I can understand some people not thinking this type of RPG is their cup of tea but to totally dismiss the title in the PS3 game of the year awards shows that nobody really gave it a chance. Please tell me you guys at least made it past 1-1, 1-2 and another boss before you decided it was bad or too tough to swallow b/c this game is easily the best game of the year on PS3 and tied or second to Dragon Age as the best RPG of the year by far. What does everyone else think?
Demon's Souls
Game » consists of 8 releases. Released Oct 06, 2009
Demon's Souls is an action-RPG developed by From Software and released in 2009. It quickly became popular within hardcore circles for its relentlessly steep difficulty level, deep combat system, and unique multiplayer integration.
Why the GiantBomb hate?
People have opinions. You may not agree with them. Get over it. If it makes you feel any better I think the game looks pretty interesting even though i haven't even played it yet.
Here's the reason: they're only 4 guys. When two of them know this is very much not the game they like and one of them is apathetic to it, it doesn't get much attention.
Simply speaking they had no obligation to give it a chance and yes it's a shame that it happened because it frankly looks like a game I really want to play but yeah. Makes sense to me why they "dismissed" that game which they didn't really.
Games are supposed to be fun. I get the whole appeal of making things hard to further reward the player, but Demon's Souls is fucked up. That game does too much to alienate people. That's for people that have a high tolerance for those types of games, or those who hate themselves.
Yeah I won't pretend to have loved it initially at all and I agree everyone has their own opinion. Not yelling at them just was curious there was nobody that took an interest in it at ALL. That is all. There is nothing for me to "get over" as I never brought this subject up before just was curious.
I recently got into this website and their quick looks have given me better inside looks at games then any other site. It just seems weird they have given chances to so many other weird or tough games but not even reviewed Demon's Souls. Rogue Warrior is more deserving of a review? I guess I shouldn't have brought it up some people are touchy about it.
@Milkman: You could also just ignore these threads instead of posting an annoyed response in every single one, no?
" Games are supposed to be fun. I get the whole appeal of making things hard to further reward the player, but Demon's Souls is fucked up. That game does too much to alienate people. That's for people that have a high tolerance for those types of games, or those who hate themselves. "Games are not just supposed to be fun because "fun" can be kiddy to some and serious to others. Entertaining is a much better term and lets face it, a lot of people find satisfaction in difficult games, especially one as fair as Demon's Souls. Very much a hard game yes, but fair and a good game built beneath that difficulty.
"MW2 is a FPS, and as someone who dislikes FPSes, it does too much to alienate me. They should really work on that or else it's not fun." Saying DS is somehow not fun because people fall outside of the scope of the target audience is just as dumb as that first statement. You also might want to rethink the idea that people are somehow "tolerating" the game. There's no tolerating going on because there is nothing negative outside of the pretty bad character faces and the framerate for us to tolerate. We like it without the need for any masochistic impulses." Games are supposed to be fun. I get the whole appeal of making things hard to further reward the player, but Demon's Souls is fucked up. That game does too much to alienate people. That's for people that have a high tolerance for those types of games, or those who hate themselves. "
Me playing an FPS? Now that's going to require some tolerance.
I love Demon's Souls, But that's the kind of game I play for myself.
I would be much happier with it being MY game of the year than anyone elses.
" Yeah Demon's Souls just isn't fun... "Speak for yourself. Even though it's a tough unforgiving game I have never played a game that rewards the player so much for doing well. I'm having the time of my life.
Did you even played the game? If you did then how far into the game did you get?
They're not interested. See, the conflict you're having is normally you just put a cartoonish stereotype on people on the net who dismiss something you like, but in this case you would be characterizing the GB crew, people you know and like. And you don't know what to do. And just walking away, leaving it alone, never even occurred to you.
It's the same reason they don't play sport games. You don't force yourself to play games you have no interest in.
I don't think they spent enough time going through it, and felt a little short on time. Seeing as the game is as challenging as it is, turned them away for some more quality time on games that required a lot less devotion. I think they all liked it in some sort of way, but it's underlying difficulty just pushed them away.
I'm not puttng down Demon Souls in any possible way. I really don't believe Uncharted 2 would make my top game of the year (being a little dissapointing), but if you saw Gamespot giving Demon souls game of the year, I do think they were just trying to make it so Uncharted 2 didn't win every award on every site or magazine.
To me, the Giantbomb awards came down to simply what games they enjoyed playing, not necessarily what games are the best, or what games deserve to win. Watch Drew's reason for giving "Borderlands" his personal Game of the Year, if you don't believe me.
Is there anything wrong with that? Not really, different gaming site staffs have different preferences. It is professional? I'm not one to say. I agree with you on Demon's Souls, it's a wonderful game, it's just not their cup of tea.
We'd be fools to believe that there is not some sort of bias on every single gaming site, including this one. That's the beauty of having lots of site choices, you get to take in lots of different opinions. GameSpot awarded Demon's Souls both PS3 game of the year and overall game of the year. Again, a site with different opinions, and nothing wrong with that.
It's also pointless to try to convince someone a game is great, if they really don't like it, even if it's a well crafted game. Different people have different taste. I, for one, can't stand Modern Warfare 2, and no one will convince me otherwise. The same goes for me trying to convince someone who doesn't like Demon's Souls, that it's game of the year.
Okay, I did not find Demon's Souls fun... Happy Now. And yes I played the game long enough to make a judgment of it." @Whisperkill said:
" Yeah Demon's Souls just isn't fun... "Yeah, Futurama just isn't a funny show. You're probably thinking through ten different reasons why that statement is wrong. Your comment reads a bit like that. "
Jesus Christ people get so upset over this thing... its just a fucking video game.
