Just a reminder that the campaign is today, guys. Get at it. I'll be in the corner, moping. I even have music prepared for the occasion!

@Video_Game_King: Your humor, it falls flat.

Wait, is that...hope? It is? It is! Oh joyous day! The floodgates sh... wait, I think I figured out Nintendo of America's game: notice how it's just NTSC. Not NTSC-U; just NTSC. Turns out there's another letter to go there: J. That's right: they're gonna retranslate the European localizations back into Japanese and sell them in Japan as Special Editions. Why? Because fuck you, that's why. Nintendo of America doesn't fuck around.

Updated again, this time with news that localization of Xenoblade may have already occurred.

@LordAndrew: I believe that there's another Canadian online retailer, Video Game Plus, that set up pages for all three games and is taking preorders.

Nintendo's response is a huge kick in the balls. They don't even need to localize Xenoblade Chronicles into English; that's being taken care of. They could give the games limited runs too, like some other companies do all the time. But Nintendo of America won't bother releasing a single one of them. Here's the update you've been waiting for: Fat chance! Thanks for being such great fans, have some pins.

Hm. Monado isn't listed on Amazon.ca. But I can get a Xenoblade soundtrack, or a low quality book containing the Xenoblade Wikipedia article as it existed at some point in 2010. That is so not happening.

You got my support, I'm every interested in all three of those titles and love to see them come over, especially Xenoblade, that looks like a good time XD I'll be bothering (politely) NoA as well.

@Video_Game_King said:

@Hailinel: True, but I imagine that if any of these games had Wii Motion + support, Nintendo wouldn't be so reluctant to release them. Speaking of which, why is Nintendo necessary for everything but Xenoblade? The Last Story and Pandora's Tower are third party games, so why not just get XSEED on that shit?

Both Pandora's Tower and The Last Story are Nintendo properties, just like the Ouendan games and Elite Beat Agents, which were developed by Inis. They are IPs owned by Nintendo. And Nintendo has actively prevented other companies from doing just what you suggest. They have no apparent intent of letting any other company release them.

@JJOR64: There are a lot of people that would like to see those games make it over here. It might not happen, but we can at least try to convince them.

@Video_Game_King said:

@Hailinel: Still, it was designed to use a controller that got very little use outside that one instance (Mario Party 7 is the only game I know of that used the microphone), something that Xenoblade/The Last Story/Pandora's Tower doesn't have going for it.

Nintendo's released more games of standard formats than gimmicky ones.

@Vito_Raliffe said:

I'll do my part. Contrary to what some may think, stuff like this has worked before. It's no guarantee, of course, but if there's no harm in trying, why not?

Thanks! Every little bit helps.

@JJOR64: The first Xenosaga game sold fairly well, as I recall, but Namco sabotaged the sequels with forced changes that made what audience the series did have drop away and cut the series short. They were also the same team responsible for Xenogears back on the original PlayStation and have done some other games for Nintendo as well. Nintendo also published Baten Kaitos II in the U.S. at the end of the GameCube's life when Namco declined.

@Video_Game_King said:

@Hailinel said:

@Video_Game_King: Odama doesn't use the bongos.

Really? Let me check. *does so* It didn't? Is Odama the military pinball game? If so, then X-Play fucking lied to me when they reviewed it.

Yes, it's the voice-controlled military pinball game. It was not designed to use the bongos.

@Vito_Raliffe said:

I'll do my part. Contrary to what some may think, stuff like this has worked before. It's no guarantee, of course, but if there's no harm in trying, why not?

Thanks! Every little bit helps.

@JJOR64: The first Xenosaga game sold fairly well, as I recall, but Namco sabotaged the sequels with forced changes that made what audience the series did have drop away and cut the series short. They were also the same team responsible for Xenogears back on the original PlayStation and have done some other games for Nintendo as well. Nintendo also published Baten Kaitos II in the U.S. at the end of the GameCube's life when Namco declined.

@Video_Game_King: Odama doesn't use the bongos.

I'll do my part. Contrary to what some may think, stuff like this has worked before. It's no guarantee, of course, but if there's no harm in trying, why not?

