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#1  Edited By regularassmilk

So it always seems to make the news when games/movies/cool sunglasses

Are fuckin' banned in Australia. 



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So out of curiosity, what is the deal, to any Aussies on the site? Why does Australia feel the need to be so touchy with all of their media?
MK just got banned. And hey, shit yes its violent but dude, its also fuckin' Mortal Kombat. Australia has access to the internet, which pretty much means the kiddies and adults alike can read about aardvarks on Wikipedia just as quickly as they could get on Rotten.com. Whats the problem with banning, and what do you gamers and aussies think about it?
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#3  Edited By MysteriousBob

Oh hey look, its the most original discussion on the internet!


Maybe you should look this up instead of calling an entire nation pussies.
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#4  Edited By regularassmilk
@MysteriousBob said:
" Oh hey look, its the most original discussion on the internet!

Maybe you should look this up instead of calling an entire nation pussies.
"
Yeah because i'm definitely trying to fucking start a flame war with Australia.
I was asking why the censorship is so heavy. Take a few steps back, pal.
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#5  Edited By mnzy

They didn't even try to release MK here in Germany. So, I guess that's worse!?
But honestly, this game is pretty violent, it's hard to make a point why young people need to be able to play it.

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#6  Edited By CaptainObvious

They made The Road Warrior...


                                                                                                                                           ROAD FUCKING WARRIOR
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#7  Edited By EVO

Yes, Australia sucks because a dozen or so games have been banned over the years. Most of which are shit anyway.

On the other hand we get better box art, beautiful women and the best sport on earth.

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#8  Edited By Snipzor
@EVO said:
" Yes, Australia sucks because a dozen or so games have been banned over the years. Most of which are shit anyway.On the other hand we get better box art, beautiful women and the best sport on earth. "
Montreal has better women and an even better sport. Take that EVO! No, I'm not into women, but I'm just telling you what I've been told.
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#9  Edited By MariachiMacabre

I've always wondered why the governments of Australia and Germany feel they need to babysit their citizens. Not a bash on the countries at all but I think their ADULT citizens should have the right to play these game if they want.

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#10  Edited By cyraxible

There are a few people at the top that would like to keep it the way it is, the rest of the country understands that adults should be able to make these decisions for themselves. 



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#11  Edited By fox01313

Maybe they feel that with all the excessive violence in some video games will either drive the whole island into one giant 24/7 riot or seeing how 99% of the animal/insect life around that island is poisonous, making all the poisonous animals recreate several 1970s movies of animals attacking everyone ever.

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#12  Edited By benjaebe

I have a few friends in Australia and, from what I understand, the majority of the citizens are in favor of an R18+ rating for games. Once it gets decent support in their government I'm sure it will go through.

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#13  Edited By EuanDewar

Oh no what will Australians do without being able to play Crimecraft or BMX XXX?

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#14  Edited By MariachiMacabre
@cyraxible said:
" There are a few people at the top that would like to keep it the way it is, the rest of the country understands that adults should be able to make these decisions for themselves. 


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Yeah. I'm an American who has been to Australia and personally love the place. I just take issue with a government that apparently believes it's citizens aren't mature enough to handle violent video games.
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#15  Edited By mnzy
@MariachiMacabre: I can only talk about Germany, but it's actually not that bad from the governments side.
Games with a rating beyond 18+ get "indexed". That means you can still buy them if you are over 18, but they can't get advertised or displayed in stores. And since most stores that sell games don't have a porn-like section for games, that only 18+ people can enter, stores usually don't have those games at all and they sell really really badly.
So publishers get scared of that "index"-rating and either make big changes to the games to get the 18-rating or they don't release them at all.
Only very few games actually get banned, games like Manhunt and stuff like that.
Also, that rating process is not done by the government, but by the industry.
I'm in favour of a Europe-wide rating, though.
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#16  Edited By Yanngc33

