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Endurance Run

Endurance Run: Deadly Premonition: Part BR-37

So, Emily, if I understand this right, you're telling the Endurance Run is ISN'T over?

Vinny and Jeff sit down and take a crack at the latest game in the Shin Megami Tensei series. Will they make it through the entire game?

May. 25 2010

Cast: Ryan, Brad

Posted by: Drew

In This Episode:

Deadly Premonition

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wow there back here

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@mythrol said:

" Giantbomb, please. For the love of all things holy. . . take the controller away from Brad for the next game ER. Just. No. Please. No.   We're almost 18 hours into this game and he still acts surprised when zombies warp toward him. Still tries to run around zombies that he clearly can't get around, and then gets upset when they're able to attack him. *gasp* Shock!   Brad, you're great at interviews. For short QL's where we don't know everything going on, poor game play is ok or at least tollerable. But for an ER - Sorry - Please someone make an executive decision to take the controller from Brad. We're in end game mode and it's almost as if Brad as no concept of what the game mechanics are.  I've been a staunch supporter of the BR-ER. Only watched a few of JV; But this episode was REALLY hard to watch. And I'm not even getting into the inventory management aspect. "

 You're taking this shit WAY too seriously, and the constant Brad hate every day is getting extremely old and annoying.
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All the haters here just remind me of people who yell at the TV when they're watching Football.  Except it makes even less sense in this case, somehow.  Sheesh, get a grip!

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The other guys almost finished the game and you guys are still on episode 4... slacking...

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I think Brad should try to put the shovel in the toolbox a few more times. It will probably work if he keeps trying.

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"expectations are premeditated resentments" - deep, Ryan. where'd you copypasted that from?    
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@Besetment said:
" I think Brad should try to put the shovel in the toolbox a few more times. It will probably work if he keeps trying. "
I hope that you aren't serious about that, being as he only tried to pick the shovel up one time.
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Brad I love you, I really do, but YOU SUCK at this. It's a pain to watch, I love you, but damn.....

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I'm done. Since Vinny and Jeff are pretty much over with their run, I'll stick to that and wait until Brad and Ryan get to the few interesting spots left in the game before watching anymore.
 
Here's my badge and my gun.

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Brad is awesome, no need to hate on him.
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@metalhead87 said:
" @Besetment said:
" I think Brad should try to put the shovel in the toolbox a few more times. It will probably work if he keeps trying. "
I hope that you aren't serious about that, being as he only tried to pick the shovel up one time. "
Are you talking about the shovel in the storage room? I'm talking about the beginning of the episode where they're managing inventory
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CHEATING!!! CHEATING!!!!
 
You can't talk to the Persona Crew, that's cheating! Ah man, I thought I could escape this fetid world of corruption!
 
Anyway, if there's anyone who shouldn't ask anyone else if they are out of their minds, it's Morgan. The part where the closet zombies hang their heads in shame and just take it; that was weird. 
 
"Expectations are premeditated resentments" Is that some freaky post-Nietzschean wet towel slap?

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@metalhead87 said:
" @Besetment said:
" I think Brad should try to put the shovel in the toolbox a few more times. It will probably work if he keeps trying. "
I hope that you aren't serious about that, being as he only tried to pick the shovel up one time. "
I think he tried it a few times, and then decided that the toolbox was full because it wouldn't fit any more shovels.
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@Besetment said:
" @metalhead87 said:
" @Besetment said:
" I think Brad should try to put the shovel in the toolbox a few more times. It will probably work if he keeps trying. "
I hope that you aren't serious about that, being as he only tried to pick the shovel up one time. "
Are you talking about the shovel in the storage room? I'm talking about the beginning of the episode where they're managing inventory "
Ok yeah...I was thinking of the storage room.  Had just seen that part when I read your comment, and I think I skipped past the managing inventory stuff, since that is what I usually do.  Sorry about that.
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People bitch about too many little things...