@JJOR64 said:

@Hailinel said:

@JJOR64 said:

@Hailinel said:

@JJOR64 said:

My guess is to why they aren't bringing it over is because they think the game wont sell well in America.

If they really think that, then they should come out and say it rather than make empty statements on Twitter.

It would be nice if they did. I would check them out, but I'm just one guy. They probably want to have each game sell a few million to actually make profit off of it.

But what else have they got coming this year? Kirby Wii, and Zelda. After that? Nothing. They have no further releases announced for the Wii. And the Wii U comes out when?

They have three games waiting in the wings for release that could fill in that gap quite nicely, and yet they refuse to do anything with them.

Kirby Wii and Zelda would sell more then those three games combined worldwide. My guess is that Nintendo will release Kirby and Zelda and switch all focus to Wii U. If they did release those 3 games over hear and they bombed in sales, then it would have been just a big waste of their time.

But what specifically says that they would have? Nintendo has sat on a large number of Japan and Japan/Europe releases and have prevented them from being released here. You don't think that Tecmo would love to put Fatal Fram IV on store shelves in the U.S.? Nintendo has released completely screwball, niche games like Odama in the past, and yet RPGs from the people behind Xenosaga and the creator of Final Fantasy are somehow beyond them?

Remember. They released Odama. Tell me that game was destined to be a million-seller and you'd be lying through your teeth.

@Video_Game_King: Odama doesn't use the bongos.

@JJOR64 said:

@Hailinel said:

@JJOR64 said:

@Hailinel said:

@JJOR64 said:

My guess is to why they aren't bringing it over is because they think the game wont sell well in America.

If they really think that, then they should come out and say it rather than make empty statements on Twitter.

It would be nice if they did. I would check them out, but I'm just one guy. They probably want to have each game sell a few million to actually make profit off of it.

But what else have they got coming this year? Kirby Wii, and Zelda. After that? Nothing. They have no further releases announced for the Wii. And the Wii U comes out when?

They have three games waiting in the wings for release that could fill in that gap quite nicely, and yet they refuse to do anything with them.

Kirby Wii and Zelda would sell more then those three games combined worldwide. My guess is that Nintendo will release Kirby and Zelda and switch all focus to Wii U. If they did release those 3 games over hear and they bombed in sales, then it would have been just a big waste of their time.

But what specifically says that they would have? Nintendo has sat on a large number of Japan and Japan/Europe releases and have prevented them from being released here. You don't think that Tecmo would love to put Fatal Frame IV on store shelves in the U.S.? Nintendo has released completely screwball, niche games like Odama in the past, and yet RPGs from the people behind Xenosaga and the creator of Final Fantasy are somehow beyond them?

Remember. They released Odama. Tell me that game was destined to be a million-seller and you'd be lying through your teeth.

@JJOR64 said:

@Hailinel said:

@JJOR64 said:

My guess is to why they aren't bringing it over is because they think the game wont sell well in America.

If they really think that, then they should come out and say it rather than make empty statements on Twitter.

It would be nice if they did. I would check them out, but I'm just one guy. They probably want to have each game sell a few million to actually make profit off of it.

But what else have they got coming this year? Kirby Wii, and Zelda. After that? Nothing. They have no further releases announced for the Wii. And the Wii U comes out when?

They have three games waiting in the wings for release that could fill in that gap quite nicely, and yet they refuse to do anything with them.

@JJOR64 said:

@Hailinel said:

@JJOR64 said:

My guess is to why they aren't bringing it over is because they think the game wont sell well in America.

If they really think that, then they should come out and say it rather than make empty statements on Twitter.

It would be nice if they did. I would check them out, but I'm just one guy. They probably want to have each game sell a few million to actually make profit off of it.

But what else have they got coming this year? Kirby Wii, and Zelda. After that? Nothing. They have no further releases announced for the Wii. And the Wii U comes out when?

They have three games waiting in the wings for release that could fill in that gap quite nicely, and yet they refuse to do anything with them.

