Jay444111

@Atomasist said:

Crysis 2.

I may not have ever played the first game... but damn is the second one awesome on the 360... IMO. Seriously, that game got down what a Alien Invasion should fucking be like... no movie has ever gotten a alien invasion story down right but that game IMO did. Finally felt like war of the worlds of video games!

@CaLe said:

@Jay444111 said:

Realistically. He didn't even make even 1% as much as Braid and Limbo have.

You sound as dumb as the shit you just pulled out of your ass after saying that.

Actually, it costs 40K in order to release AN UPDATE on Xbox Live... I am not joking. Obsidian had to pay that much to get Fallout new vegas patches on there... who knows how much a damn Arcade game costed and how many fees they have to pay constantly! There is no way he got any good amount of money from this venture. No way in the deepest firey pits of hell he got any good money off of it.

@project343 said:

He's bold and vocal, but a solid designer if FEZ is any indication. People need to give it a rest and give some praise to vocal game designers--there aren't nearly enough of them.

I give praise to those who deserve it. A guy who insults other hard working developers and then copies them completely doesn't deserve any at all IMO.

@Zacagawea said:

the XBLA version of fez sold 100,000 units in a month and a half at 10 bucks a pop that's million bucks.

But it is on Xbox live though, so he had to pay MS in order to get it on there like all other arcade guys. Who knows how that much really is... hell it is possible he only got 20% of what it made for all we know! Realistically. He didn't even make even 1% as much as Braid and Limbo have. Also the fact that people stayed away from him because he is an asshole and the fact that is the very REASON many people didn't buy the game is proof of that. Hell, all my Xbox buddies never bought it. I asked them why and that was the number one reason, the guy was an asshole...

Just saying...

@FateOfNever said:

@Jay444111 said:

@JoeyRavn said:

After watching Indie Game: The Movie, I can totally understand how and why Phil Fish (or "Fil Phish", as I usually get his name mixed up) would react that way. It's obvious that he's a very talented designer, but not really fit for PR. If he had had someone whose sole responsability was dealing with the public instead of him, he wouldn't have reacted the way he did. Designing and producing a game on your own is pretty tough (just look at the Team Meat guys), but if on top of that you have to put a nice face and deal with people, things can get nasty. And, let's admit it, the Internet can and will eventually get to you.

I judge people by people, not for who they hire to make people look like good people... If you catch my drift. IMO, no company should hire a PR firm unless they royally fucked up and need to apologize for something massive. Otherwise treat your customers like human beings and be nice... that is literally all that needs to be said about PR stuff which can easily be avoided.

Except that everyone is different. It may be nice to believe that everyone is perfect and can maintain composure 100% of the time no matter what's going on in their life. If you want to tell me though that if someone had you on camera/on record saying some of the worst things you've ever said in your life, regardless of context, that you'd turn out to be a better person that Phil Fish, I'd call bullshit.

I'm not saying that the guy was right in the things he's said. He could have stood to choose his words better when talking about Japanese games, I feel, or to just not talk about it at all at a place such as he was at, but to think that no one needs PR when they're forced to deal with the public at all times, and dealing with the public is something that they may or may not have any experience with or be any good at? No way. PR exists for a reason and it's because not everyone is eloquent with their words. Not everyone keeps perfect composure 100% of the time when dealing with people. Not everyone is great with words *period*. You basically want everyone to be perfect and the same, and that's just not how people are.

No I said that if they had even a bit of common sense they would never get into any of these messes to begin with. Fuck, all it takes not to be such a asshole is willpower and some damn kindness with quite a bit of common sense.

Sure people aren't great with words. Look at Hideo Kojima! That guy is nervous and all that whenever he tries to announce a game. But we sit through it and you wanna know why? Because the guy cares about what he does and is willing to speak English, a language that some Americans don't even know how to correctly use in order to bring us news about a new video game! Doesn't matter if you are nervous or embarress yourself because no matter what, people can see the heart and soul of what you are doing. That is far more important than any PR firm could ever do.

So yeah, if you aren't good with words. Just be careful with those words. I mean. Fuck man. Just stop being a dickhead is all we ask. Sure no one is 100% composed on anything. Like with me, when I get tricked I get pissed off. But I don't let it out because I know I will regret it later on. Just let it be known you are frustrated with something instead of being completely assholish about it like Phil Fish here.

