Wheres the sea town feeling?This seems more like a political game to me....
BioShock Infinite
Game » consists of 20 releases. Released Mar 26, 2013
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The third game in the BioShock series leaves the bottom of the sea behind for an entirely new setting - the floating city of Columbia, circa 1912. Come to retrieve a girl named Elizabeth, ex-detective Booker DeWitt finds more in store for him there than he could ever imagine.
What kind of fucking game is this?
It's not a fucking game. A fucking game is something like Rapelay. Bioshock Infinite will be a regular game.
" @PK_Koopa said:" @Atomasist said:"" @blazerx9x said:"" @Blair said:"" @kidman said:"" It's a Video Game. ""
" @owl_of_minerva said:Yep. I myself got as far as buying Atlas Shrugged for cheap in an airport bookstore, a year or so post bioshock but haven't touched a page. Still kinda funny to see people rant or rave about objectivism like it's the newest hottest political belief for nerds. I think BIoshock was the only reason Ron Paul had the internet popularity he did." And Bioshock wasn't originally political? Know your references: Ayn Rand's objectivism... "This.
What was creepy for me was watching the rise of Ayn Rand's objectivism in political discourse, after the release of Bioshock. "
" @CaptainObvious said:Tighten up those graphics, OP!Yeah, shouldn't you be editing graphics for level three? "" Don't you 'work' at EA? "
" @wonderhare said:" @XII_Sniper said:"" @PK_Koopa said:"" @Atomasist said:"" @blazerx9x said:"" @Blair said:"" @kidman said:"" It's a Video Game. ""
" @Goly said:" @wonderhare said:"" @XII_Sniper said:"" @PK_Koopa said:"" @Atomasist said:"" @blazerx9x said:"" @Blair said:"" @kidman said:"" It's a Video Game. ""
" @XII_Sniper: If people actually started to get into objectivism after playing Bioshock, I'd have to wonder if they were playing the same game. It's as close to a critique of unregulated capitalism, or objectivism, as gaming has ever reached. That said, Ayn Rand has been one of the most popular "philosophers" in the US for a while so clearly she taps into something people believe in already, namely that their social system is the best one possible... D:. "Well Rapture is just a giant example of how that kind of society could fail, but at the same time, Andrew Ryan isn't portrayed as completely evil and corrupt, merely insanely paranoid. Also devs cited Atlas Shugged as a major influence over the story.
Whether it's a warning tale or not, the fact is I believe devs DID cite Rand, and people got pretty into Bioshock at the time, so I'm not surprised some picked up her stuff after. Once again, I've read like... a page of her writings, so I have little idea about what objectivism is, really other than it being kinda libertarian, despite most libs I know hate her hahah.
But I don't think it's a critique on unregulated capitalism so much as.. unregulated science. There's a lot of talk in that game of Rapture taking moral issues out of scientific research, and of course the entire conflict is started by a scientific discovery.
Not to get too involved as it's been about 3 years since I last played Bioshock, but I got the feeling from that game is that people like Andrew Ryan, Sander Cohen etc can never reach their goals because of inherently human flaws and the problem was with the citizens of Rapture, not to much the system. It was jealousy, greed and paranoia which brought the end of Rapture, not the unregulated capitalism that Ryan allowed. Like I say, it's been a while.
I think what it comes down to is that explicit critiques of capitalism are risky, especially in a mass-market medium like videogames, so it has been attacked under the codeword "objectivism". The most objectivist society in the Western world is the United States, and it is clearly post-war Americana the game is inspired by...
It's a video game. That will probably have some sort of underlying philosophical message. Probably something to do with American exceptionalism, if the teaser is any indication.
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