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    Demon's Souls

    Game » consists of 8 releases. Released Oct 06, 2009

    Demon's Souls is an action-RPG developed by From Software and released in 2009. It quickly became popular within hardcore circles for its relentlessly steep difficulty level, deep combat system, and unique multiplayer integration.

    Why the GiantBomb hate?

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    Korosuzo

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    #1  Edited By Korosuzo

    I can understand some people not thinking this type of RPG is their cup of tea but to totally dismiss the title in the PS3 game of the year awards shows that nobody really gave it a chance.  Please tell me you guys at least made it past 1-1, 1-2 and another boss before you decided it was bad or too tough to swallow b/c this game is easily the best game of the year on PS3 and tied or second to Dragon Age as the best RPG of the year by far.  What does everyone else think?

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    #2  Edited By Milkman

    Jesus Christ...enough with the Demon's Souls. They don't like it. I think it's time to get over it.

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    #3  Edited By InfiniteGeass

    People have opinions. You may not agree with them. Get over it. If it makes you feel any better I think the game looks pretty interesting even though i haven't even played it yet.

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    #4  Edited By bacongames

    Here's the reason: they're only 4 guys.  When two of them know this is very much not the game they like and one of them is apathetic to it, it doesn't get much attention.
     
    Simply speaking they had no obligation to give it a chance and yes it's a shame that it happened because it frankly looks like a game I really want to play but yeah.  Makes sense to me why they "dismissed" that game which they didn't really.

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    #5  Edited By EpicSteve

    Games are supposed to be fun. I get the whole appeal of making things hard to further reward the player, but Demon's Souls is fucked up. That game does too much to alienate people. That's for people that have a high tolerance for those types of games, or those who hate themselves.

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    #6  Edited By Whisperkill

    Yeah Demon's Souls just isn't fun...

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    #7  Edited By VanderSEXXX
    @Korosuzo: while i may agree with you on that I guess its their opinion. I mean even I loved the game and to me its the best PS3 game this year but this is their site and what they thought was better will be posted instead of what we liked I guess.
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    #8  Edited By Korosuzo

    Yeah I won't pretend to have loved it initially at all and I agree everyone has their own opinion.  Not yelling at them just was curious there was nobody that took an interest in it at ALL.  That is all.  There is nothing for me to "get over" as I never brought this subject up before just was curious.

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    #9  Edited By rjayb89

    It ain't their thing.  I'm sure you don't play games that don't interest you.  That is the case here.

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    #10  Edited By Korosuzo

    I recently got into this website and their quick looks have given me better inside looks at games then any other site.  It just seems weird they have given chances to so many other weird or tough games but not even reviewed Demon's Souls. Rogue Warrior is more deserving of a review?  I guess I shouldn't have brought it up some people are touchy about it.

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    #11  Edited By Turambar
    @Korosuzo: You might want to actually figure out their opinions regarding the game, more specifically Vinny and Dave liking it quite a bit.  Ryan dislikes it because he dislikes From Software and Jeff dislikes it because it doesn't fit his play style.  Plenty of chances have been given by those in the GB office.  And as someone who loves the game quite a bit, even I wouldn't give it consideration for the PS3 title in the face of some of the competition.
     
    @Milkman: You could also just ignore these threads instead of posting an annoyed response in every single one, no?
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    #12  Edited By beargirl1
    @InfiniteGeass said:
    " People have opinions ... Get over it. 
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    #13  Edited By bacongames
    @EpicSteve said:
    " Games are supposed to be fun. I get the whole appeal of making things hard to further reward the player, but Demon's Souls is fucked up. That game does too much to alienate people. That's for people that have a high tolerance for those types of games, or those who hate themselves. "
    Games are not just supposed to be fun because "fun" can be kiddy to some and serious to others.  Entertaining is a much better term and lets face it, a lot of people find satisfaction in difficult games, especially one as fair as Demon's Souls.  Very much a hard game yes, but fair and a good game built beneath that difficulty.
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    #14  Edited By Korosuzo
    @Turambar:  I appreciate the response; I didn't realize that.  We can get off the subject I was just upset without seeing Demon's Souls given a fair shake.
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    #15  Edited By Jayzilla

    if you ran a gaming site and didnt nominate a game i thought should win hands down then i could say the same thing to you. opinions are opinions man.