@JJOR64 said:

My guess is to why they aren't bringing it over is because they think the game wont sell well in America.

If they really think that, then they should come out and say it rather than make empty statements on Twitter.

@JJOR64 said:

My guess is to why they aren't bringing it over is because they think the game wont sell well in America.

If they really think that, then they should come out and say it rather than make empty statements on Twitter.

My guess is to why they aren't bringing it over is because they think the game wont sell well in America.

Updated with Nintendo's unfortunate, if not unexpected, response. But there's no reason to give up yet. Anyone that's willing to help, please do!

Xenoblade is still holding in at #2 on Amazon. It's also gotten an apparent sales boost in Japan from all of the hullabaloo over here. Further, Nintendo has indicated to IGN that they are intending to make some sort of announcement directly addressing the subject, though there's no indication specifically when it will come or what it will consist of.

@gla55jAw:

Come on, theres no guarantee that the games will sell a profit, nintendo knows they won't from the history of the wii and all those pre orders are going to be the only people buying the game besides a small amount who are intrested. Like i've said many times, any buisness man knows how to keep their fans happy and make a profit, nintendo knows this like an art witth the wii being a casual system with no hardcore games and yet they keep the hardcore gamers eating out of the palm of their hand. Its basicly a proven fact that these games won't sell based on the history of every disc sold on the wii ever, with the exception of mario ones, and they don't need fans to like them more, so putting this out will make the people who love them, love them a tiny bit more and they lose tons on localizing and ge no return.

This way some fans are left out and forget about the games in a week while a small amount import, so this way nintendo makes more money without localizing and the fans aren't even upset. These "campaigns" have been annoying because you're going against the grain, you're driven by a desire to play these games and are blinded to the logical buisness side of this industry, so you know the games won't sell and that nintendo will lose tons of money, but hey i got my game even though nintendo had to take a stupid financial hit for my 8 hours of fun but whatever.....

I respect your opinion and will disagree to agree to disagree my opinion, so HURUMPH!!!!

@UnrealDP said:

@gla55jAw:

You read all the posts hahaha. No dude thanks for jumping in, a new opinion is always welcome.

Yeah i agree that theres little harm in trying, but internet petitions and "campaigns" are just plain annoying to people seeing the constant people making threads about the same thing and nintendo doesn't enjoy any of this for the buisness reasons i have stated, but for your argument of keeping us happy, nintendo always goes down the road of keeping people happy with new systems having your zeldas and what not. Look at the history of nintendo and you can see the pros at work when it comes to keeping your customers happy, even the wii which wasn't well recieved when it came sown to the hardcore yet still they kept the peace.

Nintendo is burned from the conduit and madworld (like i said), now they don't really need to keep their customers happy by doing things like this, its not economical history proves these games won't sell, its not needed to keep the fans happy since they're just gonna get offer it, and its just not smart to sell in the states.

Im saying fans will get xenoblade one way or the other while the other games, there is a simple explination, look at the shooter market in japan, its totally non exsistent here and the people that care would just import them. Its not that easy to just subtitle the hell out of these games. Even after all that the games still wouldn't sell like i've said a million times and the same goes for xeno blades, there would be little to no return on their investment. Lets say i produce 500 copies of xenoblade and then i sell it at the local best buy and, best case, 35% well thats the basic situation with retail wii sells.

Maybe im being a bit severe and maybe im just so tired of internet petitions when you know there just annoying and never work..

IInternet petitions always are lame and is usually some fans signing some dumb page and leaving their name and e-mail address. This Operation Rainfall seems. actually, pretty cool to me. The amount of people and coverage it's getting and the fact that people are going to actually send physical letters to NoA. Sure there's no guarantee it will work or that the games will sell for a profit, but it's worth a try to the people involved.

I understand it's annoying for you, but you can't just say it's annoying to people in general, because, at least here on Giant Bomb, I don't think I've seen any in the forums. I had to search the actual game forums for this blog. I will say I don't bother with other non Whiskey boards, because I gave up on those a while ago.

