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Posted by squidracerX
@FuzzYLemoN said:
" @Ryax said:
" @FuzzYLemoN said:
" Ah, the third Endurance Run. Even though they refuse to admit it. :3 "
i don't think its an endurance run because they aren't trying to beat it in one sitting. "
Um, do you really think they played Persona 4 for 99 hours straight? o_O "
they did... and that's why vinny and jeff went insane, and now Giantbomb just plays old clips and audio files of them in there place so we THINK they are still around, but last i heard one of them is dead and the other is wandering the streets in a hospital gown.
Posted by EtherealSlayer

The missions scale to the number of people in your group.  Since you had 3 people in your group it was spawning a number of Klingon ships suitable to a group of 3, but you only had two of the people in your group in system, hence you got owned.  Plus its a good idea to pick off the weaker ships first so if you die there are less ships to fight.
Edited by DukeTogo

Here's a breakdown on what is 90% of the chat in the Star Base.
 
"Where's Sulu?"
 
"Where's the Stateroom?"
 
There's a bug where if a group of players enters a zone and one or more drops out, the enemies that were added to balance the fight don't de-spawn.  There is also a bug where a group of ships will target the first player's ship in range, and nuke it without any type of aggro or taunt from other ships.  A workaround is to roll deep in a pack and not let one ship go too far ahead.
 
Also, so far I've seen about a 70/30 split of space/ground missions.

Posted by monster9999

Sorry boys buy i enjoy my matrix online much more....   :(

Posted by jarorick01

I really like the game, so far, but there are tons of areas for improvement. I know it's still in beta, but before the game releases they really need to work with the autopilot feature in Sector Space, and improve speeds in Sector Space as well. Further, they really need to increase server capacities lol. Hours of "server is busy, try again" is rather frustrating. 

Posted by xdan0x

I've been pressing the "Fire Everything!" button furiously for about an hour. I had no idea there was a auto fire button, my index finger thanks you.

Posted by xdan0x

It''s awesome how flustered Brad gets in some games, reminds me of my mum playing Desert Strike all those years ago!

Posted by Ishatawk
@Detrian said:
" IF you slowed down THEN you wouldn't have to turn as much since you'd be in position longer and THEN the turning ratio issue wouldn't be a problem. This ain't rocket science, what the fuck? "
What he said. But without the profanity.
Posted by Zokari

Fights are a million times easier without a group. They scale way too harshly. It's a pretty big problem with the game, honestly.

Posted by gakon
@Lind_L_Taylor said:
" Yeah, I'm getting a bit annoyed at how MMOs feel the need to dumb it all down in the early levels.  They need to give the game players some credit that we can figure out how to scan something, not have a full blown "mission" based on scanning something. LOL.  These dummy missions are merely fluff & I hope they don't exist outside of the beta.  I was thinking of getting a lifetime subscription but the game looks like it might not hold my interest for 3 months let alone years & years.  I still have hope they will grow the game though & that the beta is just introductory fare to give you an idea of game play. "
But see, I can't call either of the missions I just referenced as part of the tutorial.  The game already taught me how to use interact nodes hours ago.
 
Perhaps the problem is with how they're done.  When I played WoW a lot, the "right click five objects to collect them" quests were my favorites because they require so little effort.  Here, I'm beaming down to a giant planet, which could be its own zone, have quests, have its own story, and yet all I'm doing is talking to some NPCs and then leaving.
 
There's another complaint.  Why can't I just beam down to any planet and check it out?  I like the idea of exploration in MMOs, and this universe would be ripe for it.  They have the galaxy set up, even, I just can't check all of it out.
Posted by HiImMikeCruz

I'm having issues with the missions in this game. I'm doing the Patrol missions Brad's been doing but after I wipe everyone out the game doesn't register that I've completed that system.

Edited by Stocker

I really want this game.
 
The founders  called themselves changelings by the way. :)

Posted by Hef

Are their GM's in the beta?  And if so...are they called Q's?    

Posted by xdan0x

Can we have a big meet up in one of these quick looks?

Posted by Jayzilla

this game ain't ready for release. it is really fun though and i love the direction its going in. if it release on the 2nd of Feb. like it's supposed to....idk. bad news. I won't be getting this for like 3 months though because of all the issues. there shouldn't be massive log-in issues during an open beta.

Posted by breaking3po

watching Brad do this is frustrating. slowing down does decrease turn radius. watching him full impulse into every fight sucks too. and he's constantly not firing at anything in a big battle.
 
its no wonder hes blowing up 10 seconds into the video.
Posted by DrWhat

Oh, man, lol, that was pretty bad.
 
If you do more of these, just make sure everyone in your party is with you (you might have to use the chat box) when you're going into a mission. If they aren't going to be there then you shouldn't be in the party - missions scale with the number of people in your party, whether they're there or not.
 
