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Thoughts on David Jaffe's latest outburst

 David Jaffe's apparently suggesting Sony sue Microsoft due to Scrap Metal's title being too close to Twisted Metal...

Not sure how much merit this lawsuit could have. I spent about 40 minutes at PAX talking to both developer's and they assured me they'd never heard of Twisted Metal, let alone had ever played the game. The reference points they brought up were classic arcade top-down racers, games that Scrap Metal more closely resembles.

Sure, there are striking similarities in a lot of Scrap Metal's ideas, but I'd wager Jaffe's envious and wishes his Calling All Cars! game would've received the same reception from critics.

Source: http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/so...icrosoft-jaffe

EuroGamer has also published a disagreeable 4/10 review for Scrap Metal. I understand these European sites trying to emulate EDGE's success by under-rating games, but this just isn't honest.  

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@ryanwho said:

" We need to stop giving this caricature incarnate of a fanboy speaking platforms and validation, cus he's a fucking fool. "

He's often going on about how much he loves nintendo and he plays xbox too, so in what way is he a fanboy? One of his recent posts:

Man, why Nintendo doesn't go ahead and open a mega theme park to rival Disney at this point is beyond me (unless there is just no cash in it). But dude, it would be SO GREAT!

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Hey, there is a game coming out, a 3rd installment of a game franchise he created, lets make some noise and get a little free press cuz even though he had nothing to do with the 3rd game he still wants people to know he made the first one. He needs people to still think he is important after CAC's bombed, he's just pissed that God of War and Twisted Metal are the only games he is known for and he no longer works on GoW and Sony wont let him talk about the new Twisted Metal. And i don't really know where he is getting this comparison, the 2 games have nothing in common besides that they both involve cars with guns, and i'm pretty sure there were games involving cars with guns on them before Twisted Metal. Oh both games have the word METAL in the title, STOP THE PRESSES! All the interviews I have seen with the guy make him look like he is shocking and out spoken purely for the reason of being shocking and out spoken, but the only thing he ever really gets across is that he is an attention whore, and may or may not have a gnarly coke habit.

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@Cube said:
" You honestly believe Jaffe is ENVIOUS?  Get over yourself. He wasn't going off so much as when Kotaku decided to cover him and totally leave out the paragraph where it's clear it was a joke. The whole post was in jest, but apparently people like you just jump on him for nothing. "
 If the original article had clearly been communicated as a joke, the story wouldn't have been picked up elsewhere. If that was Kotaku's goal, to mislead their readers and portray a big industry name in return for hits, I've lost all respect for their site - but I don't think Kotaku would do that. I'm not a fan of their site or even a regular reader, but they have enough credibility not to publish misleading articles. That's all besides the point, though. If you would play both Scrap Metal and Calling All Cars, you'd understand the plausible reasoning for him to be envious.
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nintendo should sue themselves for naming super metroid super metroid because super metroid sounds like super mario

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Jaffee > All

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Scrap Metal looks like a budget turd of a game, even for an XBLA title.  The upgrade paths are useless and the controls are silly.  They literally took what was a good game idea personified in perfection in Rock n Roll Racing and turned it into a shit game because the devs who made this turd are really talentless hacks.  Jaffe might be way off base with his lawsuit but Eurogamer's review is spot on.

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@ryanwho said:
" We need to stop giving this caricature incarnate of a fanboy speaking platforms and validation, cus he's a fucking fool. "
Agreed with this. He's a complete moron.
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sounds like he made a real david GAFFE
 
i'm sorry

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What isn't honest is them saying they have never heard of Twisted Metal.. although it is a ridiculous lawsuite.

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God, the Kotaku office deserves a fucking explosion. I bet in some language "kotaku" means "attention whore".

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@Kazona said:
" @Cube said:
" @Binman88 said:
" @Trilogy said:
" @Binman88 said:
" Those damn Europeans with their opinions. We can't be trusted! "
Admittance is the first step!  Seriously though... I really want to like Jaffe but the guy just can't keep his big mouth shut. "
I think that's what I like about Jaffe. I can't say I always agree with him, but I like the fact that he has certain views and is willing to make them known, regardless of what people think. "
Yeah, I think people stumble over the fact that it's his personal blog, and he is entitled to say anything he wants. "
I agree to an extent. But one thing that he should consider when being as "famous" as he is, people will judge you on everything you say or do. Making crazy claims like this won't do his reputation any favors, but, on the other hand, they always say that even bad publicity is good publicity. "
Yes, I think he knows that. 
 
I think he would have had no problem being covered and quoted if they quoted the whole post though.
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Is Jaffe gonna sue Guan Yu for being known as the God of War :S?

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I normally can't stand David Jaffe, but on these recent bonus round episodes he has been calm, composed, rational, and had a lot of insightful comments. Not to say that he has never been insightful, but it was always mixed in with a lot of crazy.