I understand what you're saying about the people who really want it will find a way to play the game and import it or download it. But still, the whole reason for this is that people want these games released so they don't have to do that. Plus you can get away with playing a shooter in another language, for an RPG, as fun as the game-play could be, without understanding what's going on, you're not going to be able to know what's going on or be able to advance until the end.

I respect your opinions and will agree to disagree haha.

As of right now, Xenoblade is still at the top of the Amazon sales chart.

@gla55jAw:

You read all the posts hahaha. No dude thanks for jumping in, a new opinion is always welcome.

Yeah i agree that theres little harm in trying, but internet petitions and "campaigns" are just plain annoying to people seeing the constant people making threads about the same thing and nintendo doesn't enjoy any of this for the buisness reasons i have stated, but for your argument of keeping us happy, nintendo always goes down the road of keeping people happy with new systems having your zeldas and what not. Look at the history of nintendo and you can see the pros at work when it comes to keeping your customers happy, even the wii which wasn't well recieved when it came sown to the hardcore yet still they kept the peace.

Nintendo is burned from the conduit and madworld (like i said), now they don't really need to keep their customers happy by doing things like this, its not economical history proves these games won't sell, its not needed to keep the fans happy since they're just gonna get offer it, and its just not smart to sell in the states.

Im saying fans will get xenoblade one way or the other while the other games, there is a simple explination, look at the shooter market in japan, its totally non exsistent here and the people that care would just import them. Its not that easy to just subtitle the hell out of these games. Even after all that the games still wouldn't sell like i've said a million times and the same goes for xeno blades, there would be little to no return on their investment. Lets say i produce 500 copies of xenoblade and then i sell it at the local best buy and, best case, 35% well thats the basic situation with retail wii sells.

Maybe im being a bit severe and maybe im just so tired of internet petitions when you know there just annoying and never work..

@UnrealDP said:

@Hailinel: Dude.....that question of what do you want me to provide an example of is not meant to be answered, its not that hard to scroll to the post before the post where i said provide a n example, but if you're going to play dumb i want you give me an example of a point where i idn't answer your question or was unconstructive to the argument not including this bogus "what example" question. Please allow us to get back on track with the argument or don't reply to this post at all if you're going to continue being a jackass by straying us off the path of the argument, unless you want this entire thread to become you playing dumb on stupid retorical questions.

I'll continue the argue for him since I just read all the posts haha. I don't get why you seem to be so bent on putting this down. If people think this could help get them something they want, let them do it. Nintendo, game sites, and even the game developers have taken notice to what everyone (including myself) are doing in an attempt to get these games over here.

I don't think your argument saying that people are just being lazy and don't want to import the game is very reasonable. For one, Xenoblade already has an English translation that is being released in Europe, so why not bring it out in the US? As for the other games, well, they're in Japanese! I doubt most people can understand Japanese and would want to go through the hassle of spending double to import, get an import Wii or mod their own. Plus, the whole point of this little movement is that people want the real official release of these games, which are Nintendo properties.

I understand what you're saying about the business end of all this, but you also have to keep in mind that, businesses also have to keep their customers happy too. as well as make money.

@Hailinel: Dude.....that question of what do you want me to provide an example of is not meant to be answered, its not that hard to scroll to the post before the post where i said provide a n example, but if you're going to play dumb i want you give me an example of a point where i idn't answer your question or was unconstructive to the argument not including this bogus "what example" question. Please allow us to get back on track with the argument or don't reply to this post at all if you're going to continue being a jackass by straying us off the path of the argument, unless you want this entire thread to become you playing dumb on stupid retorical questions.

@UnrealDP said:

@Hailinel:

Oh my god, you"re proving my point so well! If you look back on our conversation i say the same thing over and over because you ignore it until that last post where you bring up a point and i counter it and now you're being whiny about me not making sense when before your argument was that i wan't being contructive. Ether try to make a constructive entry to this conversation or don't reply to this post and stop making excuses....

You didn't answer my question. What do you want an example of? Provide me with an answer to that question or I will have nothing more to say to you.

