Happy Dreamcast Day 09/09/09

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#1 Edited by Linkyshinks (9880 posts) -

 
 

 
 
What a great console it was despite it's few flaws, and what a epic failure for SEGA. It's a shame it was the final nail in the coffin for SEGA's console production, I would have loved to seen the spirit of the Dreamcast imbued into all future SEGA consoles. Sometimes I wonder what the industry would be like today if things had worked out differently and SEGA had made better choices.

This is a thread to discuss all aspects of the Dreamcast, your loves and your hates, what games you had, what were your faves etc. Show us your collection if you can, tell us how many Dreamcasts you have gone through etc. Where did it go wrong in your opinion?, will the Dreamcast ever return? 
 

Sega Dreamcast

 
 
CPU 200 MHz Hitachi SH4 RISC
GPU 100 MHz PowerVR2 CLX2
Media: CD, 1.2 GB GD-ROM, DVD (unreleased)
System storage: VMU, Nexus Memory Card
Online service SegaNet, Dreamarena
Units sold 10.6 million
  
 
  
 
 
 Gamespot's coverage of the launch (includes Jeff):
  
   
 

20 Minute Documentary:  
 
The History of the Dreamcast

 
 
 
 

#2 Posted by JJOR64 (19065 posts) -

w00t!  Can't wait to see what GiantBomb does.

#3 Posted by MB (13095 posts) -
@JJOR64 said:
" w00t!  Can't wait to see what GiantBomb does. "
I'm guessing nothing.
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#4 Posted by Tebbit (4485 posts) -

Rest in peace, sweet prince.

#5 Posted by Coltonio7 (3156 posts) -

#6 Posted by JJOR64 (19065 posts) -
@MB said:
" @JJOR64 said:
" w00t!  Can't wait to see what GiantBomb does. "
I'm guessing nothing. "
They said they were doing something.  They mentioned it on the new Bombcast.
#7 Posted by MB (13095 posts) -
@JJOR64: Oh, I don't listen to the Bombcasts until Sunday normally. Nice.
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#8 Edited by Linkyshinks (9880 posts) -

 

@JJOR64


" w00t!  Can't wait to see what GiantBomb does. "

 
I know Ryan and Jeff have some love. I've noticed that Ryan has a minty Samba De Amigo box in his apartment, and his Dreamcast out on show.
 
 
 
I'm having a Dreamcast party tonight, I'm just in the process of setting everything up right now. I have a load of old university friends coming over this evening so play just like we did back in the day. That basically means a whole lot of boozy 4 player Powerstone action :)  I am also holding a Vampire/Dartkstalkers competition for a bottle of more booze that I'm putting up as a prize. I could well end up drinking my own bottle... 
 

 
#9 Posted by Branthog (5597 posts) -

I wasn't really much of a gamer back then (especially not a console gamer) but I just bought my fourth Dreamcast (third fully boxed - the other a vintage opened system) this week. They're stacked right along with my 3DO collection. Heh.

#10 Posted by StaticFalconar (4850 posts) -

The only DC game i ever cared about to this day is MVC2 and we all know where that game is now

#11 Posted by DrRandle (1206 posts) -
@Coltonio7: That is frakking fantastic.
 
So maybe I'll go play some Sonic Adventure in memory. Or buy MvC2 on XBLA. Now that I think about it.. They shoulda saved that for today :D
#12 Edited by MrKlorox (11209 posts) -

I remember fantasizing about buying one of these as a broke 9th grader. Instead I bought the horrible I-wish-it-was-Will-Wright-Peter-Moleneux-convergence-project SimThemepark the same day. Still rented one a week later and didn't stop playing that hoverboard tony hawk wannabe game the entire time.
 
I tried to convince my friends to get one or come play and they were all "Fuck you, let's get stoned and listen to Slipknot/Static-X"

#13 Posted by pause422 (6242 posts) -

I was actually just talking about Powerstone the otherday and how I loved playing it with friends back then. Somewhere in my closet I still got my DC, but I haven't turned it on in like 7 years so I have no idea if it works or not. I'm probably going to test it out later today after I get back from work..if it still does hopefully(was in fine condition so I think it should) I'm gonna bust out some Jet grind radio I think :P

#14 Edited by Marzy (675 posts) -

I would play mine today, but I need a new cable to play it on my HDTV. I can't believe after all these years I still use the aerial lead that came with it (it was never something I got round to doing, since before it looked ok on my CRT).
 
Such a fantastic console, I was very sad the day I heard they were stopping production. I was glad I got most of the best games before it died out. There are still quite a few that I need to play though and I will invest in later on. Shenmue & 2 were easily my favourite games for the system and still are.
 
