Can you install games on a usb stick? I know they recently made it so usb sticks are compatible but does that mean I can like install Mass Effect 2 on a 16GB stick and play it off my 360 or is it just for saves?
Nope. Microsoft has strict rules on that. They're afraid people are gonna use modded hard drives to cheat. Even if you're just trying to add your own bigger hard drive.
A 4G HDD would cost far too much to sell. A 250gb HDD is probably cheaper. It's integrated flash memory or they include one of those terrible X360 branded SanDisk thumbdrives.
Based on their previous hard drive strategies (Note: screw over 20 GB early adopters), I can see Microsoft making 4 GB hard drives that are juuust cheap enough for some uninformed consumers to think they're worth it.
That being said, I just bought a 4 GB flash drive the size of my thumbnail for under $10...
Oh, I didn't realize there was an Arcade S system - which is entirely laziness on my part due to apathy. At least it will have some minor storage for people who rarely play games (like the casuals that only buy a couple sports games a year or something), but I was always planning on just getting a fat thumb drive for my next replacement 360 anyway.
GameStop did that promotion where if you traded in your 360 you could get a big discount towards the new 250gig 360. It just so happened that I was in the market for a new 360 right before E3 and with all the rumors swirling about a redesign I decided to bide my time. Well they put up the deal and I went ahead and did it.
Now the reason I was in the market for a new 360 is cause my old one was broke. It would only boot up for about 15 minutes before it would crash with a terrible sound and a bunch of fluorescent green and pink lines came across the screen. My 360 was junk. So I gave it to GameStop for a huge discount on a new one. What made things better was that I had a 20 gig hard drive and they punched in for a 120. The new 360 is super quiet too - here's hoping it is as fail-resistant as its been made out to be.
I'm sure everyone else is also wondering how you go through 11 Xbox 360's, let alone how you can afford that many.
It would be a good move. There are still some Xbox 360 users that just play casually, and don't need that much room. Aside from that, I still think that 4 GB isn't that realistic, especially for $199. Maybe something like 20 or 40 GB would work better. Memory isn't so expensive these days, and 4 GB for that price is unreasonable.
Thank God, thank God, thank God. If this has wifi, I'm TOTALLY gonna trade in my old 360, buy this, and slap my current hacked 250gig drive in it. HDDHACKR for the win!
Obviously fake. Microsoft wants to push their digital distribution of games through Games On Demand as well as movies through Zune. This would hurt them in the long run since anyone who buys a 4GB system can't even download one game or HD movie.
" @JJWeatherman: That didn't stop them from having Arcade consoles with no harddrive for the past 2-3 years. "
Oh it's been longer than 2-3 years. It wouldn't make any sense to continue that business model though with the things they have rolled out since. (Zune and Games On Demand)
@max3000: Why stop at one 16-gig stick? I'd go whole-hog and get three of the bastards. One for saves, one for XBLA, one for installs. Non-Xbox-branded sticks are like $40 nowadays.
" @JJWeatherman: That didn't stop them from having Arcade consoles with no harddrive for the past 2-3 years. "
Oh it's been longer than 2-3 years. It wouldn't make any sense to continue that business model though with the things they have rolled out since. (Zune and Games On Demand) "
It'd make sense because they kept making Arcade consoles while they had those services out. And if they REALLY REALLY wanted people to use that stuff, then every single Xbox would have a 120GB and up HDD.
Plus the HDD's sold separately wouldn't cost two livers and a toe.
This article is completely believable. They want tiered things. One just so they can say "199 dollar XBOX". And the current new Xbox.
" Can you put your already-owned harddrive in it? "
Depends, do you have the new redesigned HDD model or are you talking about the old ones that go on top.
@Waffles13 said:
" Thank God, thank God, thank God. If this has wifi, I'm TOTALLY gonna trade in my old 360, buy this, and slap my current hacked 250gig drive in it. HDDHACKR for the win! "
" @JJWeatherman: That didn't stop them from having Arcade consoles with no harddrive for the past 2-3 years. "
Oh it's been longer than 2-3 years. It wouldn't make any sense to continue that business model though with the things they have rolled out since. (Zune and Games On Demand) "
It'd make sense because they kept making Arcade consoles while they had those services out. And if they REALLY REALLY wanted people to use that stuff, then every single Xbox would have a 120GB and up HDD. Plus the HDD's sold separately wouldn't cost two livers and a toe. This article is completely believable. They want tiered things. One just so they can say "199 dollar XBOX". And the current new Xbox. "
Nope. Microsoft has strict rules on that. They're afraid people are gonna use modded hard drives to cheat. Even if you're just trying to add your own bigger hard drive. "
Not true. If you flash a laptop drive with the official Xbox HDD firmware, you won't be banned because the system can't see the difference. You start modifying files, then yeah, you'll be banned, but just adding a bigger drive is totally safe.
