Would you play a game with an openly homosexual protagonist?

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#101  Edited By MisterMouse
@depecheload said:

@pyromaster222 said:

Well I wrote a whole post about how I could understand the use of an openly gay character who isn't flamboyant, as a large majority of gay men are...

Really? Large majority? I assume you took a poll?

All you know of gay men is what you see on TV and in movies most likely. How do you know some random dude who doesn't "act gay" isn't openly gay? Guess what, you don't.

Stop making assumptions.

No I did not take a poll, but I myself am gay. So you yourself need to stop making assumptions. By saying that all I know of gay men is what I see on TV and is movies that is an assumption. I think you have missed the point of what I was trying to say. I am saying that a person doesn't need to be flamboyant to be openly gay. What I was saying that a large majority of gay men aren't flamboyant and thus I could understand the use of a character who wasn't flamboyant but openly gay.
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#102  Edited By Sooty

Huh. I thought we already had a few of these games? Did you not play Gears of War?

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#103  Edited By Dany

@pyromaster222 said:

@depecheload said:

@pyromaster222 said:

Well I wrote a whole post about how I could understand the use of an openly gay character who isn't flamboyant, as a large majority of gay men are...

Really? Large majority? I assume you took a poll?

All you know of gay men is what you see on TV and in movies most likely. How do you know some random dude who doesn't "act gay" isn't openly gay? Guess what, you don't.

Stop making assumptions.

No I did not take a poll, but I myself am gay. So you yourself need to stop making assumptions. By saying that all I know of gay men is what I see on TV and is movies that is an assumption. I think you have missed the point of what I was trying to say. I am saying that a person doesn't need to be flamboyant to be openly gay. What I was saying that a large majority of gay men aren't flamboyant and thus I could understand the use of a character who wasn't flamboyant but openly gay.

flamboyancy and that dumb lisp so many like to fake gives off the perception that many see. Both are just weird and turn offs but some see that as a reflection of gay men which can be really fucking annoying at times.

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#104  Edited By SuperCycle

As a general rule I would have to say that I wouldn't really care as long as gameplay and story are there, but in all honesty I might shy away from a game that had overt homosexual tones. For example, I didn't have a huge problem playing Boyonetta, I knew it was extremely over the top and very sexualized, but I could still play it and enjoy it. If Bayonetta was a man though and did all of the same things that she did, I would be less likely to play the game. I wouldn't hate on it I just wouldn't even give it a chance. Now I wouldn't have a problem if Master Chief or the dudes from Gears were turned into homosexuals, because their sexuality has never really defined them as characters, and I have played gay dragon age and mass effect characters and haven't had any problems playing them. 

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#105  Edited By Otheradam
If the game is good. A homosexual protagonist wouldn't change much as long as the story is interesting and game fun to play.
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#106  Edited By tim_the_corsair

I'd be fine with it either way.

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#107  Edited By MisterMouse
@Dany: Agreed.
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#108  Edited By iam3green

yes, i wouldn't mind doing that. just no sex scenes and we will be good.

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#109  Edited By PixelPrinny

Coincidentally, Persona 2: Innocent Sin is almost out over here in the west on the PSP.  
 
Also quoting this for truth:   
 
    @RobertOrri
 said: 

I can't believe this is a question that has to be asked.


 As if any sane person would have some sort of moral dilemma over playing a game where the character's sexuality may differ from their own. Such people would no doubt also find it hard to play characters who are a different gender, species, or race, I imagine. And those kinda people are crazy.
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#110  Edited By napalm

It depends on the game. This is really the only correct answer. Those who just say "yes" right out of the gate are just trying to be political.

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#111  Edited By project343

Sure. I'd actually rather see them explore the concept of sexuality and identity a bit, to be honest. These are themes rarely explored in video games.

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#112  Edited By miningguyx360

@Gladiator_Games: My Commander Shepherd is homosexual.

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#113  Edited By TheDudeOfGaming

If the game has sex scenes, hells no.

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#114  Edited By Sooty
@TheDudeOfGaming said:

If the game has sex scenes, hells no.

Mass Effect 3 has.
 
That said I don't think a game will ship where you're forced to play a homosexual character that later engages in male on male 'sex' scenes. America still seems to throw hissy fits over boobs and heterosexual 'sex' scenes. 
 
I think Fox News might implode if a game with a homosexual lead character engaged in some off-screen dong loving.
 
