Ludacris should be ashamed!

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#1  Edited By TwoOneFive

come on now, thats all flat out racist. if any white guy wrote stuff like that in favor of a white candidate and said things like that about obama he'd be crucified by the media. it's things like this that tell me this country world, this country probably are not ready for a black president. i think he is the better choice over mccain, even though i support Ron Paul, but dude has minimal experience, no accomplishments (seriously, name one single Obama accomplishment right now! dont you dare say getting elected to senate or getting more votes than clinton)
im glad Obamas people had this to say: 


i wouldn't be surprised if Obama tells him it was wrong thens says "im just messin with you man :)" . im not being childish because of that statement, its a reference to how he has dealt with a similar situation recently. 
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Asshole :P

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#3  Edited By Evilross

Obama is a politically correct empty suit.

Its a product of the times, things are only going to get worse as we move further away from individualism, creativity, and personal freedom and choice, and move closer to a collective thought based society.




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#4  Edited By Zoidy

Well he's not holding anything back I guess, but this will probably get all sorts of media attention and start a controversy and yadda yadda.

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yeah it's ridiculous.

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#6  Edited By TwoOneFive
Evilross said:
"Obama is a politically correct empty suit.

Its a product of the times, things are only going to get worse as we move further away from individualism, creativity, and personal freedom and choice, and move closer to a collective thought based society.




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yeah i agree. goddamn i really wished Ron Paul was goin to be president.
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#7  Edited By sculsoldi3r

Wow, what a asshole.

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Jeff Gerstmann for president. he's black/white/yellow/red/brown

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#9  Edited By Evilross
TwoOneFive said:
"Evilross said:
"Obama is a politically correct empty suit.

Its a product of the times, things are only going to get worse as we move further away from individualism, creativity, and personal freedom and choice, and move closer to a collective thought based society.




"
yeah i agree. goddamn i really wished Ron Paul was goin to be president."
Its funny when you see all these "anti-government" protesters lapping up the spoonfed socialist dogma, while at the same time claiming the rights of a democracy to protest and stigmatize everything that they do not find in agreement with their own value system.
Democracy is a failed system, and it has been since its inception. Democracy to be relevent must rely on the citizens to be intellegent, informed, and intrested in the government enough to cast a vote.
Democracy as a system is a failure because the public is easily coerced into following a leader, charisma and charm outweigh good judgement in most people.
Democracy assumes that the general population is intellegent and well informed. This could not be farther from the truth in present day America.
The nation was founded as a Republic, and with good reason. If you ever doubt the wisdom of the founding fathers, just look at the weak pile of crap the United States has become today by abandoning its Republic free choice roots, and melding into a wold wide accepted 2 party "democracy" system.
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#10  Edited By serbsta

Wow, thats a bit too far.

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#11  Edited By FuzzYLemoN

Jesus... "Paint the white house black"? Too far.

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Individual workers ftw.
On topic: Oh, Luda! *laugh* * pause* *credits*

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#13  Edited By EndlessMike

so? just a song
get over it

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#14  Edited By Bennyishere

I like Ludacris.

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#15  Edited By efrucht

It's fine, really. Nobody takes this man seriously. His career is a joke. His music is a joke. Everything about him is one big punch-line.
Laugh it off, Ludicrous is nothing but a thug and a clown that got too much attention. Life goes on, hopefully.

I just hope that a black president will give the black community what they need to stop playing the victim and start becoming productive citizens (in general).
As a whole, the African-American community lags far behind even the newly arrived Spanish communities.... Go figure.
Anything that rejuvenates them and gives them the strength to succeed is a winner in my book. Go Obama!

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#16  Edited By atejas

correct me if im wrong(i dont listen to rap) but this guy is one of those mainstream sellouts.

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#17  Edited By justinnotjason
Evilross said:
"TwoOneFive said:

Its funny when you see all these "anti-government" protesters lapping up the spoonfed socialist dogma, while at the same time claiming the rights of a democracy to protest and stigmatize everything that they do not find in agreement with their own value system.
Democracy is a failed system, and it has been since its inception. Democracy to be relevent must rely on the citizens to be intellegent, informed, and intrested in the government enough to cast a vote.
Democracy as a system is a failure because the public is easily coerced into following a leader, charisma and charm outweigh good judgement in most people.
Democracy assumes that the general population is intellegent and well informed. This could not be farther from the truth in present day America.
The nation was founded as a Republic, and with good reason. If you ever doubt the wisdom of the founding fathers, just look at the weak pile of crap the United States has become today by abandoning its Republic free choice roots, and melding into a wold wide accepted 2 party "democracy" system.