They spawned the beautiful lunatic that is Mel Gibson

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#17  Edited By MariachiMacabre
@mnzy said:
" @MariachiMacabre: I can only talk about Germany, but it's actually not that bad from the governments side.Games get a rating beyond 18+ get "indexed". That means you can still buy them if you are over 18, but they can't get advertised or displayed in stores. And since most stores that sell games don't have a porn-like section for games, that only 18+ people can enter, stores usually don't have those games at all and they sell really really badly. So publishers get scared of that "index"-rating and either make big changes to the games to get the 18-rating or they don't release them at all.Only very few games actually get banned, games like Manhunt and stuff like that. "
See that I can kind of understand. It still seems odd to me but not as odd as flat out refusing to allow it to be sold.
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#18  Edited By owl_of_minerva

99% of Australians have demonstrated support for R18 when public opinion has been solicited. Idiotic Christian groups (as usual) and politicians that can't be bothered supporting it one way or another so they look like they're on the side of family values stand in the way of progress. It will happen, but it might take a few years to get it past the conservative elements in Australian society.

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#19  Edited By 80GSM

They import said games from New Zealand anyway.

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#20  Edited By lazyturtle

 @MariachiMacabre: Maybe its not a maturity issue, but rather one of taste or morality.


Americans (and I'm one) are fucking sick in the head. We're all about violence, EVERYWHERE, ALL THE TIME. Want a gun? Sure..take two. Cop killer bullets to go into your extended clip for "home defense" or "hunting"? It's what the founding fathers intended. Violence in cartoons, violence in games, violence at schools..etc. Look at our rate of violent crime..through the roof. My kids have never lived in a nation at peace. Hell, I've barely lived in a nation at peace (I mean except all those years I lived outside the USA).  We have a war every 10 years or less (sometimes we call it something else, but we send troops and kill people). 

So maybe..just maybe..people in Australia don't want that. Maybe they think to themselves "I'll bet kids can have a good time without witnessing someone disembowel
 someone else." Maybe they have cultural values that respect life. I've met  lot of people from Australia..most of them weren't the holy-roller types we have in the US..so I don't think it is for a religious reasoning that they would ban such things (and frankly, none of the major religions can say anything credible on the topic of violence). 

I play violent video games..but the ones I play now are MUCH more violent than when I was a kid. For example, I played Doom when it was shareware. I played Wolfenstien. I played Dungeons and Dragons games. Sure you killed people and monsters..but it wasn't quite as psychotic as MK. It wasn't: Here is someone in front of you. Murder them and then rip out their spine before wearing it as a necktie. 
A few years back, I played a game called Manhunt where you were asked to murder people in cold blood..not only that, but you got a better score for doing it in a more violent and gruesome manner. Whose mind is that good for? I don't think the world or free speech are diminished in anyway by keeping that one back. 

Lastly, we engage in plenty of censorship in the USA..but our censorship is geared towards sex. See a boob in a movie? Rated R. Two girls kissing? NC-17. Shoot someone in a movie? Rated PG.
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#21  Edited By ryanwho

Australia's got a lot of attractive people and they're mostly racist but you take the good with the bad.

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#22  Edited By StrikeALight

Australia is pretty fantastic - loved my short stint there.

You can enjoy Christmas dinner outside in the glorious sunshine, for christssake!

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#23  Edited By imsh_pl
@MysteriousBob said:
" Oh hey look, its the most original discussion on the internet!

Maybe you should look this up instead of calling an entire nation pussies.
"
What's it with you, you always try to get the first comment on a thread in which you usually bitch about a thing that the OP didn't even say and you just misread it.
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#24  Edited By Slaker117

I've heard Australia also has really strict pornography laws. Anyone know if that's true?

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#25  Edited By Video_Game_King

Given that Australia is home to some of the scariest creatures on Earth, I'm guessing that people just haven't realized that Australia is no place for sane men to live.

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#26  Edited By Aronman789

You'd think that they would be less scared of violence, considering they live with demons.

