter of my bible will start 
 
 
 Chapter 1. Origins. 

 " Long ago in the city of Atlantis there lived a superior race called the Atlantians, the source of their power and their prosperity came from Gaia, but the Atlantians soon abused Gaia's power and started using her to create weapons of mass destruction, after years and years of warfare Gaia grew tired of the bullshit and smited the atlantians, just one pimp slap sunk atlantis. Pretty soon the titans had the gods! and the Olympians were born!! Mean while the fake god Yahweh made adam and eve and watched them have sexual relations for fun zeus said screw immaculate conception i'll turn into a bird and screw your mother then he turned to heaven and said my productivity is better ho.

Zeus and the other olympians soon realized that Yahweh was a fake wizard disquised as a god and all his followers were cultist, so Zeus raised his mighty fist and with one blow destroyed Yahweh, his gay heaven! and his evil cultist followers

Infact homosexuality was actualy invented by YAHWEH as he made several sexual advances to Zeus & Poseidon. indeed the wizardry of YAHWEH was strange which is why he had to be destroyed by our all powerful King. After Zeus had learned of such false gods in the world he ordered the olympians to scatter the globe and kill all the gods and mythological creatures of every other culture! many believe that America bombed Japan however this is false, it was actualy Zeus who did it to kill the Pokemanz and the false japanese religion. 
Children of Olympus live among us in secret! many of the greatest inventors were infact Olympians, Da Vinci was an Olympian, Nikola Tesla was also an Olympian, Spartacus was too! These are all well documented facts."
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@Atomasist said:

" @HitmanAgent47:  I heard that the Illuminatis control the PC gaming business. And since you are a PC gamer, how can we trust that your not working for the illuminates and spreading their message via reverse psychology? I got a couple youtube videos that I'll post later, but just think about that question. I have to go trap, kill, and skin my lunch now, so I hope to see your retort when I get back. "


Prove it, that's my response. All you athesist does it say things without any sort of proof as a counter arguement. I only had one intellengent reply yet it was from a different thread. The common themes is I don't belive, science, I hate religion, youtube is not credible. (okay i'll use google videos then)
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Good to know atheists are still being really mature on the internet.  LOL.
 
It's hilarious watching everyone's panties get in a wad over any sort of mention of "God" or anything like that.   This thread was not made to attempt to prove/disprove the existence of a higher power yet sure enough, atheists make it a debate.
 
Chill the fuck out people.  Live and let live.

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@onarum said:
" because neither one of the two exists maybe? "
couldnt say it better
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just cuz

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Religion is dumb. TAADAA!

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Because Christianity is about scaring people into submission and you can't scare people without a boogeyman? 
I always assumed that was the reason.