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Endurance Run

Endurance Run: Persona 4 - Part 112

Hey, you know what? Fishing is boring. But you know what's not? Bunnies!

Vinny and Jeff sit down and take a crack at the latest game in the Shin Megami Tensei series. Will they make it through the entire game?

Jul. 21 2009

Cast: Jeff, Vinny

Posted by: Drew

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i've never heard of the persona games. what system are they for?

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Fishing:

The time between the water ripples and the power of the rumble nudges can give you a hint of what kind of fish is currently around.

You can reset the fishing (and possibly change the fish type) by pressing the fishing button ( Circle? ), but if you press it at the wrong time (when the controller rumbles probably), you waste a bait as you fail to catch the fish.

There are bigger fish around when it rains.

You're looking to get a goldfish right now, which causes very rapid ripples and nonexistent rumble, if I remember correctly. Bigger fish have longer time between ripples and the rumble is stronger.

EDIT: Removed the incorrect part. The guide I was looking at was wrong or I misread something.
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"you kids and your SpaceBooks and MyFaces"

I lol'd pretty hard at that

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Jeff! Vinny! Just to let you know, even though Naoto hasn't recovered yet, and the optional boss not there either, you can actually still go in her dungeon and get her weapon on the last floor. I tried it before. *whisper* it works...*whisper*

There's a mail order on a Sunday. I think it was a Red Goldfish combo. So instead of fishing, you can just order that on Sunday. I don't know exactly the date though.

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The bigger fish are only available starting November. There are two types of big fish: "Huge Fish" and "The Guardian". The former is the normal type, while the latter is the rarer type. You can only get the guardian by getting Fox's S.Link to 9; you'll then get a special fishing rod.

You can tell which fish you'll get by feeling the controller rumble (low rumble/short intervals equals to small fish, while deep rumble/long intervals equals to big fish) and by looking at the ripples around the lure (fast ripples/short intervals equals to small fish while slow ripples/long intervals equals to big fish). The Red Goldfish is the smallest fish, which means you are searching for a low rumble/short intervals and fast ripples. If you think the fish that's playing with the lure is not the goldfish, simply recast the lure by pressing the circle button. Careful, you need to press the button before the fish grabs the lure, or else you'll get a "miss" and lose a turn and some bait.

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Yo Vinny! Whats poppin', bro'a?

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Huge fish are always available, but only on rainy days before November.  They are also for sale from Tanaka.

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@Xael:

I want to make small correction for your last sentence about "two biggest fish types also aren't available until November apparently."
Two biggest fish types are Huge Fish and Guardian.Huge Fish can be caught on rainy days as soon as you can start fishing.Guardian can be caught only if you get Angler Set from oldman at riverbed.In order to trigger that event,you must reached Hermit social link Rank 9,get the final Ema request and bring a Huge Fish to that oldman. 
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Kid MURDERRR!

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When I grow up I want to be
One of the harvesters of the sea
I think before my days are done
I want to be a fisherman.

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To get a red goldfish:

- Feel the vibrations: unless they are really weak, it's not a goldfish
- If the vibrations are too strong, press O to pull your line out - this will not cost you one of your turns if you do it quickly enough
- Keep doing that until a goldfish gets on the line and then reel it in
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@Gahzoo: Ah didn't realise bosses were resistant to it, but I equiped that "half sp consuption" item to Noato so she didn't rinse through sp so quickly plus the protection from light and dark was also usefull. Can't rember what her persona was like before rank 10 but after it rocks (especially for such a little guy)
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@Curufinwe said:
" To get a red goldfish:

- Feel the vibrations: unless they are really weak, it's not a goldfish- If the vibrations are too strong, press O to pull your line out - this will not cost you one of your turns if you do it quickly enough- Keep doing that until a goldfish gets on the line and then reel it in "
Talk about sexual innuendo …
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I never lol'd so hard as when Chie popped up from under the hospital bed, yelling about getting sick from eating too many steaks!

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@atomic_dumpling said:
" @Curufinwe said:
" To get a red goldfish:

- Feel the vibrations: unless they are really weak, it's not a goldfish- If the vibrations are too strong, press O to pull your line out - this will not cost you one of your turns if you do it quickly enough- Keep doing that until a goldfish gets on the line and then reel it in "
Talk about sexual innuendo … "
Especially when Vinny mentioned a "red goldfish" when near Yukiko at 2:40.
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@Vandal: I wouldn't count on them getting Naoto to level 10.
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I got a good Persona anecdote: I'm playing P3:FES right now, and I happened upon an Adamant Beetle (weakness: lightning). I cast Zio, we rush. Mitsuru happens to crit him with a simple attack, we rush. Then Akihiko, the other Zio guy, attacks instead of casting, and also crits him, and we rush. The the next guy ALSO crits him, and we rush. Then I Zio, and we rush. So, to sum up: 2 Zios and 3 consecutive Crit hits. Lawl.