@TheHumanDove said:

Just internet people overreacting. And japanese games do suck lately. Almost everyone writes an article about it even. Just nerd rage in general, and then if he responds unprofessionally to one nerd, it's an attack on all nerds. Keep in mind, he's not a fucking corporation. He's not a faceless company. He's a person. He's not a suit that writes PR shit to shove down our throats. I, for one, find that refreshing.

Play them.... seriously. Play some current Japanese games on DS, Wii, and PSP/Vita... they are awesome and just as good as back then... stop ignoring the fucking handhelds and the smaller systems for once people!

@udabenshen said:

I like Phil Fish as an artist. Not sure I would want to hang out with him, but he's defiantly a force of nature.

I doubt it. Public gaming forums and outlets are very focused on certain developers and when they do horrible shit we do not like we voice it. If they fight back telling us to suck their dick then they have no hope to ever stay in the industry. Now if he apologized and said he didn't mean it while also saying he would make another game that looks pretty good then people would've forgiven him over time. This however fucked his entire career and if he ever hopes to get into a company or create a business he will need to change his name and idientity in order to do so... no one likes assholes and that is a fact.

@OneManX said:

Just seeing is antics a few months ago on Twitter... dude just came off as the biggest Dbag around. I just unfollowed him.

Like I'm happy you released this game and it is a success for you, but fuck you.

Actually, compared to many other popular indie games, his game sold very... well... shitty. 100K sales on xbox in a month is SEVERELY not good in terms of sales... considering Banjo Kazooie games and games like braid get a good million... his game sold horribly.

Also the fact that he was such an asshole basically garentees that no one will listen to him and he will never get a legitimate job in this industry. No one wants to hire an asshole with a horrible streak of being said asshole... no one wants that on a company image so the guy also fucked himself when it came to being an asshole... which is a good thing for all of us. One less asshole=good thing.

@JoeyRavn said:

After watching Indie Game: The Movie, I can totally understand how and why Phil Fish (or "Fil Phish", as I usually get his name mixed up) would react that way. It's obvious that he's a very talented designer, but not really fit for PR. If he had had someone whose sole responsability was dealing with the public instead of him, he wouldn't have reacted the way he did. Designing and producing a game on your own is pretty tough (just look at the Team Meat guys), but if on top of that you have to put a nice face and deal with people, things can get nasty. And, let's admit it, the Internet can and will eventually get to you.

I judge people by people, not for who they hire to make people look like good people... If you catch my drift. IMO, no company should hire a PR firm unless they royally fucked up and need to apologize for something massive. Otherwise treat your customers like human beings and be nice... that is literally all that needs to be said about PR stuff which can easily be avoided.

@mandude said:

This is making me not want to buy Fez (if it were to ever become available on PC).

Not like he is making any decent money on Xbox live... BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

Someone should just make an SMT Board game... sure it might exist in Japan. But I would totally buy one if it was in english... even if it was a hardcore board game... which I have no experience in.

Also... I was interested in the idea of a MMO in this game... but fuck man... why can't companies get the fact that turn based wait till you get hit shit just SHOULDN'T fly anymore? Make it like kingdom hearts or something... I would extremely like a MMO which is completely actiony without any bullshit wait a moment before attacking again!!!

@xobballox said:

If it's a really long game and I'm more than 6 or 8 hours in I'll either pick up from where I started or never play it again. I don't know the last time I restarted a long ass game (ok, Red Dead, I was in Mexico and my Xbox 360 broke, bought a PS3 and then beat it on PS3 from the beginning. That was an exception because of the circumstances and how goddamn good that game is.)

Red dead is awesome and is highly replayable... fully agreed on this one for so many good reasons. The zombie DLC was pretty good too.

Oh just something a bit more personal and off topic slightly, and upon beating devil survivor I feel like punching something... I got Yuzu's ending and I feel like someone just kicked me in the balls for surviving by the skin of my teeth on that final fucking fight... ARG!!! I will replay it though... just so I can MURDER EVERYTHING WITH HIGH LEVEL DEMONS!!! BWHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

However this game is awesome and I will replay it... later... Kinda in a JRPG burn out right now.

If Windows live ID system is off the system, yes, if not. Then it can rightfully fuck off with how I feel about that system... worse than any computer DRM out there COMBINED!!! Not joking at all. Trust me, I have some very VERY personal problems with that broken ass system of E-mail shit.

Restart for me... I mainly play around for a bit to figure something out then I go ahead and... restart... even on RPG's... fuck that pisses me off actually since I am planning on restarting the persona games once I get to them... yeah I know... but hey I just beat Devil Survivor so... yeah... I am beating some games!