Endurance Run: Persona 4 - Part 130

" @Danielsan said:

" @deFacto said:

" WOWW. I hate that Nanako is still alive. All the passion the player should have for finding the real killer just kind of disappeared at that moment.   That's really bad story design IMO. This game turned to amazing when Nanako died, and then went back to "pretty good" when she woke up. I'll see what happens, but I was still dissapointed. "

Definitely agreed on that part. When I first went through the game I couldn't believe the balls that Atlus had to kill off Nanako. I too thought it was a bit of a cop out for her to recover but ooh well. "

I'm Glad I'm not the only one who felt this way. It's such a forced story twist, and her revival made no sense either. Everything else about this episode was great though. Lots of good jokes despite the dark turn. "

"So in Japan the Kotatsu is one of the traditional symbols of the winter season. For those who still don't know: a kotatsu […] "

I wonder if they plan to go from the True Ending or Good Ending.

Oh, JEFF AND VNNY,
 
You should check over by Nanako's pillow to get an item. It apears after you finish finals.

" @atomic_dumpling: Giorgio Agamben. The book is called 'The Open'. I highly recommend it. "

ARRRRRRGH! WHAT DID YOU DO!

" @RagingLion said:

"Btw, anyone have any wisdom on why oranges and kotatsus are this apparently great combination?  Is it just a random Japanese tradition that doesn't have any particular logic? "

So in Japan the Kotatsu is one of the traditional symbols of the winter season. For those who still don't know: a kotatsu generates heat underneath the table surface. The table surface is attached on top of a kind of blanket or futon. Of course, the idea is to put your legs underneath the blanket to warm yourself. This relates to the fact that Japanese houses traditionally are not very well insulated and can be quite drafty. Now as for the orange: there is a translation error in Persona 4. In the original Japanese version they speak of a fruit called a 'mikan'. This fruit is similar to an orange but is smaller and is perhaps more akin to a tangerine. The mikan is thus considered to be a variant of the mandarin orange (just like the tangerine). In Japan, the mikan is associated with winter because of the fact that it is filled with necessary vitamins for the winter season. However, there is something particular that links the mikan and the kotatsu, apart from their primary association with the winter season. The mikan is a fruit to be peeled, of course. And as such it is thought to generate a pleasant group activity; that is to say, the peeling and eating of the mikan is considered to be something best enjoyed with company. Now, the kotatsu is often the center piece of a family's home in the winter season. Japanese houses are generally very small and often have only one available room that is used as the living and eating (?) room. Therefor, the kotatsu is often a place of gathering for the family. Not only does the kotatsu itself warm the members of the family, but, of course, the family members warm each other with their presence. Combine this with the mikan and it should be obvious that they facilitate a gathering of the family and also generate the right conditions for good conversation and overall family bonding (family s.linking?).  Perhaps I'm a bit to rough and unnuanced in this exposition, but there you have it. If someone want to correct me on something, please feel free to do so. "

YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH Roll on the true ending XD

 The true killer is..... SPOILERS !!!!!

 Tanaka !!!

NANAKO'S DEAD!!!!!!!!

oh fuck no.  :O:O:O

I had a sad thought - despite J&V being on the route to the true ending, the bitching won't end. It will stop for an episode, or two, but not forever. We're going to find guys posting how hard Jeff and Vinny suck and how dumb them and their mothers are, because they did something WRONG. They already don't have chance (as far as I remember) to have Naoto on Christmas Eve, so there is one hot topic to complain for some morons. And there will be dungeons, so global happiness won't ensue. So the crying, dicking, giving orders instead of advice and doing EVERYTHING in place of just playing the damn game will go on, and on, and on, and on. Ech.

While I feel kinda sad that I probably won't relive some of "my" moments from P4 with you brothers in comments and Jeff and Vinny, I'm not whining, because I'll see shit I didn't on my playthrough, and experience it in a different way than on youtube. Still, it's pathetic that some people identify rancour with acting like a twat.

I just got round to watching this. Awesome in every way. fantastic.

Why were people even hoping that Jeff and Vinny would invite Naoto over for Christmas Eve anyway? You know they would never do that.

Good Ending! Even though it's not over yet...

Some of you guys are kind of pretentious.

OMG emotional  rollercoaster lol
glad nanako is ressurrected, tho... shouldnt she be braindead by being dead so long?

Great job. :)

I would save often from here on, though. ;)

After watching the worst ending on youtube, I'm bloody glad they avoided it.

The death scene was even more depressing with Jeff and Vinnie's stuttering to boot. Then again, the revival scene was awesome. "Ah... You're not gonna sue right? She's alive and everything."

That was INTENSE!

Woot! Not the bad ending!

When there was the death scene, Jeff and Vinny's silence just added more to the emotion. As soon as it went beeeeeeeeeeep, I was like...shit...no...speechless along with Jeff and Vinny

The Seekers of Truth campaign has begun! So we're halfway through the game, right? Awesome! I can't wait to see what Namatame's persona looks like.
Anyway, I get the oranges bit now from reading the comments. At my house we called them "satsumas" which I think is a company that distributes that type of fruit in the US around Christmas time. They'd always go down in the toe of the stockings.
Great episode today, guys.

I don't get the whole one save thing. If you have the slots free why not use them. Surely you guys are going to go back again to show the other endings once this first run is done?

This Summer...
Youske Hanamaru is...
BATMAN.

Im just glad that Nanako survived, otherwise it would have really bummed me out

snow made me think of Ryan and Vinny playing Matrix Online

" @Danielsan said:

" @deFacto said:

" WOWW. I hate that Nanako is still alive. All the passion the player should have for finding the real killer just kind of disappeared at that moment.   That's really bad story design IMO. This game turned to amazing when Nanako died, and then went back to "pretty good" when she woke up. I'll see what happens, but I was still dissapointed. "

Definitely agreed on that part. When I first went through the game I couldn't believe the balls that Atlus had to kill off Nanako. I too thought it was a bit of a cop out for her to recover but ooh well. "

I'm Glad I'm not the only one who felt this way. It's such a forced story twist, and her revival made no sense either. Everything else about this episode was great though. Lots of good jokes despite the dark turn. "

Great episode. And I gotta say, those dialogue options made so much more sense when watching this, as opposed to when I was playing it myself ...  First time around, I got completely suckered into one of the bad endings.  Investigation team, GO! 

Normal ending so far confirmed!

Dude...the fucking music killed the mood for this so badly. NANAKO'S DEAD
 
*music that has been associated with relief through the rest of the game*

ALRIGHT not the bad ending, i skipped 10 episodes here just to check it out.

Shit got real on this episode, wow. At least Nanako is apparently ok, I was worried.

Intense episode.

Sup... BITCHES.

Man, playing Persona 4 3 times and on my second run through of the Endurance Run I STILL get teary-eyed during this episode.

Jeff's "fog of my own" comment for Dojima made me tear up lol

"That's so Chie" 

"You have no messages..."
 
I'm glad they focused on the party member's S Links but they haven't finished any of the other school mate ones.

Man, playing through this for the first time was so sad, it made me teary-eyed, and games don't have that effect on me very often, just goes to show how awesome the game is
 
Also, 500th comment