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@metalhead87 said:
" @mythrol said:

" Giantbomb, please. For the love of all things holy. . . take the controller away from Brad for the next game ER. Just. No. Please. No.   We're almost 18 hours into this game and he still acts surprised when zombies warp toward him. Still tries to run around zombies that he clearly can't get around, and then gets upset when they're able to attack him. *gasp* Shock!   Brad, you're great at interviews. For short QL's where we don't know everything going on, poor game play is ok or at least tollerable. But for an ER - Sorry - Please someone make an executive decision to take the controller from Brad. We're in end game mode and it's almost as if Brad as no concept of what the game mechanics are.  I've been a staunch supporter of the BR-ER. Only watched a few of JV; But this episode was REALLY hard to watch. And I'm not even getting into the inventory management aspect. "

 You're taking this shit WAY too seriously, and the constant Brad hate every day is getting extremely old and annoying. "
I'm surprised you could even get that sentence out with Brad's cock in your mouth.
 
I'm not hating on Brad just to hate. And I certainly haven't done it every day. Like I said, I think Brad is a great interviewer, and for QL's I think he's fine. It's part of the enjoyment watching Brad die in a QL. 
 
But when you're talking about 18+ hours of game play and still not understanding the core mechanics or how enemies work - it's just embarrassing and frustrating to watch.  
 
Annoying is all the apologist who think it's fine that Brad trashes the game yet 90% of the problems he complains about are caused by himself. Heck, I really like Brad. I think he's great for Giantbomb. Just not controlling an ER. 
 
Now be sure and lick his balls while you're sucking up to him. 
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What we have here is an A-type gamer (Brad), making assumptions about how the game SHOULD be, instead of accepting the game for what it ACTUALLY is. Therefore, we have a gamer who will do seemingly foolish things because of personal expectations of what he believes should happen in every genre game. When the result is not as expected, said gamer blames the game instead of critically thinking about what went wrong and making corrections to gameplay.
 
The game Brad is playing in his head is titled "Deadly Assumption", which is causing a lot of viewer frustration.
 
Is venting a little frustration about Brad's gameply tactics on a comment thread about said video foolish or crazy? Well, I think writing comments is a bit of a fool's errand, in general, but that's what this comment box is here for, so I don't see a problem with it. I have more of a problem with people degrading others for airing a bit of light-hearted angst. They do it out of love for the Endurance Runs, not out of any deep-seated hate or contempt for Brad, or the other staff. (Except for you jerks ripping on Mike! Give the guy some love!)
 
The most annoying comments are from folks sticking up for people who don't need or want backup. I know writing the "You are haters/whiners! Shut up!" comment in every posting may feed your delusion that the Giant Bomb staff will become your best friend and invite you over for fondue... but it just isn't going to happen. They have friends not on the internet who consider them adults capable of handling internet jibes  to melt six different kinds of cheeses with. That's just the way it is.
 
 I'm cutting Ryan some slack, here, as he's going along for the ride... even though he does occasionally back up Brad's boneheaded assertions. Sometimes you just have to let the captain pilot his ship into an iceberg a few times before offering alternatives. 
 
Phew! Another rant over!

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i just ended up skipping through some of the episode...

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@mythrol said:

" @metalhead87 said:

" @mythrol said:

" Giantbomb, please. For the love of all things holy. . . take the controller away from Brad for the next game ER. Just. No. Please. No.   We're almost 18 hours into this game and he still acts surprised when zombies warp toward him. Still tries to run around zombies that he clearly can't get around, and then gets upset when they're able to attack him. *gasp* Shock!   Brad, you're great at interviews. For short QL's where we don't know everything going on, poor game play is ok or at least tollerable. But for an ER - Sorry - Please someone make an executive decision to take the controller from Brad. We're in end game mode and it's almost as if Brad as no concept of what the game mechanics are.  I've been a staunch supporter of the BR-ER. Only watched a few of JV; But this episode was REALLY hard to watch. And I'm not even getting into the inventory management aspect. "

 You're taking this shit WAY too seriously, and the constant Brad hate every day is getting extremely old and annoying. "
I'm surprised you could even get that sentence out with Brad's cock in your mouth.  I'm not hating on Brad just to hate. And I certainly haven't done it every day. Like I said, I think Brad is a great interviewer, and for QL's I think he's fine. It's part of the enjoyment watching Brad die in a QL.   But when you're talking about 18+ hours of game play and still not understanding the core mechanics or how enemies work - it's just embarrassing and frustrating to watch.    Annoying is all the apologist who think it's fine that Brad trashes the game yet 90% of the problems he complains about are caused by himself. Heck, I really like Brad. I think he's great for Giantbomb. Just not controlling an ER.   Now be sure and lick his balls while you're sucking up to him.  "