Happy Dreamcast Day! hope you have a nice time Linkyshinks, sounds like good fun. :)

#15 Posted by Al3xand3r (7574 posts) -

It's too bad SEGA didn't do anything special for the day... Like announcing Shenmue 3 :-P

#16 Posted by SeeDsTOHR (42 posts) -

Happy Birthday, we miss you :)

#17 Posted by ryoma122 (699 posts) -

i just baught a black dream cast lol im gona have my self a good time
#18 Posted by buzz_clik (7026 posts) -
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#19 Posted by MrKlorox (11209 posts) -

Man, are there any worthwhile DC emulators out there? I remember not having much success with the Saturn one(s) about a year back.

#20 Posted by Diamond (8634 posts) -
@Al3xand3r said:
" It's too bad SEGA didn't do anything special for the day... Like announcing Shenmue 3 :-P "
They announced a new 2D Sonic game
#21 Posted by Cube (4366 posts) -

Man this makes me feel nostalgic. We miss you little buddy. RIP.

#22 Posted by Al3xand3r (7574 posts) -

Yeah, that would have been special, if we didn't have all the horrid Sonic games the past decade.

#23 Posted by Gump (565 posts) -

Viva la Dreamcast!

#24 Posted by Al3xand3r (7574 posts) -

I still have my DC but it's turned into a horrible yellow color... Very ugly. The controller too, though slightly less :-(
 
Oh well, my Shenmue 1 & 2 copies are in mint condition.

#25 Posted by TripMasterMunky (2403 posts) -

Shenmue and Jet Set Radio forever!

#26 Posted by cinemandrew (710 posts) -

Didn't even realize it was the 9th. Thanks for the reminder! Go Dreamcast GO!

#27 Posted by MrKlorox (11209 posts) -
@Al3xand3r: Really? I notice my SNES has turned form an almost purplish gray to a pissed-bedsheet beige. Except for the small plastic eject flap in the middle between the power and reset switches... that thing looks like the rest of the entire console used to when it was new.
#28 Posted by Kou_Leifoh (1890 posts) -
@Al3xand3r said:
" Yeah, that would have been special, if we didn't have all the horrid Sonic games the past decade. "
I don't give a fuck what people say, some of those 3D Sonic games were a lot of fun. I had so many nostalgic memories with the Sonic Adventure games.
 
 
Also, Sonic Unleashed was also fun.
#29 Edited by Linkyshinks (9880 posts) -
@MrKlorox said:

" @Al3xand3r: Really? I notice my SNES has turned form an almost purplish gray to a pissed-bedsheet beige. Except for the small plastic eject flap in the middle between the power and reset switches... that thing looks like the rest of the entire console used to when it was new. "

 
 
I did some research into the issue of yellowing and found that it's down to certain flame resistant chemicals that were used. (- in both the Dreamcast and the Super Nintendo) Those chemicals degrade and leech out a yellow residue. There's no way of reversing the effects, I have found, but if you do have a console in perfect condition you can maintain it's colour.  If you keep your consoles out of the sun and apply a little total factor sun block after a light cleaning when you do, it will help a great deal in preserving those chemicals and in turn the original colour of your consoles.
 
 
 
Continuing on the subject of Dreamcast care, If you have a working Dreamcast and you want to prolong it's life, I highly recommend the following. which is something I do to all my Dreamcasts now.
 
I give the plastic sheet that surrounds the PSU a little snip at the front and the back end to help with the hot air extraction. The DC is very badly designed in terms of it's layout, and that plastic only helps to trap heat making it more prone to over heating, and in turn the warping of the components and connections.




 
 If your suffering disc read errors and random restarts etc, this guy has some easy to follow videos on how to sort them out:
 
  http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=4E5A2578AF1981C9
#30 Posted by Marzy (675 posts) -
@Linkyshinks said:
" @MrKlorox said:

" @Al3xand3r: Really? I notice my SNES has turned form an almost purplish gray to a pissed-bedsheet beige. Except for the small plastic eject flap in the middle between the power and reset switches... that thing looks like the rest of the entire console used to when it was new. "

  I did some research into the issue of yellowing and found that it's down to certain flame resistant chemicals that were used. (- in both the Dreamcast and the Super Nintendo) Those chemicals degrade and leech out a yellow residue. There's no way of reversing the effects, I have found, but if you do have a console in perfect condition you can maintain it's colour.  If you keep your consoles out of the sun, and apply a little total factor sun block after a light cleaning, it will help a great deal in preserving those chemicals. "
My SNES is still grey and it's over 15 years old. I've always kept it out of the sun and treated it very well. The same is with my Dreamcast.
#31 Posted by Cerza (1653 posts) -

Happy 10th birthday Dreamcast!!! Though our time together was brief, I will always remember you as the little system that could. Whose games were strange, avante garde, and every single one of them kicked serious ass. Long live the Dreamcast!!!