" Eh what it comes down to honestly is that the system looks great on paper but gets screwed over in implementation. 

I mean an Electoral College seems like a great idea on paper. It's a great way to ensure that the people don't vote in some "yahoo" that lives under a rock, but honestly doesn't that sort of undermine the thought behind a democracy. The person the people want. And on top of that the Electoral college has alot of power to be abused. They can legally decide that the states majority vote doesn't matter and vote for whom ever they want. So while all of one state may Vote for Ron Paul, the Electoral college can put their vote in for Obama. It seems good but gets lost in transition.

However, people are ignorant of how stupid they really are; they will vote in someone who looks charismatic but doesn't necessarily have any political sense. Take a look at the current candidates for president. I'm not satisfied with either, but of the two of them I dislike Obama the most. The guy has very little experience, and personally I just have a problem with a presidential candidate who won't support America or it's troops. Whether you're for or against the war, you damn sure better support the troops. The guy doesn't want to wear an American flag pin, or have anything to do with the American flag, he won't put his hand over his heart for the national anthem, and he just recently "snubbed" the troops he was "visiting" in Afghanistan. I'm not ignorant enough to say "omg! his name is Hussein" cause honestly a man's name doesn't determine how well he does his job, but combine what I just said with the things I didn't say, and others I'm probably not aware of, and this guy just doesn't seem like he should be running. Now you may say, "what an idiot just cause he doesn't want to do those things doesn't make him anti-patriotic" but honestly, in my eyes, it does. And if you've heard anything his wife has had to say about the country, well it's just ridiculous.


I could sit and McCain bash too, but honestly I was venting about Obama :P. Don't let me make you think I'm a Far Right Conservative (not that there's anything wrong with that per say), I just hate everyone equally lol. I'm more in the political party of crotchety young men. lol
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JustinNotJason said:
However, people are ignorant of how stupid they really are; they will vote in someone who looks charismatic but doesn't necessarily have any political sense. Take a look at the current candidates for president. I'm not satisfied with either, but of the two of them I dislike Obama the most. The guy has very little experience, and personally I just have a problem with a presidential candidate who won't support America or it's troops. Whether you're for or against the war, you damn sure better support the troops. The guy doesn't want to wear an American flag pin, or have anything to do with the American flag, he won't put his hand over his heart for the national anthem, and he just recently "snubbed" the troops he was "visiting" in Afghanistan. I'm not ignorant enough to say "omg! his name is Hussein" cause honestly a man's name doesn't determine how well he does his job, but combine what I just said with the things I didn't say, and others I'm probably not aware of, and this guy just doesn't seem like he should be running. Now you may say, "what an idiot just cause he doesn't want to do those things doesn't make him anti-patriotic" but honestly, in my eyes, it does. And if you've heard anything his wife has had to say about the country, well it's just ridiculous.

Watch less mainstream news.  It's bad for your critical thinking.  It's troubling that you've accepted these things as true when they are all talking points circulated by right-wing, McCain-endorsing sources.  What makes you so convinced Obama doesn't support the troops?  I think the guy who wants to deploy American soldiers into harm's way only for legitimate wars - which the Iraq war was not - cares more about the troops.  I think Barack Obama, by supporting a G.I bill giving more benefits and educational opportunities to war veterans, cares more about the troops than John McCain who didn't want to be "too generous", and opposed the bill.

Many of the critics of Obama's lack of flag-pin do not in fact wear flag-pins.  Obama has said himself: sometimes he wears one, sometimes he does not.  How a tiny shard of plastic made in China is the measure of patriotism in your country is very sad.  Question: do YOU wear a flag pin twenty-four-seven?  One picture of Obama without his hand over his heart is NOT overwhelming evidence.

And as regards the "snubbing of the troops", that is straight out of a McCain ad.  One which used footage of Obama visiting the troops only a matter of days earlier.

Most criticisms I hear of Obama are formulated through hearsay and McCain press conferences.  Most of which are easily debunked through independent sources and context - context being something rumours show little care for.  There ARE many valid criticisms for Obama, by the way, but none of these is one of them.
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#19  Edited By R3Vo

"paint the White House black and I'm sure that's got 'em terrified"  Excuse me?  Really?  Is that honestly acceptable?

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I just love how some of my female friends tell me they want to vote for him just because he is "cute". This is the American Idol election my friends. Substance, policy, ideals, and background play no part in politics today. Sometimes I wish there was a requirement on voting, and people who actually followed our government and had a clue was was actually going on could vote. Doesn't matter what party but as long as they are educated about what really is going on.