Wow, dude....really.  Shut the fuck up.   I didn't mean you specifically post comments on him everyday.  I try my best to post reasonable comments to forums I use and avoid insults.  I think you are taking this shit WAY to seriously and I am tired of seeing various posts every damn day about Brad whenever I scroll to the comments...it's fucking ridiculous.   I have no idea how anything I said warranted such an aggressive and insulting reply.
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@metalhead87 said:

"Wow, dude....really.  Shut the fuck up.   I didn't mean you specifically post comments on him everyday.  I try my best to post reasonable comments to forums I use and avoid insults.  I think you are taking this shit WAY to seriously and I am tired of seeing various posts every damn day about Brad whenever I scroll to the comments...it's fucking ridiculous.   I have no idea how anything I said warranted such an aggressive and insulting reply. "


Yes. I'm the one that has taken this way to seriously, yet you're the person that uses nothing but curse words and considers that "reasonable comments". I suggest that if you don't like the comments, you don't read them.
 
I can't stand QOTW videos, so I don't watch them. It has served me well. You should do the same with comments.
 
However, there was nothing in my first post that was "way too serious" and I have presented plenty of valid arguments to back up my view. Exactly what have you done to back up your stance?
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Har, love the teasing from team VJ at the end.
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How can you not see the huge 10/10 in the weapon trade screen? HOW!? Jesus christ, is it that hard to figure out basic video game interface stuff? I'm also miffed that they didn't realize that the magnum is like a one headshot kill, Brad still doesn't realize that the chime and smoke puff represent a kill. However, not understanding mechanics isn't as dumb as not being able to figure out an inventory interface.

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@mythrol said:

" @metalhead87 said:

"Wow, dude....really.  Shut the fuck up.   I didn't mean you specifically post comments on him everyday.  I try my best to post reasonable comments to forums I use and avoid insults.  I think you are taking this shit WAY to seriously and I am tired of seeing various posts every damn day about Brad whenever I scroll to the comments...it's fucking ridiculous.   I have no idea how anything I said warranted such an aggressive and insulting reply. "

Yes. I'm the one that has taken this way to seriously, yet you're the person that uses nothing but curse words and considers that "reasonable comments". I suggest that if you don't like the comments, you don't read them.  I can't stand QOTW videos, so I don't watch them. It has served me well. You should do the same with comments.  However, there was nothing in my first post that was "way too serious" and I have presented plenty of valid arguments to back up my view. Exactly what have you done to back up your stance? "

Um....dude....find the curse words I used in my first comments("shit" doesn't count).  I do believe that  curse word came  out after someone said I had a cock in my mouth.  I get replied to in an insulting manner and  I respond in kind.    All I said was I think you are taking his playing of the game too seriously.  He has done nothing that every gamer hasn't done a thousand times, and I'm just tired of seeing comments on it everywhere(not just on the ER pages, either).   

My problem isn't with your post specifically.  It's with the fact that the arguments you presented have been presented about 14 billion times on every ER/QL page where Brad is involved...your post was just the one I saw first to quote.   BTW, I always hate to say this, but you said it first.  Just don't watch the video if his playing bothers you so bad.   I watch and enjoy the videos...I should be able to view comments without them all being about how much people hate Brad's playing.  A few are understandable, but over the past month or so it has just gotten completely ridiculous.
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lol i love that ryan was all for emilys gun and then it sucks

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@mythrol said:

Yes. I'm the one that has taken this way to seriously,

Yes, you are:
 

I'm surprised you could even get that sentence out with Brad's cock in you mouth.

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OH BRAD

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These Endurance Runs are much more enjoyable when you play cajun/zydeco music along with it. It's also better with a little booze, so parlez-nous a boire! 

