It really is. Random drops are meant for RPGs, not action games. >:(

So because they managed to brilliantly integrate a feature generally found in a different genre of video game, the update sucks?

The update is awesome, and its free.

I hate the way the new items are obtained since there seems to be no rhyme or reason.  I wish there were 2 ways to get the items, the new way AND the old way.  I don't see why there is any reason we can't have both.

Valve will explain it tomorrow in a blog post they have said.  I am curious to see how the system works as I did not obtain any items, duplicate or new, during my time with the update... which was quite extensive lol.

Also, I don't understand why some people come here and bash the OP.  He isn't complaining about the content itself, just the way that your characters get new items.  That seems pretty legit, really.  I am sure like most people he is grateful it is free, and not charging for this stuff.  Hell, games like CoD and Halo get off charging people for just maps.  Valve adds more than just new places to kill people, they also add new ways!  Thanks Valve!

Baaah! I hate free stuff! Baaaah!

The reason for the random drops is because of snot-nosed punk players farming achievements and getting their stuff illegitimately. This is a simple case of nobody being able to have nice things because of jackasses. Besides, achievements don't unlock anything in relatively every other game. This is how the game was supposed to be: people getting new weapons slowly. Valve had to change it.

Also: the new update comes with awesome new levels and weapons for two more classes: How is that stupid? I submit, sirs, that you are simply selfish jackasses. Frankly? If you don't like it, then fucking leave. I won't miss you, and Valve already has your money. Sounds win-win to me.

The is one single line of the update that I think is stupid

I haven't played the new update yet, but I really like the idea. It stops jerks farming achievements to get the new items in 10 minutes, when to legitimately get them it takes a lot longer

You could have just used that achievement unlocker if you are so against the old system, but now you could play for 100 hours+ and still not get anything or copies of old crap you already unlocked. Add to that now that there are people afk in spawn in games waiting for the new guns but not playing.

Now I do agree that there needed to be a new system for people that don't like achievements but why not just have it as a supplement? Why a complete replacement?

Or give the players that unlock stuff some incentive and unlock everything as soon as the update hits, like a gold sniper revolver or something, just make it cosmetic.

They really screwed up here IMO.

So I am assuming this is the PC version, correct?

i dont think the way you get the weapons is stupid or anything like that. the problem is that it doesn't reward people who play for a long time (or does i'm still not entirely sure about how you get weapons now). But may I say that the spy and sniper achievements are really good.

Now that I've played the update a bit, and heard other peoples stories, it does sound a bit weird and slightly broken. But valve take community feedback very seriously, so I'd imagine they'll refine the system in the near future.

“As in everything else we do, we want to iterate, so this is really the first step towards our desired implementation. We also think we have bugs in the system as well, since we’re seeing some players not finding any items after a few hours of play, which is not at all how it’s tuned. We want unlockable drops to be a pretty regular occurrence for players, with the cosmetic hats being the rare finds.”

Being free is a terrible argument.

Say you order a cup of coffee, you're drinking it and really enjoy it.  I decide to come up and put a bunch of cream in it.  You don't like cream in your coffee, you don't want cream in your coffee, and now you don't want to drink your coffee.  "But it's free!", no.

I don't mind the update all that much, since I still enjoy just playing.  But I hope they change it and make the unlocks a little more frequent.

thats bullshit, this is good for players who don't get the achievements, as a source of inspiration to keep playing.

they will fix the system in the near future.

I've played for a few hours and all I've unlocked was the Sandvich (which I already have). I'm sure Valve will update it soon to make it work better because they always do. Apart from that I think Payload Race is really fun new mode though it took me a while to get used to Pipeline because it's so big and varied.

It seems that the unlock balancing has been changed. I've been getting items much more regularly now. I've got 3 today, and I've only played for an hour or two. Whereas before they seemed incredibly rare. It seems much better, and I prefer this to the old system.

I like this added element of RPGness, but if you liked getting weapons through achievements, you can still do that.

I think it's a cool idea but the implementation hasn't worked properly.  I've played roughly 12 hours since the release of the update and all I've managed to get are another 2 Flare Guns, another Backburner and another Axetinguisher.  All of which I had.  

this sums it up 10 hours played + 16 achievements = 0 unlocks

Personally im hating the new system of unlocking stuff, though im loving the added maps and weapons. Before there was a tangable goal (though I never really aimed for acheivments, I just like getting them as I play) to get stuff now it just seems to be me watching for a line of text to appear on my screen and people complaining about duplicates. I wish they would go back to the old system personally, even if people "gamed" the system they usually did it on farming servers and the only effect it had on my game was that people had diffrent weapons from me, but people still have diffrent weapons from me.