@Hailinel:

Oh my god, you"re proving my point so well! If you look back on our conversation i say the same thing over and over because you ignore it until that last post where you bring up a point and i counter it and now you're being whiny about me not making sense when before your argument was that i wan't being contructive. Ether try to make a constructive entry to this conversation or don't reply to this post and stop making excuses....

@UnrealDP said:

@Hailinel:

Dude, if you want me to believe you're not just angry and saying stuff or out of any way you can counter what im saying, then give an example instead of an unconstructive statement.

An example of what? You fail to make any sense other than repeating the same mantra of "they're a business, so don't bother" over and over again.

@Bocam said:

@Hailinel: Had to buy a Japanese Wii, I found out two days later that you could bypass the region lock by softmodding

Ah. Yeah, I can see how that might sour your mood.

@Hailinel: Had to buy a Japanese Wii, I found out two days later that you could bypass the region lock by softmodding

@Hailinel:

Dude, if you want me to believe you're not just angry and saying stuff or out of any way you can counter what im saying, then give an example instead of an unconstructive statement.

@Bocam said:

@Hailinel: I think I hated it due to fact I had to spend $400 to play it. Though The Last Story was worth it so I'll support this.

Ouch. Yeah, there are very few games worth $400. Why did it cost so much to play?

@UnrealDP said:

@Hailinel:

Your acting like nintendo is one of those gulable kids from your average movie, "Hey nintendo go lick the flag pole! Oh he's totally stuck, oh my god this is so funny and he fell for it again!" People pleaded for a hardcore wii game and then madworld was made and no one bought it, people pleaded for an fps on the wii claiming they would buy it and then no one did, even the sequel lost money after everyone said they would buy a sequel. At this point any one wanting to put this out in the states isn't doing it for profit and making nintendo feel bad for being a smart buisness. Thats all you "campaign" (heh) guys are doing is begging nintendo to put these games out when this exact same thing has happend to them multiple times. "Well we have these preorders!" Still not enough to make a profit and thats probably going to be the only group of people purchasing this game which isn't speculation if you look at every non mario game EVER!!!

Im being realestic here and you guys are just making it hard for nintendo. Tons of people preorderd mad world and that game was good, but it sold next to nothing, once again same for the conduit. You're taunting nintendo not influencing them as consumers just like the other times i mentioned. Nintendo is a smart buisness and its a stupid move to spend any money on a disc game that lacks mario. By trying you're simply turning the knive and being annoying and im normally a keep trying kind of guy, but what you're trying for is a petty thing that you know goes against any good buisness mans brain. You're asking nintendo " Hey i know that everytime you do this you get burned, but couls you stick your hand in the fire here, so i don't have to import?"

If that's truly what you believe, then there's really no point in arguing with you any further. Why do you bother posting in this thread if you have nothing constructive to contribute and prefer to insult those that get involved?

@Hailinel: I think I hated it due to fact I had to spend $400 to play it. Though The Last Story was worth it so I'll support this.

@Hailinel:

Your acting like nintendo is one of those gulable kids from your average movie, "Hey nintendo go lick the flag pole! Oh he's totally stuck, oh my god this is so funny and he fell for it again!" People pleaded for a hardcore wii game and then madworld was made and no one bought it, people pleaded for an fps on the wii claiming they would buy it and then no one did, even the sequel lost money after everyone said they would buy a sequel. At this point any one wanting to put this out in the states isn't doing it for profit and making nintendo feel bad for being a smart buisness. Thats all you "campaign" (heh) guys are doing is begging nintendo to put these games out when this exact same thing has happend to them multiple times. "Well we have these preorders!" Still not enough to make a profit and thats probably going to be the only group of people purchasing this game which isn't speculation if you look at every non mario game EVER!!!

Im being realestic here and you guys are just making it hard for nintendo. Tons of people preorderd mad world and that game was good, but it sold next to nothing, once again same for the conduit. You're taunting nintendo not influencing them as consumers just like the other times i mentioned. Nintendo is a smart buisness and its a stupid move to spend any money on a disc game that lacks mario. By trying you're simply turning the knive and being annoying and im normally a keep trying kind of guy, but what you're trying for is a petty thing that you know goes against any good buisness mans brain. You're asking nintendo " Hey i know that everytime you do this you get burned, but couls you stick your hand in the fire here, so i don't have to import?"