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Oh shit, Ryan! My house as a child had locks with keys like that. The terrible basement had an especially sinister-looking key. 
I haven't seen keys like that since except in vidgie games
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infinite life gun LOL

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I still don't understand why people watch the BR run if they dislike Brad's playstyle. Isn't that a bit sadistic to do that to yourself? Maybe people just like the sound of their own... err, typing? Admittedly, though, when Brad put the magnum in the toolbox I was screaming "NO!" Thank God he took it back out. 

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@mutha3 said:
" In case your wondering Brad, this game doesn't have Japanese voice-acting in the original version.  Ignition was only responsible for the horrible textboxes! "
So... the lip syncing's horrible just because it's horrible? It's not because it was synced to the Japanese VO?
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You know what the main problem with those guns is? Police zombies have way more health than normal zombies, which is what Emily was fighting earlier. I cant believe no one knowledge how much ammo police zombies suck up.

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@Delta_Ass said:
" @mutha3 said:
" In case your wondering Brad, this game doesn't have Japanese voice-acting in the original version.  Ignition was only responsible for the horrible textboxes! "
So... the lip syncing's horrible just because it's horrible? It's not because it was synced to the Japanese VO? "
Well...if there is no VO in the original version, then the lip movement would just be used to indicate who was talking while you read the text and most likely wouldn't be trying to match any actual words(like a lot of older games did).  So, when they put in English VO they didn't have anything real to try and sync the voice with...really nothing they could do would make the syncing good at that point.
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Why is it that the BR ER brings out the George in people?

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brad suddenly got worse at DP

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Love Jeff and Vinny teasing Brad at the end lol

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The only thing that is annoying me about Brad's play is he gives up on guns far too soon.  "Oh I don't like this gun because it sounds shitty even though it kills guys so much quicker" or "I only used the magnum once and I don't ever want to use it again" come on Brad you know better than that.

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Jeezus Christ Brad! Learn to play!
 
I think by this point he's just doing this stuff to troll the viewers.

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@nyxywixy said:
" brad suddenly got worse at DP "
I was thinking the same thing, usually you are supposed to get better no?
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@metalhead87 said:

" @Delta_Ass said:

" @mutha3 said:
" In case your wondering Brad, this game doesn't have Japanese voice-acting in the original version.  Ignition was only responsible for the horrible textboxes! "
So... the lip syncing's horrible just because it's horrible? It's not because it was synced to the Japanese VO? "
Well...if there is no VO in the original version, then the lip movement would just be used to indicate who was talking while you read the text and most likely wouldn't be trying to match any actual words(like a lot of older games did).  So, when they put in English VO they didn't have anything real to try and sync the voice with...really nothing they could do would make the syncing good at that point. "
You misunderstand: The english VA was in the original Japanese version. It was done by Marvelous, Swery personally had a hand in it, even. If ignition had done the voices,well.....lets not get into that:P
 
The lipsynching is bad sometime because of the low budget.
 
@Boom_goes_the_dynamite said:
" The only thing that is annoying me about Brad's play is he gives up on guns far too soon.  "Oh I don't like this gun because it sounds shitty even though it kills guys so much quicker" or "I only used the magnum once and I don't ever want to use it again" come on Brad you know better than that. "

Seriously. Or when they started making up reasons(both ERs) to not use the Magnum, ''it fires too slow''what? no it doesn't!''The reload speed is slow'' its among the fastest of the guns''it doesn't do much more damage'' it does melee level damage! Oh giant bomb:P
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@frostyxc:  Yup, nice post there. Agree with you! People in general/haters would probably like more games if they threw out their systematic boneheaded assumptions.

And for todays episode ... can't they just look at the specs for the gun?.. Magnun = VERY HIGH damage VS STUPID ASS GUN = No damage. This isn't Brad's fault, its both of ems fault :P
They should have understood that Emily fought nerfed zombies.. 
 
But man, the fact that they didn't, made this ER more intresting! Maybe they're doing this on purpose? :P
 Anyways Great ER!
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Yeah I realized a long while ago that Brad sucks at playing Deadly Premonition.  That is in no way an insult towards the man, his skills as a game player, or credibility as a reviewer.  He's an upstanding gentlemen and a professional reviewer I trust.
 