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    #16  Edited By CL60
    @Whisperkill said:
    " Yeah Demon's Souls just isn't fun... "
    Yes it is, you probably have not even played it, right?
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    #17  Edited By Turambar
    @EpicSteve said:

    " Games are supposed to be fun. I get the whole appeal of making things hard to further reward the player, but Demon's Souls is fucked up. That game does too much to alienate people. That's for people that have a high tolerance for those types of games, or those who hate themselves. "

    "MW2 is a FPS, and as someone who dislikes FPSes, it does too much to alienate me.  They should really work on that or else it's not fun."  Saying DS is somehow not fun because people fall outside of the scope of the target audience is just as dumb as that first statement.  You also might want to rethink the idea that people are somehow "tolerating" the game.  There's no tolerating going on because there is nothing negative outside of the pretty bad character faces and the framerate for us to tolerate.  We like it without the need for any masochistic impulses.  
     
    Me playing an FPS?  Now that's going to require some tolerance.
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    #18  Edited By Yummylee

    Sadly, its just not their type of game.
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    #19  Edited By Turambar
    @Whisperkill said:
    " Yeah Demon's Souls just isn't fun... "
    Yeah, Futurama just isn't a funny show.  You're probably thinking through ten different reasons why that statement is wrong.  Your comment reads a bit like that.
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    #20  Edited By bonbolapti

    I love Demon's Souls, But that's the kind of game I play for myself. 
    I would be much happier with it being MY game of the year than anyone elses.

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    #21  Edited By mordukai
    @Whisperkill said:
    " Yeah Demon's Souls just isn't fun... "
    Speak for yourself. Even though it's a tough unforgiving game I have never played a game that rewards the player so much for doing well. I'm having the time of my life.  
    Did you even played the game? If you did then how far into the game did you get?
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    #22  Edited By ryanwho

    They're not interested. See, the conflict you're having is normally you just put a cartoonish  stereotype on people on the net who dismiss something you like, but in this case you would be characterizing the GB crew, people you know and like. And you don't know what to do. And just walking away, leaving it alone, never even occurred to you.

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    #23  Edited By carlthenimrod

    It's the same reason they don't play sport games. You don't force yourself to play games you have no interest in.

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    #24  Edited By RsistncE

    I said it before and I'll say it again...Demon's Souls is poo.

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    #25  Edited By NTM

    I don't think they spent enough time going through it, and felt a little short on time. Seeing as the game is as challenging as it is, turned them away for some more quality time on games that required a lot less devotion. I think they all liked it in some sort of way, but it's underlying difficulty just pushed them away.  
     
    I'm not puttng down Demon Souls in any possible way. I really don't believe Uncharted 2 would make my top game of the year (being a little dissapointing), but if you saw Gamespot giving Demon souls game of the year, I do think they were just trying to make it so Uncharted 2 didn't win every award on every site or magazine.

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    #26  Edited By crystalskull2

    Its just an opinion.

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    #27  Edited By asurastrike

    I love Demon's Souls, but I can understand if it's not a persons cup of tea.

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    #28  Edited By liquidsol

    To me, the Giantbomb awards came down to simply what games they enjoyed playing, not necessarily what games are the best, or what games deserve to win. Watch Drew's reason for giving "Borderlands" his personal Game of the Year, if you don't believe me.
     
    Is there anything wrong with that?  Not really, different gaming site staffs have different preferences.  It is professional?  I'm not one to say.  I agree with you on Demon's Souls, it's a wonderful game, it's just not their cup of tea.   
     
    We'd be fools to believe that there is not some sort of bias on every single gaming site, including this one.  That's the beauty of having lots of site choices, you get to take in lots of different opinions.  GameSpot awarded Demon's Souls both PS3 game of the year and overall game of the year.  Again, a site with different opinions, and nothing wrong with that. 
     
    It's also pointless to try to convince someone a game is great, if they really don't like it, even if it's a well crafted game.  Different people have different taste.  I, for one, can't stand Modern Warfare 2, and no one will convince me otherwise.  The same goes for me trying to convince someone who doesn't like Demon's Souls, that it's game of the year.