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TRAVELING IN A FRIEND OUT COMBI
ON A HIPPY TRAIL HEAD FULL OF ZOMMMMMMMBAYYYYY
I MET A STRANGE LADY
SHE MADE ME NERVOUS
SHE TOOK ME IN AND GAVE ME BREAKFAST!
AND SHE SAID...

DO YOU COME FROM A LAND DOWN UNDER?
WHERE WOMEN GLOW AND MEN PLUNDER?
CAN'T YOU HEAR, CAN'T YOU HEAR THAT THUNDER!?
YOU BETTER RUN, YOU BETTER TAKE COVER!!

[AWESOME FLUTE SOLO]

BUYING BREAD FROM A MAN IN BRUSSELS!
HE WAS, SIX FOOT FOUR, AND FULL-A-MUSCLE!
I SAID DO YOU SPEAK-A-MY LANGUAGE!?
HE JUST SMILED AND GAVE ME
A VEGEMITE SANDWICH!
AND HE SAID!

DO YOU COME FROM A LAND DOWN UNDER?
WHERE BEER DOES FLOW, AND MEN CHUNDER?
CAN'T YOU HEAR CAN'T YOU HEAR THAT THUNDER?
YOU BETTER RUN, BETTER TAKE COVER

[ANOTHER AWESOME FLUTE SOLO]

DINING IN A TENT IN BOMBAY
WITH A SLACK JAW, AND NOT MUCH TO SAY
I SAID TO THE MAN ARE YOU TRYING TO TEMPT ME?
BECAUSE I COME FROM THE LAND OF PLENTY!
AND HE SAID!!!!

DO YOU COME FROM A LAND DOWN UNDER?
WOMEN GLOW AND MEN PLUNDER
CAN'T YOU HEAR CAN'T YOU HEAR THAT THUNDER?
YOU BETTER RUN, BETTER TAKE COVER

'Cause we are...

LIVIN' IN A LAND DOWN UNDER!
WOMEN GLOW AND MEN PLUNDER!
CAN'T YOU HEAR CAN'T HEAR THAT THUNDER? (Thunder!)
BETTER RUN, BETTER TAKE COVER.

Any nation that can come up with a song like that does not suck, I assure you. And yes, I did write that all from memory. I have a deep level of respect for the ones they call Men at Work.

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#28  Edited By WoodenPlatypus
@Everyones_A_Critic said:
"TRAVELING IN A FRIEND OUT COMBION A HIPPY TRAIL HEAD FULL OF ZOMMMMMMMBAYYYYYI MET A STRANGE LADYSHE MADE ME NERVOUSSHE TOOK ME IN AND GAVE ME BREAKFAST!AND SHE SAID...DO YOU COME FROM A LAND DOWN UNDER?WHERE WOMEN GLOW AND MEN PLUNDER?CAN'T YOU HEAR, CAN'T YOU HEAR THAT THUNDER!?YOU BETTER RUN, YOU BETTER TAKE COVER!![AWESOME FLUTE SOLO]BUYING BREAD FROM A MAN IN BRUSSELS!HE WAS, SIX FOOT FOUR, AND FULL-A-MUSCLE!I SAID DO YOU SPEAK-A-MY LANGUAGE!?HE JUST SMILED AND GAVE MEA VEGEMITE SANDWICH!AND HE SAID!DO YOU COME FROM A LAND DOWN UNDER?WHERE BEER DOES FLOW, AND MEN CHUNDER?CAN'T YOU HEAR CAN'T YOU HEAR THAT THUNDER?YOU BETTER RUN, BETTER TAKE COVER[ANOTHER AWESOME FLUTE SOLO]DINING IN A TENT IN BOMBAYWITH A SLACK JAW, AND NOT MUCH TO SAYI SAID TO THE MAN ARE YOU TRYING TO TEMPT ME?BECAUSE I COME FROM THE LAND OF PLENTY!AND HE SAID!!!!DO YOU COME FROM A LAND DOWN UNDER?WOMEN GLOW AND MEN PLUNDERCAN'T YOU HEAR CAN'T YOU HEAR THAT THUNDER?YOU BETTER RUN, BETTER TAKE COVER'Cause we are...LIVIN' IN A LAND DOWN UNDER!WOMEN GLOW AND MEN PLUNDER!CAN'T YOU HEAR CAN'T HEAR THAT THUNDER? (Thunder!)BETTER RUN, BETTER TAKE COVER.Any nation that can come up with a song like that does not suck, I assure you. And yes, I did write that all from memory. I have a deep level of respect for the ones they call Men at Work. "