God hates fags.
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#115  Edited By Cramsy
@TheDudeOfGaming said:
If the game has sex scenes, hells no.
You don't see anything in sex scenes with straight characters, why would this be any different? 
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#116  Edited By Winger

Depends...is the game good?

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#117  Edited By imsh_pl

If the game itself was worth checking out I don't see a problem.

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#118  Edited By Hailinel

I may already have, if Cho Aniki counts.

But seriously, I'd have no problem with playing a game with a homosexual protagonist, so long as the protagonist was well-characterized.

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#119  Edited By TheDudeOfGaming
@Cramsy: Because my porn filter is set to straight, nothing wrong with being gay, but I'm not. You can throw in homosexual scenes in the game, but don't force me to watch it.
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#121  Edited By Gladiator_Games
@PixelPrinny: And that's a very, very good point. I defend myself asking the question only by saying as a student of Anthropology and Sociology, I find this kind of stuff fascinating. How social issues can impact things such as games, movies, music, etc. 
 
Would people view Grand Theft Auto differently if Niko was black? (and yes, I know, GTA: SA, but that was a much less 'serious' game.)  Would Indiana Jones have the same following if played by a woman?  Would you play a game that depicted you murdering an innocent (and not on that crappy way MW2 did it), Would a song about promoting rape culture be more acceptable if done by a female? Would a game like 'Diablo' be as popular if it were titled 'Satan', would it's sale even be allowed?
 
 It's the question of: "if we shake up the norm, is it still the same?" You'll probably see more social issue stuff like this come up from me in the future. Plus, its great discussion material!
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#122  Edited By Rowr

Roleplaying a gay person holds no interest for me, in the same way I cant really get into games where the protaganist is a woman.

That said, it's only going to matter if it has any bearing on the game, but I cant see why it ever would in this medium.

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#123  Edited By Snipzor
@TheDudeOfGaming said:
@Cramsy: Because my porn filter is set to straight, nothing wrong with being gay, but I'm not. You can throw in homosexual scenes in the game, but don't force me to watch it.
I'm sure if one of them was really cute and slightly girly looking, and you weren't told he was a guy. I don't think you would have minded. Not that character models can be that good with that sort of thing. 
 
Also, this whole thing reminds me a Marty Feldman sketch, well it was a general British comedy sketch. Funny he never married. Ha ha, Captain Price... funny he never married.
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#124  Edited By kingzetta

Well I'd hope he would not be that one dimensional.

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#125  Edited By shadystx

If the game was good and the fact he/she was gay tied into the story in a good way then yes I would play it, On the other hand I would prefer it was a "normal gay" person if you will and not one of the over the top in your face homosexual as they get on my nerves, I do not know why as I honestly have nothing against homosexuals but that very camp attitude grinds on me a bit as surely those people did not act like that when they were growing up so I assume when they realised they were gay they started talking/acting like that, Maybe not but my example of this was a friend i went to school with from first school to high school(5-15) was a normal guy who spoke with a normal accent and had typical male expressions but then i bumped into him a couple of years later at a party and he was way over the top with his campiness as if he wanted to make sure everyone knew he was gay, I am an each to his own type of person but when that intrudes on other people in an obnoxious way then it annoys me a little. 
 
So to sum up if the main character a very camp homosexual that would probably get on my nerves a little while playing it.

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#126  Edited By apathylad

What genre are we talking about here? Because in most games, I wouldn't say romance is a big part of the experience. And I wouldn't even say most games handle heterosexual relationships particularly well - they just feel tacked on (sex scene in Heavy Rain).

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#127  Edited By Gladiator_Games
@Apathylad: Well.. lets assume multiple genres.. shooters? romance? rpg?
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#128  Edited By arcn
@Ygg: "Coming up next on Fox News, are gay video game characters trying to indoctrinate your children?!"
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#129  Edited By Xearo

I already have My FemShep and Fable heroine like the ladies. I would have no trouble playing as an openly gay Character

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#130  Edited By FacelessVixen

Sure. I mean, I've already done that in Fable 2.

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#131  Edited By clstirens
@Gladiator_Games: I would actually really enjoy the game, so long as it is at least somewhat tasteful. I'm not usually bothered by gay stereotypes in games, but there is a line that can be crossed even for me. 
 