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    #29  Edited By Whisperkill
    @Turambar said:

    " @Whisperkill said:

    " Yeah Demon's Souls just isn't fun... "
    Yeah, Futurama just isn't a funny show.  You're probably thinking through ten different reasons why that statement is wrong.  Your comment reads a bit like that. "
    Okay, I did not find Demon's Souls fun... Happy Now.  And yes I played the game long enough to make a judgment of it.
     
    Jesus Christ people get so upset over this thing... its just a fucking video game.
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    #30  Edited By buzz_killington

    Demon's Souls is a prime example for shawcasing why games are mostly developed outside Japan these days.

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    #31  Edited By MeierTheRed
    @Whisperkill said:
    " @Turambar said:

    " @Whisperkill said:

    " Yeah Demon's Souls just isn't fun... "
    Yeah, Futurama just isn't a funny show.  You're probably thinking through ten different reasons why that statement is wrong.  Your comment reads a bit like that. "
    Okay, I did not find Demon's Souls fun... Happy Now.  And yes I played the game long enough to make a judgment of it. Jesus Christ people get so upset over this thing... its just a fucking video game. "
    Same could be said to you, you sound pretty upset over it too.
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    #32  Edited By scratchy

    The hate for this game is actually very understandable considering this is the age of shitty mindless shooters.

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    #33  Edited By Whisperkill
    @pornstorestiffi said:
    " @Whisperkill said:
    " @Turambar said:

    " @Whisperkill said:

    " Yeah Demon's Souls just isn't fun... "
    Yeah, Futurama just isn't a funny show.  You're probably thinking through ten different reasons why that statement is wrong.  Your comment reads a bit like that. "
    Okay, I did not find Demon's Souls fun... Happy Now.  And yes I played the game long enough to make a judgment of it. Jesus Christ people get so upset over this thing... its just a fucking video game. "
    Same could be said to you, you sound pretty upset over it too. "
    I'm far from upset over Demon's Souls. But all the bitching and arguing over it does get me pissed off.
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    #34  Edited By trophyhunter
    @Korosuzo said:
    " I can understand some people not thinking this type of RPG is their cup of tea but to totally dismiss the title in the PS3 game of the year awards shows that nobody really gave it a chance.  Please tell me you guys at least made it past 1-1, 1-2 and another boss before you decided it was bad or too tough to swallow b/c this game is easily the best game of the year on PS3 and tied or second to Dragon Age as the best RPG of the year by far.  What does everyone else think? "
    Yeah I beat demon's souls it's my game of the year.
    But much like the case will be for Heavy Rain people don't get it and say no thank you.
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    #35  Edited By RVonE
    @rjayb89 said:
    "It ain't their thing.  I'm sure you don't play games that don't interest you.  That is the case here. "

    This.
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    #36  Edited By trophyhunter
    @bonbolapti said:
    "

    I love Demon's Souls, But that's the kind of game I play for myself. 
    I would be much happier with it being MY game of the year than anyone elses.

    "
    well to bad because it is my game of the year also 
    and gamespot's game of the year and it won several gametrailers awards
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    #37  Edited By Impossibilium
    @Korosuzo said:
    " I can understand some people not thinking this type of RPG is their cup of tea but to totally dismiss the title in the PS3 game of the year awards shows that nobody really gave it a chance.  Please tell me you guys at least made it past 1-1, 1-2 and another boss before you decided it was bad or too tough to swallow b/c this game is easily the best game of the year on PS3 and tied or second to Dragon Age as the best RPG of the year by far.  What does everyone else think? "
     
    Back when the site began it was explained that Giant Bomb is not a gaming review site like others. It's a gaming review site about games they like to play. If they don't like a game type they won't play it, if they don't feel like reviewing My Little Ponies Adventure in Rainbow Kitten Land they won't do it either. This site is driven by the personalities of the staff and user contributions.
     
    If you want this site to fall in line with every other you'll be disappointed. If you want to see a couple of dudes having a marathon session of a game nobody else is playing then you are in the right place.
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    #38  Edited By Snail

    They approached it the wrong way if you ask me, in an unprofessional way, that's why they really didn't write a review for it. A review should be more than a simple personal opinion, it should rather say if the game is good or not and will it satisfy its target audience. But since they just didn't have the patience to  play the game they thought "The heck with it".
     