@Haru48
said:
" @Dryker said:
" Can you put your already-owned harddrive in it? "
Depends, do you have the new redesigned HDD model or are you talking about the old ones that go on top.
@Waffles13
said:
" Thank God, thank God, thank God. If this has wifi, I'm TOTALLY gonna trade in my old 360, buy this, and slap my current hacked 250gig drive in it. HDDHACKR for the win! "
same for you. "
I'm not talking about slapping the whole shebang on there, I'm talking about pulling the drive out of the enclosure and slapping it in the Slim's.
Of course, in retrospect, it would be absurd to ship with a 4GB HDD but rather some type of flash memory, so chances are the new Arcade wouldn't even have a drive enclosure and therefore you'd need to get one off ebay or something. Although I'm still holding out hope that they release a Slim that has SOME sort of smaller HDD while still being <$300.
Brad if it is true you're probably going on your 11th Xbox360 then I am sorry to say but you're sad. After my third failure I decided to be done with 360 consoles and solely play and endorsed my gaming with Sony.
Nope. Microsoft has strict rules on that. They're afraid people are gonna use modded hard drives to cheat. Even if you're just trying to add your own bigger hard drive. "
Not true. If you flash a laptop drive with the official Xbox HDD firmware, you won't be banned because the system can't see the difference. You start modifying files, then yeah, you'll be banned, but just adding a bigger drive is totally safe.
I have something here that says otherwise. I mean I'm all for doing what you want with your system, but Microsoft doesn't care.
Nope. Microsoft has strict rules on that. They're afraid people are gonna use modded hard drives to cheat. Even if you're just trying to add your own bigger hard drive. "
Not true. If you flash a laptop drive with the official Xbox HDD firmware, you won't be banned because the system can't see the difference. You start modifying files, then yeah, you'll be banned, but just adding a bigger drive is totally safe.
I have something here that says otherwise. I mean I'm all for doing what you want with your system, but Microsoft doesn't care.
That's in reference to unauthorized Memory Units, as in Action Replays and other illicit shit.
Adding in a laptop drive is impossible for the Xbox to detect because A) It's the same brand and model of HDDs as the ones the 360 normally uses, B) It's using the same firmware as a real 360 drive and C) It is formatted on the Xbox itself. I know 3 people who added their own 250 gig drives to their 360s and have had them for over a year, myself included, and it works great. If anything, MS should support it because I've installed so many games and bought so many Rock Band songs and Arcade games that they've probably made $100+ on me alone.
" Well, at least it includes some internal memory, unlike the old arcade. For more casual gamers, I can kind of understand why this might be a good idea. "
For someone like me, who doesn't have a 360 and plays most of his games on a PS3, this is definitely appealing if I want to pick up exclusives. Plus if I decide to go mainly 360 or something I can easily upgrade the hard drive. "
That's a really good point, and I agree. The only worry is that those exclusive games might add up.
Well it is better than the regular arcade now but if the console doesn't have built in wi fi or hdmi then people should just get the regular instead of spending money down the road to upgrade.
Yeah, as MS move into the family market you dont have to be a genius to work out that somethink like this was in the making. Typical family usage will save a few games and perhaps buy 1-2 arcade classics that they used to play as kids. 4GB will be plenty to do this.
" Well, at least it includes some internal memory, unlike the old arcade. For more casual gamers, I can kind of understand why this might be a good idea. "
The previous Arcade model (the one with the Jasper chipset) has 512MB of internal storage.
" If I had any electronic device that had died 10 times so that I was on my 11th - I would stop using/buying products from that company. You Americans seem to let Microsoft off with murder. Imagine if you bought a washing machine/TV/stereo/lamp/dvd player/anything that reguires electrcity and it died 10 times - you would complain your ass off and not buy them anymore. Still I am baffled at how you let Microsoft just bend you over and have its way with you. If my current 360 dies then I am done, it will be my third and that is that. "
If I was on my 11th 360 and the first ten were replaced at no charge, then I could see sticking with it. I mean, you're acting like he bought every one of those 11 360's.
I'm gonna buy a new 360 when the Kinect bundles come out and, hopefully, they'll have a bigger HDD by then because my current 360 has a 250GB HDD and it's nearly full.
This edit will also create new pages on Giant Bomb for:
Beware, you are proposing to add brand new pages to the wiki along
with your edits. Make sure this is what you intended. This will likely
increase the time it takes for your changes to go live.
Comment and Save
Until you earn 1000 points all your submissions need to be vetted by other
Giant Bomb users. This process takes no more than a few hours and we'll
send you an email once approved.
Log in to comment