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#21  Edited By citizenkane

It's a rap song.  Get over it.

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#22  Edited By blu_magnet

Always liked his music but didnt like him as a person

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#23  Edited By irishjohn
TwoOneFive said:
"goddamn i really wished Ron Paul was goin to be president."
Are you high?

CitizenKane said:
"It's a rap song.  Get over it."
Thank you.

The only bad things are calling Clinton a b***h and saying McCain should be in a wheelchair.  Otherwise, he doesn't say anything bad.
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I am notCitizenKane said:

"It's a rap song.  Get over it."
See, I don't think you can just say that. I'm not one head over heels in love with McCain. But if someone makes a work like he did then you should expect to have it judged. Plus I am sure if it were the other way around you would have the race card being thrown all over the place.
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#25  Edited By newtruegunner

im english so i dont care

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#26  Edited By joshrocks2245

I don't really like Ludacris.
That song is horrible by the way, i just listened to it and it's garbage.
The only thing i agree with him on that song is the part about George Bush.

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#27  Edited By citizenkane
Irishjohn said:
"TwoOneFive said:
"goddamn i really wished Ron Paul was goin to be president."
Are you high?"

There seems to be a few Ron Paul supporters around here, which should be expected from a forum with a lot of teenagers and college students.
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#28  Edited By MikPick

I don't really see what the problem is. It's only a song.

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"I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character."
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    -Martin Luther King, Jr.

amazing how this statement has had a reversal since he spoke it...
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#30  Edited By justinnotjason
Mardarkin said:
"JustinNotJason said:
However, people are ignorant of how stupid they really are; they will vote in someone who looks charismatic but doesn't necessarily have any political sense. Take a look at the current candidates for president. I'm not satisfied with either, but of the two of them I dislike Obama the most. The guy has very little experience, and personally I just have a problem with a presidential candidate who won't support America or it's troops. Whether you're for or against the war, you damn sure better support the troops. The guy doesn't want to wear an American flag pin, or have anything to do with the American flag, he won't put his hand over his heart for the national anthem, and he just recently "snubbed" the troops he was "visiting" in Afghanistan. I'm not ignorant enough to say "omg! his name is Hussein" cause honestly a man's name doesn't determine how well he does his job, but combine what I just said with the things I didn't say, and others I'm probably not aware of, and this guy just doesn't seem like he should be running. Now you may say, "what an idiot just cause he doesn't want to do those things doesn't make him anti-patriotic" but honestly, in my eyes, it does. And if you've heard anything his wife has had to say about the country, well it's just ridiculous.

Watch less mainstream news.  It's bad for your critical thinking.  It's troubling that you've accepted these things as true when they are all talking points circulated by right-wing, McCain-endorsing sources.  What makes you so convinced Obama doesn't support the troops?  I think the guy who wants to deploy American soldiers into harm's way only for legitimate wars - which the Iraq war was not - cares more about the troops.  I think Barack Obama, by supporting a G.I bill giving more benefits and educational opportunities to war veterans, cares more about the troops than John McCain who didn't want to be "too generous", and opposed the bill.

Many of the critics of Obama's lack of flag-pin do not in fact wear flag-pins.  Obama has said himself: sometimes he wears one, sometimes he does not.  How a tiny shard of plastic made in China is the measure of patriotism in your country is very sad.  Question: do YOU wear a flag pin twenty-four-seven?  One picture of Obama without his hand over his heart is NOT overwhelming evidence.

And as regards the "snubbing of the troops", that is straight out of a McCain ad.  One which used footage of Obama visiting the troops only a matter of days earlier.

Most criticisms I hear of Obama are formulated through hearsay and McCain press conferences.  Most of which are easily debunked through independent sources and context - context being something rumours show little care for.  There ARE many valid criticisms for Obama, by the way, but none of these is one of them.
"
Actually you'd be incorrect, I get alot of my news from a variety of different sources, and to label me as right wing would be incorrect. I watch very little "main stream" news. I think a guy who's over in afghanistan to visit troops but doesn't have the decency to shake one of their hands or talk to any of them is slightly distressing; however upon further inspection it does appear to be "heresay". Not saying it did or didn't happen but there's not evidence for or against it so I'll just give him the benefit of the doubt.  As far as as Obama not supporting the troops though I don't believe either candidate does enough, but I only vented about Obama.