I love you right now.

Like seriously would marry you.

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#29  Edited By lazyturtle
@Slaker117: I can tell you that the Turk & Caicos Islands do. They confiscated my playboy in the airport. The joke was on them...they weren't wearing gloves.
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#30  Edited By big_jon

Also it has the highest obesity rates in the world, I was suprized too.

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#31  Edited By Meowshi
@EVO said:
" Yes, Australia sucks because a dozen or so games have been banned over the years. Most of which are shit anyway.On the other hand we get better box art, beautiful women and the best sport on earth. "
I love this guy trying to pretend like "better box art" makes us for you not being able to play certain games.  But of course, all the ones you can't play, "are shit anyway".  

What a laugh.
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#32  Edited By buzz_clik
@EVO said:
" On the other hand we get better box art, beautiful women and the best sport on earth. "
GO DEES.
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#33  Edited By Daveyo520
@mnzy: What about old people? Can't they play it?

@lazyturtle: You do know the difference between media and real life right?
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#34  Edited By norton123

Their games' situation certainly sucks. 

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#35  Edited By PeasantAbuse


Australia has some absolutely horrifying spiders.  So fuck you Australians, i hope all your games get banned.  You are the reason I can't watch Animal Planet anymore.

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#36  Edited By Daveyo520
@buzz_clik: Are you beautiful Buzz?
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#37  Edited By buzz_clik
@Daveyo520: No, but I am a woman.
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#38  Edited By sameeeeam

I've only been to Australia a couple of times but it's a pretty rad place. It has enough going for it to make up for all the censorship. In fact, the entire claim that Australia "sucks" just because it does not have a couple of games is a little silly.

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#39  Edited By Daveyo520
@buzz_clik: Well duh or all those things I've done thinking about you would be really weird. 
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#40  Edited By Animasta

yes because video games are all that matters

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#41  Edited By Synthballs
@Meowshi said:
" @EVO said:
" Yes, Australia sucks because a dozen or so games have been banned over the years. Most of which are shit anyway.On the other hand we get better box art, beautiful women and the best sport on earth. "
I love this guy trying to pretend like "better box art" makes us for you not being able to play certain games.  But of course, all the ones you can't play, "are shit anyway".  

What a laugh.
"



