You can mock it all you want but it's a thing people care about and it garnered a community around a single player series that had no intention of that outcome.
Whether its common knowledge or not is irrelevant, these games are niche they cater to niche tastes. Stripping out what makes it niche is stripping out the most important parts of the franchise to some people.
What he said. Also, apologies for mocking you, sincerely, I don't have any interest in shitting on people for what they are into.
What makes me frustrated about the conversation surrounding DmC is the need of some fans (not saying you) to hold so tightly onto something that, by albeit shitty circumstances, wasn't going to be made anyway. But this new different thing is predetermined trash for X, Y, Z reason. Then it reviews well and they go "Nope! it doesn't have the things the other ones have so they are obviously wrong"
As someone who is a big fan of this series seeing other fans throw themselves against a wall because they felt, I don't know, personally wronged by everything DmC is mind-numbing to me.
I'm speaking specifically about Brad's review and the crazy flood of comments that came after. If you look closely you can see a much younger me trying to wring some sense out of that whole thing.
@humanity: Yeah, you know that thing we all know and are familiar enough with to bring it up to random people and be sure they'll know exactly what you're talking about.
It's the American Idol of video game tournaments!
Of course the competition for all casual player that totally jump cancel and max exceed in the middle of combos all thet time.
@humanity: Yeah, you know that thing we all know and are familiar enough with to bring it up to random people and be sure they'll know exactly what you're talking about.
Ugh, more people pushing the 'they didn't like it because of the hair' narrative.
Yeah, it's a disappointing and very outdated view. There are very real gameplay, narrative & character issues that game has that are the actual reasons DmC got criticized and sold poorly compared to the rest of the series.
I actually enjoyed my time with it, but after playing DMC4: Special Edition years later, I find it impossible to go back to. The definitive edition alleviates some of the problems, but the core of the game just isn't DMC. Still a solid, decent game in its own right. I won't defend the characters, however. Everyone in that game is unlikable.
Focusing on the hair is to point out the hyperbolic and over the top way (some) fans reacted to that game. We don't literally think hair is the extent of the argument.
The thing is, DmC kind of killed the hardcore community. Truestyle tournaments died with that game and it's because the underlying mechanics which defined DMC3 and 4 didn't function properly in DmC or were otherwise shallow.
It's cool if you're just playing those games as run-of-the-mill hack n' slashes but jump canceling being straight-up broken is a big deal to a portion of the audience.
I don't think you could ever convince me even half the people that raised a stink over DMC cared or even knew what a "Truestyle Tournament" was but I see your general point and don't doubt it. My thing is having the ability to say this game might not be as good in some ways and very well might have changed some things for the worse but also, on its own merits, wasn't a terrible, generic, trash fire that ruined the series. Not saying you have to love it but again, be able to separate it's very obvious baggage with what it's doing independently, on its own merits.
If you can't, in any circumstance, separate the two well, we just have a different way of consuming things.
Ugh, more people pushing the 'they didn't like it because of the hair' narrative.
Yeah, it's a disappointing and very outdated view. There are very real gameplay, narrative & character issues that game has that are the actual reasons DmC got criticized and sold poorly compared to the rest of the series.
I actually enjoyed my time with it, but after playing DMC4: Special Edition years later, I find it impossible to go back to. The definitive edition alleviates some of the problems, but the core of the game just isn't DMC. Still a solid, decent game in its own right. I won't defend the characters, however. Everyone in that game is unlikable.
Focusing on the hair is to point out the hyperbolic and over the top way (some) fans reacted to that game. We don't literally think hair is the extent of the argument.
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