As for the flag pin, I saw him say in an interview state he wouldn't wear the flag pin so that may not seem big like I said but I think it symbolizes more personally. No I don't wear a flag pin but then again I'm not an elected official that's supposed to symbolize the foundation of our country, nor am I trying to be the leader of this country.



As for me being right wing I would disagree, like I said I hate everyone equal. And I'm not above admitting my own ignorance to everything that happens on the campaign trail. I know there are many valid Obama criticisms, as there are for McCain. The biggest problem is you can never find someone in the middle to report criticisms on both sides, usually criticisms are derived from someone who supports one or the other. That's why I try to interpret things for myself, but like I said I'm not arrogant enough to say I know everything about whats going on. I suppose you could say I'm nitpicking little things, and to a certain extent you'd be right. I'd go more into his policies etc, but whatever.

Ah opinions

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Not voting for Obama...so fuck you Luda.  Most stupid rap I've ever heard...so lacking in intelligence.  I find it sad that he doesn't acknowledge that it is the white vote and the white vote only that Obama will get into office on.  The "majority" as he calls it are whites, and Obama is doing well now.  If anything, this will hurt Obama.  The average white guy in America likes Obama because he isn't inflammatory and racist.  If some blacks are going to treat this election like its a race war and vote for Obama just because he's half-black...then you will see whites vote McCain in droves. 

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#32  Edited By Mardarkin
JustinNotJason said:
Actually you'd be incorrect, I get alot of my news from a variety of different sources, and to label me as right wing would be incorrect. I watch very little "main stream" news. I think a guy who's over in afghanistan to visit troops but doesn't have the decency to shake one of their hands or talk to any of them is slightly distressing; however upon further inspection it does appear to be "heresay". Not saying it did or didn't happen but there's not evidence for or against it so I'll just give him the benefit of the doubt.  As far as as Obama not supporting the troops though I don't believe either candidate does enough, but I only vented about Obama.

As for the flag pin, I saw him say in an interview state he wouldn't wear the flag pin so that may not seem big like I said but I think it symbolizes more personally. No I don't wear a flag pin but then again I'm not an elected official that's supposed to symbolize the foundation of our country, nor am I trying to be the leader of this country.



As for me being right wing I would disagree, like I said I hate everyone equal. And I'm not above admitting my own ignorance to everything that happens on the campaign trail. I know there are many valid Obama criticisms, as there are for McCain. The biggest problem is you can never find someone in the middle to report criticisms on both sides, usually criticisms are derived from someone who supports one or the other. That's why I try to interpret things for myself, but like I said I'm not arrogant enough to say I know everything about whats going on. I suppose you could say I'm nitpicking little things, and to a certain extent you'd be right. I'd go more into his policies etc, but whatever.

I never suggested you yourself were right-wing, but that most of your ventings came directly from sources with questionable or right-wing motivations.  Like I said: Obama visited troops.  He did so in Kuwait, in Iraq, and the only case of him not visting troops during his tour was in Afghanistan.  Reportedly because the Pentagon told Obama it would be seen as "political", and was therefore not allowed.  It is the McCain camp that released the idea that Obama 'snubbed the troops'.  I was merely expressing regret that you bought it.

Obama's thoughts, as far as I can recall, was that the flag pin is an example of how America and its political institutions have been using patriotism as a bludgeon.  Surely there are far better measures of patriotism than whether or not you wear a tiny flag on your chest.  It's hardly the pressing issue considering America's ongoing wars, economic troubles etc.

I'm a Brit, but I've been following this election cycle since the very start of the primaries.  As a political junkie, I've been following it closely.  So sorry to call you out, but when I see things I know as verifiably biased or untrue, I am overcome with the need to respond, y'know.  :)
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#33  Edited By FengShuiGod
Evilross said:
"TwoOneFive said:
"Evilross said:
"Obama is a politically correct empty suit.

Its a product of the times, things are only going to get worse as we move further away from individualism, creativity, and personal freedom and choice, and move closer to a collective thought based society.




"
yeah i agree. goddamn i really wished Ron Paul was goin to be president."
Its funny when you see all these "anti-government" protesters lapping up the spoonfed socialist dogma, while at the same time claiming the rights of a democracy to protest and stigmatize everything that they do not find in agreement with their own value system.
Democracy is a failed system, and it has been since its inception. Democracy to be relevent must rely on the citizens to be intellegent, informed, and intrested in the government enough to cast a vote.
Democracy as a system is a failure because the public is easily coerced into following a leader, charisma and charm outweigh good judgement in most people.
Democracy assumes that the general population is intellegent and well informed. This could not be farther from the truth in present day America.
The nation was founded as a Republic, and with good reason. If you ever doubt the wisdom of the founding fathers, just look at the weak pile of crap the United States has become today by abandoning its Republic free choice roots, and melding into a wold wide accepted 2 party "democracy" system.
"
This.
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#34  Edited By R3Vo
Evilross said:
"TwoOneFive said:
"Evilross said:
"Obama is a politically correct empty suit.