I'd prefer it to NOT be one of his notable character traits simply because I find subtle detail and characterization to be far more enjoyable. 
 
Though, on that note, I'd love to see a sort of Bulletstorm game with a super flamboyant character to completely spin the "uber tough space marine guy" trope on it's side.
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#132  Edited By dagas

I'd love to see a gay Duke Nukem. Not flamboyant, still as macho as he is, but gay. And of course he will be saying things like "pussies are for pussies" and "I like my guns big". That would be pretty funny.

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#133  Edited By Yanngc33

Yes, as long as aid homosexual controls nicely and has personnality

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#134  Edited By Branthog

Why would it matter to me? What's next "Would you play a game where the protagonist is openly Canadian?".

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#135  Edited By Gladiator_Games
@Branthog: Well, naturally. And it would be the kindest, nicest game you've ever played! Achievements would include "not be hated by everyone else" and "Timmies run complete". =D
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#136  Edited By ajamafalous

@FluxWaveZ said:

Yes. But I don't care about the concept and wouldn't be interested in seeing it be executed either.
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#137  Edited By Red

I wouldn't play as a flamboyantly gay person who talks ridiculously high, loves designer jeans and can't stop singing, no. Those things annoy me, and make me unable to sympathize with the protagonist. I don't like Duke Nukem for the same reason--he's a tool. But if they were gay in the Neil Patrick Harris way of unobtrusiveness, then yeah, I guess. I mean, if it was a good game besides that.

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#138  Edited By NTM
@cooljammer00: That'd be kind of like playing through Metroid and not knowing Samus was a female until the end.
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#139  Edited By Jimbo

Enchanted Arms is incredibly gay. Even the name is a bit gay. My FemShep has her liquor license.

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#140  Edited By NTM

Anyone that says Gears of War is retarded, even if they're slightly sarcastic. We already know the characters and how they're not gay, it wasn't funny the first time. You could just say that about any buddy soldier or buddy cop story out there. You know, 'cause we all know Riggs and Murtaugh from Lethal Weapon are gay, or every soldier that fights together in war is gay right? Ugh. I may sound like I take it too seriously, but really, it was never funny.

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#141  Edited By Gladiator_Games
@NTM: *ahem* Blame Top Gun for that one...
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#142  Edited By Mastercheesey

@csoup said: Just for reference, however, I wouldn't play a game with a straight guy/girl that wasn't well crafted or they were over-the-top male or feminine.

What about like all fighting games.

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#143  Edited By TheGreatGuero

That's how I made my character in Saints Row!

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#144  Edited By Getz

The main character in Phantasmagoria 2 is bisexual, does that count?

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#145  Edited By tourgen

I don't know maybe.  It depends on what type of game it is and how it's handled.  It would pull me out of the experience to some degree though because I wouldn't identify with "my character" as much.  Sometimes I have the same issue with woman mains in RPGs, depending on how the game is structured
 
sometimes games push the player more strongly towards RPing the main but then layer on all of this other overt character stuff that makes it hard to identify with.  You see people rage on this all the time.  "MY character would NEVER have done that thing in the cut scene!!!  This game sucks!!"  I could see some of the same issues with a homosexual main for most people.
 
Anyway, in any game type that matters and that would also feature sexual themes, orientation pretty much has to be a player choice.

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#146  Edited By Dunchad

I wouldn't want to play a RPG or any story driven game with a gay protagonist, for the same reason I don't play those games with a female protagonist. I like to immerse myself in the game and story, so I always play as a version of myself - not being gay nor a woman, having relationships with men would just be weird and would break the immersion.

As for other genres - the sexuality of the protagonist doesn't really matter. I guess it would come down to how "in your face" it would be. If there had been male strippers in Duke and you could've tipped them - I would have been fine with that. But if DNF started with Duke giving head to two guys - I think I would have found that even more distasteful than the current scene.

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#147  Edited By lockwoodx

Open sexuality doesn't need to be in any game.

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#148  Edited By Matfei90

Protagonist sexuality isn't something that would sway my decision to play a game or not.

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#149  Edited By Paboned

How would we know he's gay if the never shows it and never does anything that shows he is a homosexual. I didn't even know Dumbledor was gay untill someone told me. I think sexual orientation doesn't matter; it's irrelevant in that case. But no I would not be opposed to an openly gay character.

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#150  Edited By Meowayne

Of course. I'd love that.