    So yeah. The heck with it.

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    #39  Edited By trophyhunter
    @Snail said:
    " They approached it the wrong way if you ask me, in an unprofessional way, that's why they really didn't write a review for it. A review should be more than a simple personal opinion, it should rather say if the game is good or not and will it satisfy its target audience. But since they just didn't have the patience to  play the game they thought "The heck with it".  So yeah. The heck with it. "
    Yes, if they did review it all of us demon's souls fans would be more mad.
    Because it would be a 1 star review
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    #40  Edited By sjschmidt93

    Haven't played it, but I still have intentions to.

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    #41  Edited By Snail
    @trophyhunter: I'm not necessarily saying that.
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    #42  Edited By m_rum

    The point is not "it's their opinion", the point is their unwillingness to even try it out. As far as I know no one besides Vinny even played it. 
     
    It's cool but when you look at what kind of critical acclaim it has achieved it should be taken to consideration when talking about PS3 games of the year. Why to even include it in the category (in GOTY podcast) if they're just gonna laugh at it and dismiss it as being crazy because it's not in their comfort zone?

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    #43  Edited By trophyhunter
    @m_rum said:
    " The point is not "it's their opinion", the point is their unwillingness to even try it out. As far as I know no one besides Vinny even played it.   It's cool but when you look at what kind of critical acclaim it has achieved it should be taken to consideration when talking about PS3 games of the year. Why to even include it in the category (in GOTY podcast) if they're just gonna laugh at it and dismiss it as being crazy because it's not in their comfort zone? "
    Well it has become their running joke, they use to hate on dynasty warriors not they have moved on to demon's souls.
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    stop hating on the TC its a reasonable question. What if they didnt put MW2 on their list, people would have questions. I agree, i think demons souls is a great game, its coop at least deserves mention. and im sad to see it not on any list.

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    #45  Edited By HaniBall
    @scratchy said:
    " The hate for this game is actually very understandable considering this is the age of shitty mindless shooters. "
    Lolz. But unfortunately not entirely untrue.
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    #46  Edited By DarkShaper

    I don't like sports so even if this years Madden is the best Football game ever made I know I won't play it since I don't like football and I don't think people would give me crap for dismissing it because of that. So even if Demon's Souls is a fantastic game (Wouldn't know never played it) I would not expect people who don't like that kind of game to play it before saying that their not interested. 

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    #47  Edited By Turambar
    @Snail:@trophyhunter: You both realize that Vinny and Dave, the two guys playing the game in the office do like it quite a bit, right?  And that if a review came from the GB office, it'd be a pretty decent one? 
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    #48  Edited By Turambar
    @arab_prince: You seem to be at a loss at how GB GOTY nominees are generated.  The entire office has to have had an experience with the game.  I would have had a problem with them not putting MW2 on it because they all played it and enjoyed it.  DS on the other hand, half of them didn't play it and of the other half, only one enjoyed it.  
     
    The giant issue people seem incapable of getting over is this isn't some definitive statement on the best game of the year (as if there is any in the entire gaming press), but the best the GB office can collectively get behind on.
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    #49  Edited By 02sfraser

    well they clearly just don't like it. plenty of people love it and it was the editors GOTY on gamespot. just different people have different opinions

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    #50  Edited By Turambar
    @Whisperkill said:
    " @pornstorestiffi said:
    " @Whisperkill said:
    " @Turambar said:

    " @Whisperkill said:

    " Yeah Demon's Souls just isn't fun... "
    Yeah, Futurama just isn't a funny show.  You're probably thinking through ten different reasons why that statement is wrong.  Your comment reads a bit like that. "
    Okay, I did not find Demon's Souls fun... Happy Now.  And yes I played the game long enough to make a judgment of it. Jesus Christ people get so upset over this thing... its just a fucking video game. "
    Same could be said to you, you sound pretty upset over it too. "
    I'm far from upset over Demon's Souls. But all the bitching and arguing over it does get me pissed off. "
    Well, a pretty faulty one-liner doesn't really do much to improve the situation now does it?

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