Its a product of the times, things are only going to get worse as we move further away from individualism, creativity, and personal freedom and choice, and move closer to a collective thought based society.




"
yeah i agree. goddamn i really wished Ron Paul was goin to be president."
Its funny when you see all these "anti-government" protesters lapping up the spoonfed socialist dogma, while at the same time claiming the rights of a democracy to protest and stigmatize everything that they do not find in agreement with their own value system.
Democracy is a failed system, and it has been since its inception. Democracy to be relevent must rely on the citizens to be intellegent, informed, and intrested in the government enough to cast a vote.
Democracy as a system is a failure because the public is easily coerced into following a leader, charisma and charm outweigh good judgement in most people.
Democracy assumes that the general population is intellegent and well informed. This could not be farther from the truth in present day America.
The nation was founded as a Republic, and with good reason. If you ever doubt the wisdom of the founding fathers, just look at the weak pile of crap the United States has become today by abandoning its Republic free choice roots, and melding into a wold wide accepted 2 party "democracy" system.
"
INTELLIGENCE ON MY INTERWEBZ??!
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#35  Edited By TwoOneFive
Mardarkin said:
"JustinNotJason said:
However, people are ignorant of how stupid they really are; they will vote in someone who looks charismatic but doesn't necessarily have any political sense. Take a look at the current candidates for president. I'm not satisfied with either, but of the two of them I dislike Obama the most. The guy has very little experience, and personally I just have a problem with a presidential candidate who won't support America or it's troops. Whether you're for or against the war, you damn sure better support the troops. The guy doesn't want to wear an American flag pin, or have anything to do with the American flag, he won't put his hand over his heart for the national anthem, and he just recently "snubbed" the troops he was "visiting" in Afghanistan. I'm not ignorant enough to say "omg! his name is Hussein" cause honestly a man's name doesn't determine how well he does his job, but combine what I just said with the things I didn't say, and others I'm probably not aware of, and this guy just doesn't seem like he should be running. Now you may say, "what an idiot just cause he doesn't want to do those things doesn't make him anti-patriotic" but honestly, in my eyes, it does. And if you've heard anything his wife has had to say about the country, well it's just ridiculous.

Watch less mainstream news.  It's bad for your critical thinking.  It's troubling that you've accepted these things as true when they are all talking points circulated by right-wing, McCain-endorsing sources.  What makes you so convinced Obama doesn't support the troops?  I think the guy who wants to deploy American soldiers into harm's way only for legitimate wars - which the Iraq war was not - cares more about the troops.  I think Barack Obama, by supporting a G.I bill giving more benefits and educational opportunities to war veterans, cares more about the troops than John McCain who didn't want to be "too generous", and opposed the bill.

Many of the critics of Obama's lack of flag-pin do not in fact wear flag-pins.  Obama has said himself: sometimes he wears one, sometimes he does not.  How a tiny shard of plastic made in China is the measure of patriotism in your country is very sad.  Question: do YOU wear a flag pin twenty-four-seven?  One picture of Obama without his hand over his heart is NOT overwhelming evidence.

And as regards the "snubbing of the troops", that is straight out of a McCain ad.  One which used footage of Obama visiting the troops only a matter of days earlier.

Most criticisms I hear of Obama are formulated through hearsay and McCain press conferences.  Most of which are easily debunked through independent sources and context - context being something rumours show little care for.  There ARE many valid criticisms for Obama, by the way, but none of these is one of them.
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if obama, or any other candidate, really supported the troops, they'd do them all a favor and bring them home from all the places around the world that they really do not need to be in at all.  why is it that more active duty military gave donations to Ron Paul than any other candidate combined (rep or dem)? 
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Well, it's nothing offensive and racist about it, I'm pretty sure that many politicians had something to say derogatory about Barack Obama. I'm also a black male and I'm supporting Barack Obama strongly, I'm going to the polls this November and casting my vote for "CHANGE." If Hilary Clinton was to win the Democratic nomination (I'll vote for her), me and those Republicans don't mix.

PS... It's just a short rap song with some political bashing throughout it.