Why aren't PS3 trophies linked to the site?

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#1  Edited By atomslayer

Just wondering.

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#2  Edited By raviolisumo

They mentioned it on the podcast awhile ago. I wanna say it was a Sony decision, but I'm probably wrong.

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#3  Edited By Korosive

I think Sony was like "Oh no you don't", and cut off access...

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#4  Edited By bubahula

its sony's fault.
they don't share that info or something like that.

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#5  Edited By DanielJW

I'll confirm that Sony dropped  the support. There was a thread on it where Jeff commented about it. Sucks, I know.

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#6  Edited By Gabriel

Sony's doing their usual, ''Hey that sounds like a cool and neat idea why don't we fuck it up.''  
 
Ex. PSP go

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#7  Edited By gingertastic_10

Cause they're a bitch. JK. Love you Sony <3. 
 
They don't want that to be messed with I guess.

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#8  Edited By Korosive

Kind of sad really... They want everyone to use their trophy tracking. Which is ok, but GB is so much better. If anything, it would only help game sales.

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#9  Edited By The_Joker

With any luck, Sony may some day take a better look at giantbomb and its community and reconsider. We can only hope.

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#10  Edited By atomslayer

Wow a bunch of responses real quick, can't wait to continue using the forum. Just tracking achievements (sorry trophies) on the site sounds like fun.

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#11  Edited By sopranosfan
@The_Joker said:
" With any luck, Sony may some day take a better look at giantbomb and its community and reconsider. We can only hope. "
If they look close enough they will probably try to remove everything related to the PS3.
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#12  Edited By Mmmslash
@atomslayer: It was, for the few days we had them.
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#13  Edited By The_Laughing_Man
@Bubahula said:
" its sony's fault. they don't share that info or something like that. "
But they allow other trophy card sites? That..does not compute.
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#14  Edited By atomslayer

As a fanboy somewhat by default (my parents got me a PS3 slim this year for christmas when my Xbox died and I already had a PS3) I semi agree but I mean the PS3 for sure has some pluses over the 360.

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#15  Edited By bubahula
@The_Laughing_Man: 
they allow those. but they don't allow people to actually play with that info. don't ask me. im just the janitor.
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#16  Edited By The_Laughing_Man
@Bubahula said:
" @The_Laughing_Man:  they allow those. but they don't allow people to actually play with that info. don't ask me. im just the janitor. "
I would love to show off my trophies here. Since I haven't updated my 360 online in..well...years.
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#17  Edited By NTM

I don't know, I was gonna ask about that too. That'd be cool. Oh, and off topic. Wii needs achievements/trophies of some sort as well. Some really great games I could play on it kinda push me away since I don't really feel like I'm getting anything for it. I don't really use trophies and achievements to show how much better I am than others with a higher score, but to go through them and make sure I go through a certain game 100 percent. If I like a game, I don't like missing out on things.
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#18  Edited By AndrewB

Isn't it simply because they haven't released the API tools? That's probably more them being lazy or at the most shortsighted rather than pure assholes.

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#19  Edited By Mmmslash
@AndrewB: Not really, there was Trophy functionality in the works here for awhile, until Sony decided to douche us, Summer's Eve style.
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#20  Edited By AndrewB
@Mmmslash:  Okay, I stand corrected. That's pretty awfully dumb. The achievement tracking tools here are probably the most grand thing accomplished by the site engineers here, and they've done some pretty awesome things (this whole wiki).
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#21  Edited By Mmmslash
@AndrewB: I absolutely agree. I wish we could have trophy support back.
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#22  Edited By Andorski

Sony's software engineers suck at their job.  Playstation.com still has the issue of being unable to show players their trophies if they are already logged in.  I have to sign out and sign back in to see all my trophies.

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#23  Edited By Hamz

The reason there is no trophy integration is down to the fact Sony don't allow their trophy API stuff to be used by outside sources to collect and keep track of an individual's trophy information. 

Giant Bomb has proven that the WoW, Steam and Microsoft achievement tracking is not only super popular amongst the community here but also really great if you want a place to consolidate your achievements across various services under one roof. It would be great if Sony decided to open up a little more and allow their trophy API functionality to be made more publicly available so users on GB.com can also include their PS3 trophies to show off to friends and so forth.