#32 Posted by zyn (2591 posts) -

Happy Birthday Dreamcast!  You would've been 10 today.

#33 Posted by Osphere (207 posts) -
<3 Dreamcast
#34 Posted by Linkyshinks (9880 posts) -
@Marzy said:
" I would play mine today, but I need a new cable to play it on my HDTV. I can't believe after all these years I still use the aerial lead that came with it (it was never something I got round to doing, since before it looked ok on my CRT).  Such a fantastic console, I was very sad the day I heard they were stopping production. I was glad I got most of the best games before it died out. There are still quite a few that I need to play though and I will invest in later on. Shenmue & 2 were easily my favourite games for the system and still are.  Happy Dreamcast Day! hope you have a nice time Linkyshinks, sounds like good fun. :) "
 
 eBay or Amazon should do the trick cheaply.
 
Thanks, I certainly will do, I have a veritable buffet of games to play. By the end of the night we will all be chatting to Seaman in a severely drunk state asking him why Sega deserted us :(
#35 Posted by ArbitraryWater (12110 posts) -

As little as I know/care about the dreamcast, I do understand that a lot of people like it. Oh, and no Dreamcast thread would be complete without this little video:
 

#36 Posted by Creamypies (4091 posts) -

I know it was the first console to hit the 128 mark. And it had Shenmue and Jet Set Radio to its name. But I've honestly never understood the legendary status that this console seems to hold. It wasn't that great.
 
I'm prepared to stand corrected though. So fire away haha.

#37 Posted by MikeFightNight (1117 posts) -

stiil got mine hooked up for all the 2d fighters I love. However I have a PS2 controller converter for my DC. I hate the DC d-pad.
#38 Posted by Marzy (675 posts) -
@Linkyshinks said:
" @Marzy said:
" I would play mine today, but I need a new cable to play it on my HDTV. I can't believe after all these years I still use the aerial lead that came with it (it was never something I got round to doing, since before it looked ok on my CRT).  Such a fantastic console, I was very sad the day I heard they were stopping production. I was glad I got most of the best games before it died out. There are still quite a few that I need to play though and I will invest in later on. Shenmue & 2 were easily my favourite games for the system and still are.  Happy Dreamcast Day! hope you have a nice time Linkyshinks, sounds like good fun. :) "
  eBay or Amazon should do the trick cheaply.   Thanks, I certainly will do, I have a veritable buffet of games to play. By the end of the night we will all be chatting to Seaman in a severely drunk state asking him why Sega deserted us :( "
 

I've been wanting to get Seaman, it looks like great fun. I'm sure I'd prefer it over Milo, from what I've seen it looks more enjoyable. It's a shame it's so rare to find.
 
If you were to use a Dreamcast on a HDTV, which sort of cable would you recommend LS?
#39 Posted by Scooper (7881 posts) -

Maaaaaan. I loved the Dreamcast. So many great games for it. It had some great 3D fighters before 3D fighters got lame like the original Soul Calibur, that was an amazing game, I loved playing Virtua Fighter too. Jet Set Radio, Revolt, Sonic Adventure.. I spent hours in Sonic Adventure 1 & 2 getting my Chao to be how I wanted it to be without actualy knowing what I needed to do to make it change, it was all hap-hazard giving it random foods and things and seeing what happened. The VMU games were great too, I had to replace the batteries for the thing and they were way expensive from some crazy electronics store.
 
The thing sold over 10 million units though so it wasn't the utter utter failure I thought it was. 10 Million is still a good number.

#40 Edited by Linkyshinks (9880 posts) -
@Marzy said:

" @Linkyshinks said:

" @Marzy said:

" I would play mine today, but I need a new cable to play it on my HDTV. I can't believe after all these years I still use the aerial lead that came with it (it was never something I got round to doing, since before it looked ok on my CRT).  Such a fantastic console, I was very sad the day I heard they were stopping production. I was glad I got most of the best games before it died out. There are still quite a few that I need to play though and I will invest in later on. Shenmue & 2 were easily my favourite games for the system and still are.  Happy Dreamcast Day! hope you have a nice time Linkyshinks, sounds like good fun. :) "

  eBay or Amazon should do the trick cheaply.   Thanks, I certainly will do, I have a veritable buffet of games to play. By the end of the night we will all be chatting to Seaman in a severely drunk state asking him why Sega deserted us :( "
 I've been wanting to get Seaman, it looks like great fun. I'm sure I'd prefer it over Milo, from what I've seen it looks more enjoyable. It's a shame it's so rare to find.  If you were to use a Dreamcast on a HDTV, which sort of cable would you recommend LS? "
 
 
A regular Scart lead is your best option, it will be a substantial improvement over the grainy image your get with a aerial lead. 
 