The missions you get from Admiral Quinn are the best and most interesting and have the most ground stuff (which I really enjoy). It's a lot about having a good team, though. The game can be pretty great when you're in a team of people, coordinating stuff and doing the star trek thing. Solo, it drags a lot, for me.
 
Pro-tip: the "hail starfleet" button in the top-right, under the map (it looks like a data pad), lets you talk directly to most of the mission-givers. You can get new missions there and turn in completed ones, etc. If you like big space battles you might want to look for the Starbase 24 mission, it's a big fleet battle (like a raid, basically.)
 
I thought STO was a terrible, shitty excuse for a game for the first six hours or so, and then I started grouping up and things really started clicking. Once you hit Lieutenant 6 you get to start up a Klingon character, too, and I just did that and man it's awesome. And hard as hell.

Posted by Capum15
@Metal_Mills said:
" Oh god the equipping. I wanted to yell at my monitor. "
Same >.<
 
Fun Beta though, I like the space combat. 
 
Thank you Brad, for pointing out that was the area to take the random stuff you can scan. I was wondering what to do with all of them. 
 
Oh cool, I just did that Diplomatic Orders quest. Auto-matched me with two other people, and we destroyed everything. He got wrecked with that 4-player "Balanced spawn" thing. And that mission had a pretty good ground part, too. Weird seeing the differences, I went to that Bhea system and only found 2 ships together, then single ships spaced far apart.
Posted by Lingxor

Brad, 
 
Your torpedo arc is in front of you... don't fly through your targets.
 
Press F instead of clicking to interact with npcs/objects.
 
You can use the arrow keys to modulate your shields. They'll shift for a few seconds so you don't need to spam it that much. Pressing delete will balance your shields.
 
There's also a power transfer delay whenever you use full impulse or change power configs so keep that in mind. Low weapon power means crappy phaser damage.
 
Coordinate with your team and things will go much faster.
 
There's a fair amount of UI stuff could use a lot of work and the game doesn't clearly explain some pretty important concepts... but there's still fun to be had in STO.

Posted by pmm217

If you're looking for some shady Federation action, check out the season 6 Deep Space 9 episode "In the Pale Moonlight" one of the best episodes. Sisko and Garek basically punk the Romulans into joining the war against the Dominion.

Posted by Lingxor

Also, show off Sector 24 next time.

Posted by Robo

If i recall the missions correctly they cut it off JUST before an away mission.

Posted by Adziboy

LFM STO:SPTF P05 Vinny
Edited by PJ

I'm apparently awesome at this game since I had no trouble whit that mission and I did it alone untill I got to the planet, after that I had 2 guys whit me.
And I was also lvl 3 and done the missions in the same order, granted I did this 3 days ago, maby they changed shit
 
Also Brad, future not, use TAB to change targrted enemys and use E to pick up and scan shit. Saves you alot of time. And you can use Right-click and choose Equip if you have problems draging stuff to the boxes.

Posted by DannyJ

The skill upgrading system is overwhelming to me, but the game is a lot of fun.

Posted by Robo
@Lingxor: Yeah my main issue is the lack of explanation, especially with a lot of the UI. Granted there are some pretty common MMO standards present and a lot of it is relatively self explanatory, but a quick run-down of various UI elements and effects like the power transfers would be nice.
 
Another issue is the sort of disjointed feel of it all. It just doesnt feel like a tight, cohesive world. Everything feels so separated with all the instancing and loading of various areas.
 
My last gripe about this game so far is it just doesn't feel very "massively multiplayer." If I'm going to be paying a monthly fee I'd like it to have a good social atmosphere of sorts. This feels like I'm playing a single player game where I can occasionally co-op with other players.
 There are other games I can play for that without the monthly fee.
 
Despite all that, I'm enjoying the beta and I'm really interested to see how it is more fleshed out at release. The Star Trek world is a great setting for an ambitious MMO like this, I hope it all comes together.
Posted by gakon

I caught a Mankrik's Wife joke in the Zone chat.

Posted by Chapelzero

Haha, wow Ryan is an insufferable douchebag.

Posted by CustardArmy

yesssssssssss....... i needed my next hit..... dont stop!!!
Posted by JoelTGM

what a soft shelled sea biscuit

Posted by gike987

Brad needs to go back to the mission he left. It's one of the best low level missions in the game.

Posted by Gdizzle

Anyone else noticed the Sirius Sector Black?