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#24  Edited By MildMolasses
@The_Laughing_Man said:
" @Bubahula said:
" its sony's fault. they don't share that info or something like that. "
But they allow other trophy card sites? That..does not compute. "

I'd be willing to bet that part of the problem was that GB was adding point values to the trophies that allowed for comparisions between xbox and ps3 versions of the same game. I'm sure Sony wouldn't like people trying to make an extremely direct comparison between trophies and achievements
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#25  Edited By handlas
@MildMolasses said:
" @The_Laughing_Man said:
" @Bubahula said:
" its sony's fault. they don't share that info or something like that. "
But they allow other trophy card sites? That..does not compute. "
I'd be willing to bet that part of the problem was that GB was adding point values to the trophies that allowed for comparisions between xbox and ps3 versions of the same game. I'm sure Sony wouldn't like people trying to make an extremely direct comparison between trophies and achievements "
eh?  But everyone knows Trophies are just rip offs of Achievements.  Cmon now.  I never really understand them anyway.  They add, for me, some replay value to a game I really love but it always baffles me when someone touts their Gamerscore.  I got kicked out of a L4D2 game once because of it.  I joined a game and a guy says "Wait, lemme look at this guy's Gamerscore."  He looks at it.  "Mmmm it's alright.  I'm gonna kick him tho."   ....wtf, seriously?
 
One thing good about the PS3 imo.  Seems like much less people give a shit about trophies.  At least I never hear a single person mention them in MP.
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#26  Edited By KingBroly

There's still a  public feed for Trophies that a couple of sites have tapped into, so I don't know if that's something they could look into or not.  But yeah, it is Sony's fault.  However, I think the site's points totals for the trophies was wrong, and a lot of other people think that as well.

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#27  Edited By meteora

Well, that's a total douche move...
 
How is it harmful that GiantBomb gets the functionality to show off trophies?

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#28  Edited By Hamz
@Meteora: It isn't just Giant Bomb being picked out but rather it seems Sony is not in favour of sharing their trophy information and the API that would allow for automatic tracking and updating to be used outside of certain circles.
 
@MildMolasses said:
"I'd be willing to bet that part of the problem was that GB was adding point values to the trophies that allowed for comparisions between xbox and ps3 versions of the same game. I'm sure Sony wouldn't like people trying to make an extremely direct comparison between trophies and achievements"

Now you mention it I never thought of that being a potential reason, and likely I doubt it was a big part of it either, but it seems likely that may be why Sony as a whole doesn't share the information or access to their API so publicly.
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#29  Edited By GeneralMojo_786

that sucks :(

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#30  Edited By Nadafinga

But there are other third-party sites out there that somehow access our trophy info to make trophy cards...(don't want to directly link, not sure of the rules about that here). 
 
How do they get around it?

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#31  Edited By Qorious

I think Sony didn't release their API out unlike Microsoft. That's why you usually see sites integrating Microsoft Achievement points more instead of Sony's Trophies system.

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#32  Edited By TwoOneFive

They WERE linked for like a few weeks and then sony took away the feature. 

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#33  Edited By WinterSnowblind
@AndrewB said:
" @Mmmslash:  Okay, I stand corrected. That's pretty awfully dumb. The achievement tracking tools here are probably the most grand thing accomplished by the site engineers here, and they've done some pretty awesome things (this whole wiki). "
If you look at my profile you can actually see the remnants of the system they had in place for a few weeks.
Sony decided they didn't want us having fun without using their own system.  :(
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#34  Edited By iam3green

sony didn't want trophies to be tracked. some thing that they shouldn't care about really.

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#35  Edited By ShaunassNZ
@atomslayer: Because no one likes Sony anymore, even Brad.
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#36  Edited By natetodamax

Cuz Sony said so.

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#37  Edited By EpicSteve

Some mod should add this to an FAQ section.

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#38  Edited By MikkaQ

Because Sony doesn't like making trophies useful, apparently. They seemed like they were tyring so hard to compete with xbox live, but then after the trophy update, their efforts went kinda stagnant. For all they've done for their platform in 2009, the online support and services surrounding them are still lagging behind.