This Modern Warfare 2 PC Situation Is Getting Crazy

" It's obvious as hell, and Jeff was right on the podcasts.  "They'll figure out how to charge PC gamers for maps."  "

I was going to buy it, but not anymore, I guess. I can't stand playing Xbox360 online, and PC was going to be a refuge. Now they're forcing a change I don't care for, I'll pass. I guess.

" This is more of a testament to how PC gaming needs to change if it will remain alive, let along competitive.  Battle Net didnt cause as much a problem except for the no LAN thing.  But this is about giving a more console like experience to the people out there who are not all server crazy and say I only play here!  stuff.  More people means more money. IW is probably thinking, let the nerdy IP memorizing geeks run off.  We needs to make a tighter game and more money while we are at it. Gonna get the 360 version so doesn't affect me. It is these stubborn PC gamers who are causing the death of PC gaming, by getting all pussy like about this stuff and trying to tell the business how things should be done that they should stay the same when business has clearly not been good for a while.  Sorry but you A-holes who say that the game should get pirated and that IW and Activision deserve to have their game pirated are the cause of this.  Battle Net and IWNet, Games For Windows Livea and even Steam are a response to this and a way to get PC gaming back on its feet.  Your time is over. Oh and as for mods, COD was never a mod heavy game.  Its up to how they want people to mess with it. But it gets fucking annoying when i have to spend so much time downloading skins or maps or fucking .wav files for the sounds people think make the game better.  They dont.  Unless they are the announcer sounds from Unreal Tournament. "

" @Hannibal said:

" These are all things that are frustrating to the play experience for anyone who isn't fiercely loyal to the dedicated server system. "

C'mon, fiercely loyal? You make finding a half decent dedicated server sound like it's a difficult, time consuming activity. And if some people really do feel that way, they probably shouldn't be using their computer for video games, or much of anything else. 

The petition out right now is stupid.  There should be another petition where people pledge to hack, torrent, and pirate the game no matter what.  I'm a huge torrent user, and I have no problems helping out the cause.

" @Zabant said:

"CoD4 pc was pirated out the ass, something like 40% of copies out there were pirated.   Seeing IW make steps so that people only use IW:NET is a smart move as the pirates will be spotted the second they get in the system.  Also, threatening to pirate the game because they took out something that is a god damn privilege? hardly any console games have servers, and we deal and enjoy. Why must PC gamers throw their toys out the pram and act like a bunch of god damn retards...it only further enforces the stereotype that they are eliteist, a bunch of pirates and the most difficult to cater to auidience.  No wonder game devs are moving away from PC gaming. "

YEH CAUSE YOU COULD PLAY ONLINE WITHOUT A CD KEY COULDN'T YOU!!!!  You're a fucking idiot.  People who pirated the game did so for the single player or to play over hamachi and guess what they'll do that again because there will be a crack on release.  This doesn't stop piracy but hurts the players.   "

Two Universes: one for dedicated matchmaking, and the other custom modifications, ect. 
 
Is that so hard?

I'm surprised this wasn't accompanied by footage of angry PC gamers interrupting the press conference when this was announced. (Town hall joke, for those who couldn't understand.)

I cancelled my pre-order the second I saw this and will never buy an IW game again.  They aren't a noteworthy enough developer to me for me to put up with such an anti-consumer stance. 
 
And that doesn't mean I'll be buying it used or torrenting it.  I stand by my boycotts and will not be playing MW2 at all.

" I'm surprised this wasn't accompanied by footage of angry PC gamers interrupting the press conference when this was announced. (Town hall joke, for those who couldn't understand.) "

The problem is they are turning the PC version into a console experience. The PC community shells out huge amount of money for what they consider the PC experience. They want their mods, their dedicated servers, and they want it for $50. MW2 is offering none of this one, so its really not that surprising that PC gamers are pissed.

This is dumb, but Activisoin is still a bunch of pricks.

If if I did plan on playing MW2 on a computer, which I do not, I enjoy matchmaking better than finding servers. It's so much easier! Stupid whining bitches.

It really sucks the pretty much all console gamers have to use that kind of system and now PC gamers too? Sucks.
 
 http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=225744&site=pcg

"...but matchmaking was created for users who aren't into ping times, joining clans, etc. etc. "

" If if I did plan on playing MW2 on a computer, which I do not, I enjoy matchmaking better than finding servers. It's so much easier! Stupid whining bitches. "

Who cares?

"These are the same idiots that flipped out over LAN support in Starcraft 2 "

" If if I did plan on playing MW2 on a computer, which I do not, I enjoy matchmaking better than finding servers. It's so much easier! Stupid whining bitches. "

" If if I did plan on playing MW2 on a computer, which I do not, I enjoy matchmaking better than finding servers. It's so much easier! Stupid whining bitches. "

It is what it is.  I certainly won't be purchasing Infinity Ward games any longer.  Aside from superior performance, PC games offer a more customizable experience and the ability to form cohesive server based communitites.  Infinity Ward killed this.  They claim it's to help those who can't navigate a server list (how did that individual even turn on their PC?) but it's to control the market.  They want to force DLC content as best they can, it's not possible when players controls the server rotation.
 
