Tumbler

Jets are fantastic with rocket pods. I wish they added bombs, but in BF2 they were kind of silly at times.

I found a server called "learn to fly" that only plays Caspian border. It's great! I'm guessing there are others out there as well. Sort by servers with the fewest people and you should find some learning servers. This is only on the pc though, the console version just runs the same server setup for every server, I've never looked into starting a console server that I can set the choices manually. Is that even possible?

@Zidd said:

They really should have put the anti-ground jets into conquest mode.

I wish they'd patch the jets so they had bombs because without a good weapon vs ground there is almost no reason to take them out when you can get the attack helo. That thing is a beast once you get AA missiles. I've shot down a lot more air targets with the helo's than I have with Jets. Plus you can land and repair a helo pretty easily.

I really hope they patch bombs into the jet arsenal, they probably won't ever be good at taking out air targets unless they give them radar guided missiles that ignore flares.

@Zakihashi said:

@Tumbler: Battlelog looks like just any standard server browser, where it shows ping, if it's PB protected, Password, or Ranked, or whatever else you wanna know. And the battlelog system in it self is REALLY good. It got so much statistics in there that I can look for days. And it's WAY easier to look at then any ingame system I've seen to date. It's like you check your steam achievement, you open the steam browser, instead of the ingame tool for it. And since it's a PC game, the FOV will naturally be higher then consoles. So nothing wired there. And you can't call it a mess, every thing you complained about is, it being a pc game, and not a console game. The FOV, console complaint, on pc, console controller, on pc, console complaint, and battlelog, normal freaking server browser, random complaint, <-- All of this BS you say is a mess, actually make it a PC game, on a PC, which do not in any way make this a mess. What is a mess, is the console server browser, those filters sure are very ..... yeah... Battlelog should just been implemented on consoles via PS3's browser, and Xbox's whatever they'd have to come up with.

I tryed playing the pc version a bit more today and my experience with battlelog still supports my view of it being a big pain in the ass. I open my browser when I'm ready to play, go to battlelog. Move mouse over multiplayer, select server browser. Server browser has no filter info, cleared for some reason, update my choices (there is almost no difference between these choices and the console choices, I'm confused why you think otherwise). I find a server I want, click it, then go to that box on the right, click join server. Then I get an error. Says the battlelog web plugin needs to be updated. I go through the steps to install it, eventually I get back to the server list, select a game and click join server. Another error! Says I need to select a soldier that is on the PC. I have 3 soldier, Xbox, PS3, PC. Which one do you think I want to use when I'm starting a game on the PC?! So I select the pc soldier, join the server. Then it starts origin, that goes pretty fast, and then battlefield is loading in the background. (we're well past the time it takes to get into a console game btw) Eventually the game comes up with a loading screen and then I'm finally in the game.

Most of that was totally unnecessary. I was able to find a server I wanted to join and play but rather than simply starting the game and then going to the address this "system" forces you to jump through hoops. Starting origin isn't needed, updating battlelog isn't needed, the only thing it needs to do is start the game and go to that ip address. You're blind if you don't see these as stupid hoops that a pc gamer has to jump through while console gamers do not. Console gamers still get all the features of the website without forcing the game to run web extensions and 3rd party software in order to play the game.

K@BestUsernameEver

"Do you think with the 3DS' new price Nintendo will see a successful Q4?"

No. I think if someone wants portable gaming the ipad is the best choice. You'll pay less in the long run considering the cost games and you have the internet to add to your c

The pc version is kind of a mess. I rented the ps3 version from redbox, bought the online pass and played for one evening. PS3 froze 3 times in approx 2 hours. I took that back the next morning. I had some credits on Amazon so I spent it on the download version of the game on the PC after reading that support on a controller was excellent. Game runs ok on lowest settings but the FoV was an issue. The lowest setting you can go in game is 60 and that still felt like i was too far away from everything to enjoy. I've figured out how to set it lower so now it's 45 which is about what you get on the consoles, maybe 50. But there are issues with the controller support. In game it's very decent, but the sprint button is a hold function. That has become such a huge problem I don't even play it anymore. Sprint needs to be a toggle like it is on the console versions. There is also very little menu control so you can't use the bumpers to move around the deploy menu, you can't use the start key to get to options, you can't use the d-pad to move between classes. The only thing you can do is use the left stick to move between the deployment options and use the a button to deploy. It works but you constantly have to jump back to the keyboard.

I went out and bought the 360 version and everything on tha works great. No complaints. It froze one time just after install but after restarting the game it's been great.

The most surprising thing is that the server browser on the console versions are more useful than that battlelog thing. The way that displays server info is comically bad.

As a consumer I don't really care if people are playing the game once it's been shipped to stores. I know they want everyone to wait until the launch day but I feel like the game is "released" the moment it's out of the warehouse and on the way to stores. After that it seems like a silly game stores play to try and keep the game out of the public hands until "launch" day. I don't even consider this a leak. Some people get it before me. Oh well.

@Ronald said:

I had no issues with input lag playing through the whole game.

Are you saying that you did not experience input lag as above or that you adjusted to the lag and were able to complete the game?

This problem limited to certain PS3's? IE older 60GB launch models? Newer 40gb models? Redesign models? Is this lag on every PS3? That is terrible input lag.

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Cha-Ching, done.