Posted by Lind_L_Taylor
@gakon5 said:
" @Lind_L_Taylor said:
" Yeah, I'm getting a bit annoyed at how MMOs feel the need to dumb it all down in the early levels.  They need to give the game players some credit that we can figure out how to scan something, not have a full blown "mission" based on scanning something. LOL.  These dummy missions are merely fluff & I hope they don't exist outside of the beta.  I was thinking of getting a lifetime subscription but the game looks like it might not hold my interest for 3 months let alone years & years.  I still have hope they will grow the game though & that the beta is just introductory fare to give you an idea of game play. "
But see, I can't call either of the missions I just referenced as part of the tutorial.  The game already taught me how to use interact nodes hours ago.  Perhaps the problem is with how they're done.  When I played WoW a lot, the "right click five objects to collect them" quests were my favorites because they require so little effort.  Here, I'm beaming down to a giant planet, which could be its own zone, have quests, have its own story, and yet all I'm doing is talking to some NPCs and then leaving.  There's another complaint.  Why can't I just beam down to any planet and check it out?  I like the idea of exploration in MMOs, and this universe would be ripe for it.  They have the galaxy set up, even, I just can't check all of it out. "
LOL.  I guess they're wanting you to pay for it.  If they put too much of the game into the Beta, there are diehards out there that would put in 100+ hours to the point where there would be no reason to pay to play the game when it was released.
 
If it's like CoH/V, well it'll be a given that the content will be light & repetitive pretty fast.
Posted by FLStyle

That was a little crazy, half of it was good crazy, the other was frustration crazy.

Posted by Capn_Chunky

I never get tired of the Shatner-fied opening.... Awesome!

Posted by breaking3po

The missions scale, possibly to the number members of members in your party, as opposed to how many of you spawn in the zone. 
Posted by halcyonTwilight

 Quick tips for Brad;

1) Missions with unique titles (e.g. not "Patrol Sector X") usually are combination space/ground missions. 
2) You can only see the bridge and equip items out of combat.
3) You can spend your skill points to beef up your ship, and you can also spend officer skill points to lvl up Bridge Officer abilities (like Emergency Power to Shields). Doing this makes the game much more bearable. 
4) Don't go to another system alone if you're in a group; the # of enemies there will spawn based on whether you're in a group or not.

Posted by RVonE
@Detrian said:
"IF you slowed down THEN you wouldn't have to turn as much since you'd be in position longer and THEN the turning ratio issue wouldn't be a problem. This ain't rocket science, what the fuck? "
Posted by jarorick01

You definately need to take out the BoPs then focus on the warships. Try to get in close and take out the BoPs first.

Posted by Blackout62

Pulling. A. Brad.

Edited by MrKlorox

50 percent throttle allows for faster turning than anything between zero and 100. You'll notice the autopilot only uses two throttle settings when in use: full power when going straight, half power when turning hard. Also no matter what the throttle is at, the engine power setting makes an impact.
 
I don't know why your autopilot was messing up. Mine never seems to do the random turning thing, unless a ship is in the way.
 
These need to be broadcast live with somebody manning a chatbox ready to communicate tips to ya'll then rendered into feature quality for those who missed it.

Posted by IceTrey87

maneuverability increases at lower speeds, turning at full throttle makes you turn in an unneccesarily wide arc.  It's the same in every flight sim.  Ever.
Posted by reddin

I would refrain from echoing what everybody else who is playing this said, except they are all right: Slowing down does make you more effective in combat, missions do scale to your group and for more missions/turning in missions hail starfleet (icon under the mini-map). Also, spend those skill-points. Don't forget to spend them on your officers as well.

I am enjoying the beta, apart from busy/crashing servers that is. But that's par for the course for betas I guess. I couldn't care less if they scrapped the whole ground part though. The MMO gameplay seems a lot better suited to the space parts, but I'm not really a MMO player in general (doubt I'll be playing this after the beta, maybe when I'm done with Mass Effect 2).  

Posted by Chris

Don't want to insult you like some other people in this thread have but I think you should play between episodes in the future, it's just too painfully slow watching you wrangle basic MMO concepts.
 
I don't expect anyone to know these things straight away but it's still pretty boring watching someone make basic mistakes over and over again. Atleast if you played "after hours" you could work out the basic gameplay so you don't spend half an hour each episode trying to move inventory items or flying passed enemies at full speed.

Posted by VisariLoyalist

*sigh* the endurance run just isn't the same anymore 

Posted by TheRemedy

Someone already said this but I thought I'd reiterate since I made an account just to post this. Your party size determines the difficulty of the mission. When you went in the zone you had 4 so it scaled to 4 even though just you and Vager were there. Also you guys need to use your skill points. Click the top left button to do so.

Edited by Sanaj

The escort mission probably wasn't any fun for you to try, it was interesting to watch though.
 
Maybe that's because it was a change from more Orion syndicate space battles.
 
Ryan, I agree that Tasha Yar was terrible.

Posted by DukesT3
@squidracerX said:
" @Scooper said:
" I wish Ryan wasn't so bossy and analitic to Brad. I prefer Vinny because he's just like "Whatever! Shoot dudes!". "
admit it, you prefer Vinny because he is a very handsome man. "
I know I do! 
Posted by Reverseface

I'd like to see jeff get UP IN THIS MOTHERFUCKER!!!!!!!!

Posted by Nasar7
@Adziboy: For me the only ones worth watching are The Original Series and The Next Generation, and I like TOS waay more, it's classic. I might be in the minority for anyone under 40 though.... You should watch a few eps of TOS they are all up on youtube legit by CBS.
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