But like others have said, posing this question on a site full of console players accomplishes nothing (except providing some laughs for me).

" If if I did plan on playing MW2 on a computer, which I do not, I enjoy matchmaking better than finding servers. It's so much easier! Stupid whining bitches. "

 @Hannibal: ohh great ns attitude, go play on a console where matchmaking takes 5 mins as opposed to clicking on a server and getting in and playing in like 5 seconds, great!...if u dont care about pc games, dont give ur 2 cents on a pc discussion

" If if I did plan on playing MW2 on a computer, which I do not, I enjoy matchmaking better than finding servers. It's so much easier! Stupid whining bitches. "

" @Vinchenzo said:

" If if I did plan on playing MW2 on a computer, which I do not, I enjoy matchmaking better than finding servers. It's so much easier! Stupid whining bitches. "

It's about quality. With servers you can find games with whatever rules or mods you want. And you can add them to your favorites so you never have to look for them all the time everytime you start the game up.  No need to go around adding random people to your friend's list so that you can follow them everywhere.  And with the matchmaking system, the host always has the advantage over the other players in the room because it's his connection you're playing on. Sucks for you guys, unless you're the host  LOL "

Never enjoyed hunting for servers in the first place, let alone getting the ip read-out over a voice chat client and having to type it in manually. Bleh.

" @PowerSerj:  Definitely understand what you're saying, but what do you say to those "casual pc gamer" folks then? There are a lot more than the clan/hardcore pc gamer. Also, to tell them to "just get a console," doesn't that hurt your cause as well?  Don't you want PC gaming to thrive?  Whether the hardcore pc gamer likes it or not, the casual pc gamer is essential in continuing the greatness that is PC gaming. Still, I really feel for you guys. Really really do. It's totally shitty that they took this away from you guys. "

Way too many stupid comments from console gamers here to even bother explaining why removing dedicated servers is essentially removing the heart of online PC games.

" @w00master said:

" @PowerSerj:  Definitely understand what you're saying, but what do you say to those "casual pc gamer" folks then? There are a lot more than the clan/hardcore pc gamer. Also, to tell them to "just get a console," doesn't that hurt your cause as well?  Don't you want PC gaming to thrive?  Whether the hardcore pc gamer likes it or not, the casual pc gamer is essential in continuing the greatness that is PC gaming. Still, I really feel for you guys. Really really do. It's totally shitty that they took this away from you guys. "

Another point is, is that it really isn't a complicated system at all, seeing as how it has been the norm for PC FPSs for a long enough time. This would have happened a long time ago had it really been a problem. The influx of casual gamers probably has little to do with it, also, seeing as how much more attractive a console is to someone who is would be in the dark about these things. "

" @w00master: Once again there is no PC Gamer who isn't comfortable with server browsing. "

" @mhkjtha said:

" @w00master: Once again there is no PC Gamer who isn't comfortable with server browsing. "

Once again, you're not understanding my point. LOL. Dude, not tryin' to get into a fight here..  just tryin' to see both sides.  It's not about it "being hard." It's about user experience.   Again (removing your bias from this debate), what's a better user experience:  1.) Being presented with a list of servers.  2.) Clicking Multiplayer and done.  Again, I'm really on your side dude...  I still think it's shitty that dedicated servers are gone... just trying to see both sides. "

I would wager that despite the PC sales being very marginal that the majority of those people know what a server list is. 
 
No one WANTS matchmaking. Won't stop IW/Activision from putting it in.

" @w00master: When was the last time you heard a "casual" PC gamer express the urge for matchmaking? Really? "

This is exactly what Jeff Gertsmanm predicted when he said activision will find a way to charge for DLC map packs for pc. Except Activision got just a bit more than what it wanted, it also killed the franchise on PC in on fell swoop.

" @w00master said:

" @mhkjtha said:

" @w00master: Once again there is no PC Gamer who isn't comfortable with server browsing. "

Once again, you're not understanding my point. LOL. Dude, not tryin' to get into a fight here..  just tryin' to see both sides.  It's not about it "being hard." It's about user experience.   Again (removing your bias from this debate), what's a better user experience:  1.) Being presented with a list of servers.  2.) Clicking Multiplayer and done.  Again, I'm really on your side dude...  I still think it's shitty that dedicated servers are gone... just trying to see both sides. "

People playing on the PC don't give a shit about user experience. And finding a server is much better because then you can favorite them and play it anytime you get back instead of worthless matchmaking. "