You can get all the connections with one of these though:  ( ebay might have one cheap, if not, opt for a regular scart lead)
 
Dreamcast VGA Box

My lounge is looking like a Dreamcast shrine right now :)   I still need to bring in my Dreamcast Pod downstairs too :D
 
 
 
#41 Posted by LordCrom (277 posts) -

My favorite system in gaming history!  Thank you for all the joy you brought me Dreamcast.  You left us far to soon.
#42 Posted by Systech (4078 posts) -
@Coltonio7: That modified comic strip is very accurate for the time.
#43 Posted by destruktive (1069 posts) -
@Linkyshinks said:
"  

 
Dug this out for some drunken Seaman action. Yes I know that sounds sick


 "
God damnit. That sounds fun.
I wish I had seaman and the mic. :|
#44 Edited by MrKlorox (11209 posts) -
@Marzy said:

" @Linkyshinks said:

I did some research into the issue of yellowing and found that it's down to certain flame resistant chemicals that were used. (- in both the Dreamcast and the Super Nintendo) Those chemicals degrade and leech out a yellow residue. There's no way of reversing the effects, I have found, but if you do have a console in perfect condition you can maintain it's colour.  If you keep your consoles out of the sun, and apply a little total factor sun block after a light cleaning, it will help a great deal in preserving those chemicals. "

My SNES is still grey and it's over 15 years old. I've always kept it out of the sun and treated it very well. The same is with my Dreamcast. "
So THAT was my problem... and here I somehow thought it was smoke damage. I'll admit I've always been into playing when everything's a little clearer in the light of day and you know the night is always gonna be there anyway.
 
#45 Posted by Absurd (2934 posts) -

I never owned a Dreamcast, but I did play Tony Hawk Pro Skater 2 on a Dreamcast at a store. That's when I realized I wanted to own a console.(I got a PS2 for Christmas)

#46 Posted by MrRedwine (430 posts) -

The Dreamcast was the first console I bought for myself.  When I was in college, this console was simply amazing.  There were so many games I loved on the Dreamcast.  Rush was probably the game my wife and I played the most.  She was pretty amazing at that game.

#47 Posted by MeierTheRed (4941 posts) -

Always wished i had bought a Dreamcast, but i never did. I had the Saturn though.

#48 Posted by Marzy (675 posts) -

Thanks LS, I'll look into getting a VGA, but if they're too expensive, then I'll go for the scart.
 
I love your Dreamcast pod.

#49 Edited by Linkyshinks (9880 posts) -
@ArbitraryWater   

" As little as I know/care about the dreamcast, I do understand that a lot of people like it. Oh, and no Dreamcast thread would be complete without this little video:
 

"
 
 
Great find.  
 
 

  

 @Marzy  

 

" Thanks LS, I'll look into getting a VGA, but if they're too expensive, then I'll go for the scart.  I love your Dreamcast pod. "


So do I, I bought it at a auction in London's Acton a while ago. It looks a lot cleaner now that it's in my bedroom, that above photo was taken when I first got it. It's pretty heavy and a mission to get down the stairs safely.     
 
 
 

@MrKlorox

" @Marzy said:

" @Linkyshinks said:

I did some research into the issue of yellowing and found that it's down to certain flame resistant chemicals that were used. (- in both the Dreamcast and the Super Nintendo) Those chemicals degrade and leech out a yellow residue. There's no way of reversing the effects, I have found, but if you do have a console in perfect condition you can maintain it's colour.  If you keep your consoles out of the sun, and apply a little total factor sun block after a light cleaning, it will help a great deal in preserving those chemicals. "

My SNES is still grey and it's over 15 years old. I've always kept it out of the sun and treated it very well. The same is with my Dreamcast. "
So THAT was my problem... and here I somehow thought it was smoke damage. I'll admit I've always been into playing when everything's a little clearer in the light of day and you know the night is always gonna be there anyway.
 
"
 
Yep, I think many must have blamed it on smoking.  I wonder what 360s, Wii's and PS3's will look like in 15-20 years time " /       
 
 
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#50 Posted by UnsolvedParadox (1867 posts) -

I missed out on this originally, may have to shell out and grab a used one to experience the original Sega content...

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