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@Cube said:
" @Binman88 said:
" @Trilogy said:
" @Binman88 said:
" Those damn Europeans with their opinions. We can't be trusted! "
Admittance is the first step!  Seriously though... I really want to like Jaffe but the guy just can't keep his big mouth shut. "
I think that's what I like about Jaffe. I can't say I always agree with him, but I like the fact that he has certain views and is willing to make them known, regardless of what people think. "
Yeah, I think people stumble over the fact that it's his personal blog, and he is entitled to say anything he wants. "
I agree to an extent. But one thing that he should consider when being as "famous" as he is, people will judge you on everything you say or do. Making crazy claims like this won't do his reputation any favors, but, on the other hand, they always say that even bad publicity is good publicity.
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We need to stop giving this caricature incarnate of a fanboy speaking platforms and validation, cus he's a fucking fool.

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@Binman88 said:
" @Trilogy said:
" @Binman88 said:
" Those damn Europeans with their opinions. We can't be trusted! "
Admittance is the first step!  Seriously though... I really want to like Jaffe but the guy just can't keep his big mouth shut. "
I think that's what I like about Jaffe. I can't say I always agree with him, but I like the fact that he has certain views and is willing to make them known, regardless of what people think. "
Yeah, I think people stumble over the fact that it's his personal blog, and he is entitled to say anything he wants.
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@Trilogy said:
" @Binman88 said:
" Those damn Europeans with their opinions. We can't be trusted! "
Admittance is the first step!  Seriously though... I really want to like Jaffe but the guy just can't keep his big mouth shut. "
I think that's what I like about Jaffe. I can't say I always agree with him, but I like the fact that he has certain views and is willing to make them known, regardless of what people think.
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@Binman88 said:
" Those damn Europeans with their opinions. We can't be trusted! "
Admittance is the first step!
 
Seriously though... I really want to like Jaffe but the guy just can't keep his big mouth shut.
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I wonder if he had a similar outburst when Gears of War was announced...

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@DukeTogo said:
" David Jaffe is a talentless hack who got lucky when Sony handed him God of War to direct.  He's done nothing since but prove he is just that, along with spouting profanity like a little boy who just discovered the word "fuck", and thinks using it every other sentence makes him appear edgy.  He gives game developers a bad name, and he needs to go wherever John Romero went. "

To cell-phone game land?

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@DukeTogo:  I always found he brings very reasonable and often insightful opinions to discussions and interviews, particularly in the latest bonus round on gametrailers.
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David Jaffe is a talentless hack who got lucky when Sony handed him God of War to direct.  He's done nothing since but prove he is just that, along with spouting profanity like a little boy who just discovered the word "fuck", and thinks using it every other sentence makes him appear edgy.
 
He gives game developers a bad name, and he needs to go wherever John Romero went.

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@Red12b said:
" Not having heard of Twisted Metal is a bit off for a Dev though, you'd expect them to know about that,  
I was about to say the same thing!
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You honestly believe Jaffe is ENVIOUS?
 
Get over yourself. He wasn't going off so much as when Kotaku decided to cover him and totally leave out the paragraph where it's clear it was a joke. The whole post was in jest, but apparently people like you just jump on him for nothing.

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Not having heard of Twisted Metal is a bit off for a Dev though, you'd expect them to know about that, 
And everyone is entitled to their own Opinion, that goes for reviewer's Opinions as well, I don't agree with all of the things that the GB crew come up with, but that is my prerogative as a consumer. Doesn't mean I don't respect them, or have a high level of respect for them though.

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He is a little insane, but he gave us God of War. We must always be grateful.

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Jaffe's entertaining, but yeah, he seems a little touched.
I'm guessing Sony's smarter than Jaffe and won't go wasting money on losing lawsuits.

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It's a whole word off. A WHOLE WORD.

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A disagreeable review? Gasp! How dare they publish a review someone could disagree with?!
Also, David Jaffe is batshit crazy.

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@fastkilr said:
"EuroGamer has also published a disagreeable 4/10 review for Scrap Metal. I understand these European sites trying to emulate EDGE's success by under-rating games, but this just isn't honest.   "
Those damn Europeans with their opinions. We can't be trusted!
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...honestly. I'm beginning to think this guy might be a crack addict or something

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 David Jaffe's apparently suggesting Sony sue Microsoft due to Scrap Metal's title being too close to Twisted Metal...

Not sure how much merit this lawsuit could have. I spent about 40 minutes at PAX talking to both developer's and they assured me they'd never heard of Twisted Metal, let alone had ever played the game. The reference points they brought up were classic arcade top-down racers, games that Scrap Metal more closely resembles.

Sure, there are striking similarities in a lot of Scrap Metal's ideas, but I'd wager Jaffe's envious and wishes his Calling All Cars! game would've received the same reception from critics.

Source: http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/so...icrosoft-jaffe

EuroGamer has also published a disagreeable 4/10 review for Scrap Metal. I understand these European sites trying to emulate EDGE's success by under-rating games, but this just isn't honest.