I'd like to play two of those games. TO AMAZON!

@Bocam said:

Think of it like this... Nintendo wants to get the hardcore crowd back. Releasing these games would be a huge step forward in that regard. That being said, Xenoblade is a pretty bad game.

Even if that's true, I'd still like the opportunity to go to a shop and buy it myself. I want to be granted the choice and be able to make my own judgment regarding the game's quality.

Think of it like this... Nintendo wants to get the hardcore crowd back. Releasing these games would be a huge step forward in that regard. That being said, Xenoblade is a pretty bad game.

@UnrealDP: I am perfectly aware that they are a business, as are the organizers of Operation Rainfall and many others getting involved. But just because they are a business does not mean that they see themselves as being above direct influence of consumers. In all of this, you are missing my main point:

Everyone participating is doing so of their own volition out of a desire to see these and other Nintendo Japan titles released in North America. There is absolutely nothing wrong in what we are doing, and there is no harm in doing it. I and others are also cognizant of the fact that despite what strides the campaign may make, success is not a guaranteed outcome. However, the possibility of failure, whether it be due to Nintendo not seeing the releases as financially justifiable, or for any other reason, is not enough to give up trying.

What you are doing is using a business logic that you have yet to prove you fully understand in order to argue against an act being performed out of a desire; a desire that, so far, has landed one of the games at the top of Amazon's sales charts for two days running now. All Nintendo would need to do is publish the game in North America, and they could have that money that people have already said that they are willing to pay. People are saying, "See this, Nintendo? We are prepared to buy this game from you if you would simply consent to release it for us." And that's potential sales through only one channel.

Once again, we are fully aware that this doesn't guarantee anything. But even if it doesn't succeed, I feel better for at least trying instead of doing what you're doing; belittling the act out of seemingly no productive desire. You gain nothing from arguing against this as you are doing. Me? I maintain the possibility that a U.S. release can still happen.

@TehFlan:

I would like to play this, but not so much that i would import, but hey games are a buisness and with the state of the wii's disc sales, i really don't think that this is anything more then an annoyence to nintendo whos trying to be tough knowing that, just because we sound like we want it doesn't mean we really do. Look at madworld, everyone said they wanted a hardcore wii game and madworld did real bad. Look at the conduit, everyone said they wanted a good fps and that sold real bad too.

Yeah i know its a real bummer man and im so sorry if im coming off as a dick right now, really i am its just that you guys are forgetting this whole buisness thing.

@Video_Game_King:

Christ, i was hoping no one would notice hahaha!

@Hailinel: Im trying to debate, but your skipping over my big point VIDEO GAMES ARE A BUISNESS!!1!!111!

So what if the game is made by nintendo, it realy doesn't matter like i said. Nintendos first party games have even done bad like mario party for instance and the nintendo barnd means nothing with these games since they aren't recognizable as nintendo games, "Oh yeah xenoblade my favorite nintendo game." Nintendos name means nothing, but a little stamp on the box that helps sell to a very small audience that probably are too busy thinking about nintendos next console.

The only points you're making now are....

1. Saying "campaign" in quotations is condecending and....well yeah you got me there, im kind of a dick.....

2.These are nintendos games so maybe they will put marketing behind them to which i say what i have already said in that wii games don't sell and this has been proven with everyone getting burned in the long run except people who make cheap, mini game collections, which don't need a lot of return to make a profit. Mario galaxy sold at first mainly because of the mario name, while no one recognizes xenoblade as a thing and even if it would be the biggest hit in the world released in the U.S, it would be the only wii game, without mario, to make a sizable profit, so if you know rudementery buisness you know the wii market is dead. Sorry for block of text....

3. That im arguing for the sake of arguing, you never even gave an example of me doing this and you"re ignoring all my major points, so i think that answers that.