Also, that game has a glitch where the healing cups don't heal the party, which is annoying and inconvenient.

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@Bonzi2387 said:
" i've never heard of the persona games. what system are they for? "
There have been a few on them. I believe the first one was on the PS1, but the next few were on the PS2. Im not sure, it's probably easier to just look it up online since the universe it takes place in has tons of games over a bunch of systems.
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GET TO RANK TEN WITH NANAKO AND

KANJI
And Naoto:

Distance>1m


you'll understand :)

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I really hope they get naoto girlfriend status because thats the most popular pairing in japan and America.

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Good street fighter reference in there. Oh and the part about eyes as a bodily function cracked me up as well. Great job, guys!

@Madara117 said:

" I really hope they get naoto girlfriend status because thats the most popular pairing in japan and America. "
Er, no it's not.
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What does the mug they got from Dojima do?

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 Tips to increase Knowledge and courage for Naoto S. Link.  No spoilers in here.

  Knowledge: You can study on your desk at night. +3 PTs *
                  You can study at the Library after school. +3PTs *
                  Certain Lessons from teacher. +3 PTs
                  Giving the right answer on Lessons. +3 PTs
                  Eating the special Ramen at Aiya (3000 Yen) +3
                  Reading Bug Encylopedia and Number Series. +3 PTs
   
         Note *Increase by Double on raining days.


Courage:Working Part time in Hospital. +3 PTs
          Eating the rotten food in your fridge. +5 PTs
  Eating the special Ramen at Aiya (3000 Yen)
                  Read the Man Series +3 PTS
                  Defeating the Bonus boss at dungeons.
                  Certain choices made in the game can increase Courage.







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Woot! FISHING!!!!!

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@T0mF5: It's a level 10 Social Link item. That's what allows Charlie to fuse the Ultimate Personas of each Arcana. And they carry over into a New Game+, so you can fuse without maxing the Social Link again.
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@Madara117: What is? The main character and Naoto? No.
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     Days that Rise, Kanji, and Naoto are available.  No spoilers.

Rise:  friday, sat, sunday. Holidays & Sundays: shopping District , South

Kanji:  wed, thur, sat, sunday. Holidays & Sundays: Shopping District, North

Naoto: monday, tue, wed, sat, sunday. Holidays & Sundays: Samegawa Flood Plain

 I suggest once you start Naoto you complete her first before doing any one else besides Rise and Kanji.
 If you are able to not get the bad ending you will have more time to finish some social links but not Nanako's.

                                                    IMPORTANT!!!!  
 If you want to finish Nanako's S. Link you have until the end of October !!





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You need to MAX Nanako so you can fuse a Norn, which is one of the best Persona in the game. Without spoiling anything, lets just say Nanako's deadline is soon, so chill with her every chance to get. You'll be glad you did later on in the game.

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 I suggest working on your knowledge and courage for Naoto, Nanako when she is open talk to her, Rise when you can, Kanji is the lower priority but you want him at 10 at end when there is time.

 If done correct you should have Nanako, Dojima, Yosuke, Kanji, Rise, Chie, Yukiko, Naoto, Sayoko, Teddie, Investigation Team, and Seekers of Truth by the end of the game if you get the true ending.

 You may be able to even get Yumi and Kou to rank 10 but they are on the back list till you get every one else for they are not as important. Forget the Young Mother day care for S. Link and money and just do Sayoko for the money and her S. Link.

 Once Nanako is complete and you have max knowledge/courage for Naoto you can go fishing at night when hospital is not up so you can do the Fox quest later.  I hope you guy's read my post and that they are helpfull.

 I want you guys to do the best at Links for it is the fun part of the show listining to your commentary :)

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@RVonE said:
@Madara117 said:
" I really hope they get naoto girlfriend status because thats the most popular pairing in japan and America. "
Er, no it's not. "
Your kidding right?  Naoto is easily the most popular girlfriend. My collection of Persona 4 doujins is proof of that.
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@Nexas said:
" @RVonE said:
@Madara117 said:
" I really hope they get naoto girlfriend status because thats the most popular pairing in japan and America. "
Er, no it's not. "
Your kidding right?  Naoto is easily the most popular girlfriend. My collection of Persona 4 doujins is proof of that.
"
No, that is proof of either your selective downloading or of the fact that Naoto is a very popular ecchi-character. It does not necessarily exemplify the popularity of the specific Souji Seta x Naoto Shirogane pairing.
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@CH3BURASHKA: That's not a glitch. It´s randomized whether only you or the whole party gets healed.
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Not sure if you guys read this far, but you can still get a red goldfish during the night or the rain.