After playing for this long and seeing no discernible improvement, adaptation or otherwise greater awareness about the game, I don't think I'm breaking any news that Brad just sucks at this game in particular.  He just doesn't seem to grasp it in an intuitive sense and the breaks between gameplay are just long enough that his apathy towards the game leads him (and Ryan for that matter) to forget and re-learn the game almost every week. 
 
If I ever re-watch either ER, I'm skipping all the gameplay of BR because it is WAY too frustrating when the comedy comes from the story stuff anyway.  Especially if I've already seen it once.

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@mutha3 said:
Seriously. Or when they started making up reasons(both ERs) to not use the Magnum, ''it fires too slow''what? no it doesn't!''The reload speed is slow'' its among the fastest of the guns''it doesn't do much more damage'' it does melee level damage! Oh giant bomb:P "
Well, I can understand why Brad isn't using the magnum. His aim isn't all that great. Neither team seems to understand the importance of the lock-on in a lot of scenarios, either. Once I get the infinite magnum, I'm nearly unstoppable. Run to put distance between you and the enemies, quick 180° turn, aim, hold lock-on, release lock-on, nudge left analog up, shoot twice (depending on strength of enemy and distance of other enemies), repeat.
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@Irish87 said:
" I still don't understand why people watch the BR run if they dislike Brad's playstyle."
To borrow a quote from the movie Go (when Todd Gaines is discussing The Family Circus), "I hate it, yet I'm uncontrollably drawn to it." XD
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@mutha3: Yeah at least Vinny and Jeff used the automatic rifle more often and finally used the magnum closer to the end of the last episode.
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@mutha3 said:
" @metalhead87 said:

" @Delta_Ass said:

" @mutha3 said:
" In case your wondering Brad, this game doesn't have Japanese voice-acting in the original version.  Ignition was only responsible for the horrible textboxes! "
So... the lip syncing's horrible just because it's horrible? It's not because it was synced to the Japanese VO? "
Well...if there is no VO in the original version, then the lip movement would just be used to indicate who was talking while you read the text and most likely wouldn't be trying to match any actual words(like a lot of older games did).  So, when they put in English VO they didn't have anything real to try and sync the voice with...really nothing they could do would make the syncing good at that point. "
You misunderstand: The english VA was in the original Japanese version. It was done by Marvelous, Swery personally had a hand in it, even. If ignition had done the voices,well.....lets not get into that:P
Ah...ok.  That seems like an odd design choice, but this is Deadly Premonition we are talking about, so I guess it's not all that odd in context.
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@mutha3 said:
The lipsynching is bad sometime because of the low budget.
Uh... yeah, it's not "sometime." It's like, anytime anyone opens their mouth to speak. It's all the time. Everywhere.
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@kevinski:@Boom_goes_the_dynamite: 
 
If we're gonna discuss effecient combat strategies, we may as well bring up the fact that these guys have 70 melee weapons which can completly wreak entire waves of enemies in just a couple of hits:p
 
For me Cretoch+Infinite Magnum made the combat sections last about a 1/4th of the length of the ER
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Before Brad starts complaining too much this episode let everyone else witness how he ran past multiple zombies only to get jumped by them a few moments later, pointed out how a place to sleep would be better than using health kits only to skip past trying the cells downstairs (which have beds in them to sleep), wall monsters in hiding yet Brad standing right next to them where they could grab York  & easing some problems of where to go by looking at map on which doors are open.   
 
I like Brad but OMG there are times he drives me crazy. He did at least get to experience the demon dog so at least he did something the other team hasn't done in the game.

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@mutha3 said:
" @kevinski:@Boom_goes_the_dynamite:   If we're gonna discuss effecient combat strategies, we may as well bring up the fact that these guys have 70 melee weapons which can completly wreak entire waves of enemies in just a couple of hits:p  For me Cretoch+Infinite Magnum made the combat sections last about a 1/4th of the length of the ER "
Efficient is one thing, but safe is another. I never really got into melee weapons, personally. They're great when they work, but their "feel" is just a bit off for me. They can be really rewarding when used properly, but I prefer the safety that range brings. Seeing Brad unload 1/3 of an entire infinite SMG clip for one zombie (and this happens often) just blows my mind. I've never bothered to get Grecotch, though. How wide is its attack angle? Is it comparable to that of the ice axe?