Demon's Souls is a prime example for shawcasing why games are mostly developed outside Japan these days.
" @Turambar said:Same could be said to you, you sound pretty upset over it too.Okay, I did not find Demon's Souls fun... Happy Now. And yes I played the game long enough to make a judgment of it. Jesus Christ people get so upset over this thing... its just a fucking video game. "" @Whisperkill said:
" Yeah Demon's Souls just isn't fun... "Yeah, Futurama just isn't a funny show. You're probably thinking through ten different reasons why that statement is wrong. Your comment reads a bit like that. "
" @Whisperkill said:I'm far from upset over Demon's Souls. But all the bitching and arguing over it does get me pissed off." @Turambar said:Same could be said to you, you sound pretty upset over it too. "Okay, I did not find Demon's Souls fun... Happy Now. And yes I played the game long enough to make a judgment of it. Jesus Christ people get so upset over this thing... its just a fucking video game. "" @Whisperkill said:
" Yeah Demon's Souls just isn't fun... "Yeah, Futurama just isn't a funny show. You're probably thinking through ten different reasons why that statement is wrong. Your comment reads a bit like that. "
" I can understand some people not thinking this type of RPG is their cup of tea but to totally dismiss the title in the PS3 game of the year awards shows that nobody really gave it a chance. Please tell me you guys at least made it past 1-1, 1-2 and another boss before you decided it was bad or too tough to swallow b/c this game is easily the best game of the year on PS3 and tied or second to Dragon Age as the best RPG of the year by far. What does everyone else think? "Yeah I beat demon's souls it's my game of the year.
But much like the case will be for Heavy Rain people don't get it and say no thank you.
"well to bad because it is my game of the year alsoI love Demon's Souls, But that's the kind of game I play for myself.
"
I would be much happier with it being MY game of the year than anyone elses.
and gamespot's game of the year and it won several gametrailers awards
" I can understand some people not thinking this type of RPG is their cup of tea but to totally dismiss the title in the PS3 game of the year awards shows that nobody really gave it a chance. Please tell me you guys at least made it past 1-1, 1-2 and another boss before you decided it was bad or too tough to swallow b/c this game is easily the best game of the year on PS3 and tied or second to Dragon Age as the best RPG of the year by far. What does everyone else think? "
Back when the site began it was explained that Giant Bomb is not a gaming review site like others. It's a gaming review site about games they like to play. If they don't like a game type they won't play it, if they don't feel like reviewing My Little Ponies Adventure in Rainbow Kitten Land they won't do it either. This site is driven by the personalities of the staff and user contributions.
If you want this site to fall in line with every other you'll be disappointed. If you want to see a couple of dudes having a marathon session of a game nobody else is playing then you are in the right place.
They approached it the wrong way if you ask me, in an unprofessional way, that's why they really didn't write a review for it. A review should be more than a simple personal opinion, it should rather say if the game is good or not and will it satisfy its target audience. But since they just didn't have the patience to play the game they thought "The heck with it".
So yeah. The heck with it.
" They approached it the wrong way if you ask me, in an unprofessional way, that's why they really didn't write a review for it. A review should be more than a simple personal opinion, it should rather say if the game is good or not and will it satisfy its target audience. But since they just didn't have the patience to play the game they thought "The heck with it". So yeah. The heck with it. "Yes, if they did review it all of us demon's souls fans would be more mad.
Because it would be a 1 star review
The point is not "it's their opinion", the point is their unwillingness to even try it out. As far as I know no one besides Vinny even played it.
It's cool but when you look at what kind of critical acclaim it has achieved it should be taken to consideration when talking about PS3 games of the year. Why to even include it in the category (in GOTY podcast) if they're just gonna laugh at it and dismiss it as being crazy because it's not in their comfort zone?
" The point is not "it's their opinion", the point is their unwillingness to even try it out. As far as I know no one besides Vinny even played it. It's cool but when you look at what kind of critical acclaim it has achieved it should be taken to consideration when talking about PS3 games of the year. Why to even include it in the category (in GOTY podcast) if they're just gonna laugh at it and dismiss it as being crazy because it's not in their comfort zone? "Well it has become their running joke, they use to hate on dynasty warriors not they have moved on to demon's souls.
stop hating on the TC its a reasonable question. What if they didnt put MW2 on their list, people would have questions. I agree, i think demons souls is a great game, its coop at least deserves mention. and im sad to see it not on any list.
I don't like sports so even if this years Madden is the best Football game ever made I know I won't play it since I don't like football and I don't think people would give me crap for dismissing it because of that. So even if Demon's Souls is a fantastic game (Wouldn't know never played it) I would not expect people who don't like that kind of game to play it before saying that their not interested.
The giant issue people seem incapable of getting over is this isn't some definitive statement on the best game of the year (as if there is any in the entire gaming press), but the best the GB office can collectively get behind on.
" @pornstorestiffi said:Well, a pretty faulty one-liner doesn't really do much to improve the situation now does it?" @Whisperkill said:I'm far from upset over Demon's Souls. But all the bitching and arguing over it does get me pissed off. "" @Turambar said:Same could be said to you, you sound pretty upset over it too. "Okay, I did not find Demon's Souls fun... Happy Now. And yes I played the game long enough to make a judgment of it. Jesus Christ people get so upset over this thing... its just a fucking video game. "" @Whisperkill said:
" Yeah Demon's Souls just isn't fun... "Yeah, Futurama just isn't a funny show. You're probably thinking through ten different reasons why that statement is wrong. Your comment reads a bit like that. "
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