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@PantyshotMQN said:
" You need to MAX Nanako so you can fuse a Norn, which is one of the best Persona in the game. Without spoiling anything, lets just say Nanako's deadline is soon, so chill with her every chance to get. You'll be glad you did later on in the game. "
Norn is the ultimate persona of Fortune while Nanako SL is Justice.I hate to say this,but all Justice personas are weak to dark and specialised in light magic.Unless they want to have Hama/Mahama specialized persona or maximize all SL(which is already impossible for them),it is not really helpful to maximize Nanako SL.  
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I don't know what a litero'cola is.  Do we sell a litero'cola?

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@LordAndrew said:
" @Vandal: I wouldn't count on them getting Naoto to level 10. "
I think they will if they do her S.Link every chance they get from now until Nov... until they can't any more.
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Awesome episode! And you guys are better at fishing than I am. My timing's always off. >.>

Anyways, looking forward to tomorrow! Naoto's one of my favorite characters. =)

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Jeff: "How much do you pee?"

Me: *dies of laughter*

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@amino said:
" Norn is the ultimate persona of Fortune while Nanako SL is Justice.I hate to say this,but all Justice personas are weak to dark and specialised in light magic.Unless they want to have Hama/Mahama specialized persona or maximize all SL(which is already impossible for them),it is not really helpful to maximize Nanako SL.   "
They really only need one Light and one Dark Persona.  Or, maybe they don't.  The game won't tell them what monsters are week to instant-death until they max out Rise's Social Link.  Even then, they've gotten along fine without always trying Hama/Mudo, and Rise can't tell them everything.
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I read that you can get the Red Goldfish by fishing at the flood plains.

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@gakon5 said:

"@amino said:
" Norn is the ultimate persona of Fortune while Nanako SL is Justice.I hate to say this,but all Justice personas are weak to dark and specialised in light magic.Unless they want to have Hama/Mahama specialized persona or maximize all SL(which is already impossible for them),it is not really helpful to maximize Nanako SL.   "
They really only need one Light and one Dark Persona.  Or, maybe they don't.  The game won't tell them what monsters are week to instant-death until they max out Rise's Social Link.  Even then, they've gotten along fine without always trying Hama/Mudo, and Rise can't tell them everything."


Not only that but Norn is only weak to Electricity, absorbs Wind, and blocks Ice. It has Debilitate, and that is a godsend later in the game. Also, since Vinny and Jeff are such big fans of Invigorate... Norn has Invigorate 3.

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Guys, try to ace the exams for once :D (the gifts you get from nanako/dojima are usually worth it).

Can't remember if you needed rank 4 or 5 in knowledge for this upcoming one, but as mentioned you should try to max out knowledge (and courage) asap anyways.

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Liter? More like Litre.


Geez
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nice episode

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Heh, I actually checked about the goldfish.  You can get them on the shopping channel!  Want to know which day?  October 2nd, the one you just missed.  I know, it "amused" me too.

Really, you're not doing anything wrong with the fish.  It's just chance which ones you get.  They encouraged you to do it on a sunny day because the usually good fish, notably the Huge Fish, only come out on rainy days at this point in the game.  But you can get the crappy red goldfish any day.  So if you want to fish again, for God's sake, don't do it when you could be raising an S.Link.  Wait for a quiet night when Nanako and the increasingly less naughty nurse are around, for example.

To further enhance your chance, when you fish, watch the speed of the ripples and the vibrations on your controller.  In general, the bigger the fish, the longer the gaps between ripples/vibrations and the stronger the vibrations.  A goldfish's will come very quickly.  If you get one that feels longer, just press the circle button before the fish bites to switch to a different one.  I know, all of this is tedious, but the game didn't anticipate people making videos of it and refusing to reload if they get fish they don't want.

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They don't half learn a lot of pub-quiz trivia at that school.

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good one

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@Nexas: I know have you read the one where souji says: I want to eat naoto then some "mysterious liquid" gets all over kanji- F'ing hilarious
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@Tebbit: No. Liter is the correct spelling in the US. Don't be one of THOSE people. Just because you do it a certain way doesn't mean it's the only right way.