I am new to the forum, actually i was looking for a forum that discussed the DW series. I am a fan of it and also of its historic period. Even bought the historical novel, amazing. I also beat the game in all four kingdoms, and I have to say its better that the previous Dw, way better. T
Storyline wise they made it more acurate and in line with history(Battle of Xiapi, followed by the rebelion of Xu province, Lui beis story), adding levels thatt were found in Extreme Legends series, making it part of the mainstream of the story mode. (e.g. Dian Wei's death trying to save Cao Cao from Zhang Xiu). I like the fact that DW story line and follow through made characters grow in you as you keep playing no matter who you personally support. However, they took out some of the fun battles from the storymode from some factions and I guess put them on conquest mode(e.g. The Nanman Rebellion, Jie Ting) Overall it was more of switching levels and then adding the Jin faction with all those new battles.
Jin was a cool addition, being the faction that United the three kingdoms in the end. However, it needed more of the reality that the other factions recieved, for example, Sima Zhao was not a warrior, he was a strategist. Felt like Zhuge Liang fighitng personally a bunch of battles. Xiahou Ba was a waste of resource, he exist in history but I dont think he deserved a unique model. You dont use him in story mode at all(because historically he switches side to Shu) , he changes sides almost at the begining so you dont even fight along side him, he just doesnt do anything rather than look cool in his armor. Also, Jin characters all die or betray one another, I am exagerating a little but it seemed they needed more LOYAL UNIQUE-looking characters. Zhong Hui's persona doesnt connect to history(since he betrays Wei at Shu's last moments because he was convinced by Jiang Wei to declare Shu's independence) Deng Ai dies because of Zhong Hui' slander ( he was assasinated).This doesnt happen in the game however, these 2 , Sima Zhao and Wang Yuan Ji are all that are left at the end game.
The rest of Jin characters:
Sima Yi, dies after 3 battles,
Guo Hai also dies half the story
Xiahou Ba betrays Jin and joins Shu ,early begining.
Zhuge Dan, you play as him once then, you have to kill him becaus he rebels on the Sima clan.
Sima Shi dies after using him like 3 times.
Wang Yuan Ji, wasnt a strong character in all sense of the word.
My point is, as cool and exciting this was to add another faction it seemed like a waste of resource to make this unique character of people you barely use or see. From all of them I think, Yuan ji, Ba and Dan where a waste of time to create them ,a generic model for them would have been enough or at least give them more battles and usefulness.
These same symptoms were found in Wei, Shu and Wu.
Wei:
Cai Wengi ( I dont know what to say about her, Cao Caos favorite but so what?)
Zheng Ji ( prior DWs she had a major role, now , just a pretty girl Cao Pi found.
Xu Huang( this guys is in many historical battles)
Shu:
Bao Sanniang ( I was excited about this one, intrigued,later found out she was just Guan Suo's girlfriend...and.? make her Useful)
Ma chao ( YOu cant use THE SPLENDID in STORY MODE!?)
Ma dai( Paint brush guy, pretty cool though)
Lui Shan (Post Shu, Never used him, however he didnt fight historically...at all)
Yue Ying( the invention genius, never used in story mode, she was present in many battles, but yeah there it is)
Wu:
Lian Shi( You never use her in story mode, she uses a cross bow and really has'nt a significant role)
Ding Feng ( cool character concept, but not useable and doesnt have a rol in Wu other than to be an active pain when you are doing Jin's Story mode)
The 2 Qiao's( yeah same thing there)
With the rest of the factions, the 3 original ones, They took out mayor players out of play and well, the new faces didnt get much attention either. Yeah you can play them in conquest but whats the fun in that? The npcs dont recognize you as the character but rather a mighty warrior.
The weapon system is nice, it adds to combo by switching weapons and gives you the opportunity of wielding any weapon you want. PLus, its gives you a specialty bonus for the weapons that are originally wielded by the character.
The look of the game
It reminded me of Ken's fist, mind you I think that game was garbage. Repetitive as it can get.
The whole rotating camera thing that happens in Ken's Fist before going to battle, the lighting and the "buffiness" of characters ( I mean Lui Bei, come on!) gave away that Ken's Fist was a test or maybe Koei's new style. I liked it but yeah it reminded me of that game. Looks improved, sharper and detailed models and textures. Great lighting, some minor flickering in some small areas.
Overall the game is...a movie. They made it well in the sense of the flow of each factions Story....except Jin. All three factions were made very personal in their own ideals, Jin just was just like mocking the rest because they historically were the ones that united China, but in the game its seems that way, they dont have mature characters, Sima Yi , Guo Hai and Deng Ai were the only ones. Historically , I bet that the other Jin Characters had a more mature 'persona'.
Thats just me though, I have more feed back but... I think is enough for now. The game has improved but it should have improved for the last time. Some thing that says ITS DONE, the story is nostalgic, specially at Jin's end when they close the act , but... there it is
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