List Of Games Banned in Australia

7 Sins Banned because of high impact of sexual references.
50 Cent: Bulletproof Banned because of high impact violence and cruelty.[5] A censored version was later released.[6]
Blitz: The League Banned because of drug use related to awards.
BMX XXX Banned because of high impact sexual references. Censored version later released
CrimeCraft Banned due to the use of drugs as incentives or rewards.
Dark Sector Banned because of high impact violence. A censored version was later released.
Dreamweb Banned because of a scene of violence. However, the game was censored, and re-released with a more lucrative M rating in 1996[7]
The Getaway Originally released uncut with a MA15+, it was later resubmitted and banned due to a scene of detailed torture. A censored version omitting this scene was later released with a MA15+. The sequel was released uncut.
Left 4 Dead 2 Refused classification due to relentless gory violence. An edited version has been released using the German cut.[8] This version of game is now less violent than its predecessor which was released with a MA15+.
Leisure Suit Larry: Magna Cum Laude Banned because of sexuality and nudity in relation to incentives and rewards.
Marc Ecko's Getting Up: Contents Under Pressure Originally released with a MA15+, Federal Attorney-General Philip Ruddock used his power to later appeal the decision to get it banned for glorification of graffiti.
Manhunt Originally rated MA15+ but Federal Attorney-General Philip Ruddock later appealed the rating thus being banned afterwards because of high-impact violence and cruelty.
Mortal Kombat Banned due to the graphic realistic depictions of mutilations and gore performed by the fatalities. Ban upheld by Australian Classification Review Board on Monday, March 14, 2011.[4]
NARC (2005 game) Banned because of drug use related to incentives.
NecroVisioN Banned because of relentless gory violence. A censored version was later released with a lucrative M rating.
Postal 2 Banned because of gross, abhorrent content (urination, high impact violence, animal cruelty, homophobia, etc.)
Phantasmagoria Banned because of high impact violence, cruelty, and a scene of sexual violence involving rape. A censored version was later released.
Reservoir Dogs Banned because of high impact violence and cruelty.
Risen Banned because of sexual activity and drug use related to incentives.
Shellshock 2: Blood Trails Banned because of high impact violence.
Silent Hill: Homecoming Banned because of very disturbing content specifically the scene involving drilling into body parts. Konami has since modified this part of the game to meet MA15+ guidelines.
Singles: Flirt Up Your Life Banned because of sexuality and nudity in relation to incentives and rewards.
Soldier of Fortune: Payback Banned because of high impact violence involving dismemberment. Activision has since modified the game to meet MA15+ guidelines.
Voyeur Originally rated MA15+ but later appealed and banned because of a scene of explicit sexual dialogue involving incest.



No, no, you're right. all of these games are brilliant.

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#42  Edited By korolev

Our censorship laws are a by-product of our connection to England - since they had a censorship board, our government created a censorship board. And even though we are, in all but name, independent from the UK, we still retain some of their old ways of doing things out of sheer bloodymindedness.


Unlike the US, our board is run by the government and its decisions have legal weight. In the US, your ratings board are run by volunteers and the ratings are only recommendations (which are enforced by the cinemas, not the government). 

The Australian ratings board is filled with old people who despise the new, modern forms of media. In their minds, video-games are squarely aimed at kids, and only kids. They simply do not, and cannot, believe that serious adults would derive any pleasure from playing video games. As a result, they do not want to allow very violent video-games in Australia, because they are certain that it will be obtained by kids and it will warp their minds.

Here's a fun fact: Our Ratings board is schizophrenic in nature. We almost banned Fallout 3 because it had the world "Morphine" in it, but our board had no problems with Prototype - a game in which you eat civilians and US soldiers for fun and profit. Our board banned Mortal Kombat (2011), yet had no problem with Condemned 2, which is, in my opinion, just as violent, if not as graphic in its violence. Our board let's in GTAIV and MW2 which contains the airport massacre scene, yet throws a fuss over a game like L4D2 in which you kill zombies. ZOMBIES!

In all honesty, most games are not banned. I'm convinced that the ratings board doesn't even PLAY most of the games that it judges - it only plays a few, and just lets the rest get by. We don't get much banned in Australia. Call of Duty World at War and Black Ops weren't banned, despite limbs being blown off enemies and set on fire with flamethrowers. So yes, our ratings board is an annoyance, and I wish they were gone, but on the plus side, they're lazy and they don't actually check most of the games that come to Australia.
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#43  Edited By Vinny_Says
@Korolev: bet you still have their stupid queen on your money....
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#44  Edited By MEATBALL

When ratings/classification guidelines/laws were drawn up in regards to videogames it basically wasn't imagined that they would need an R18+ rating. Here we are 20 years later and that shortsighted decision is keeping games like Mortal Kombat and the unedited Left 4 Dead 2 out. The problem is, the highest rating that can be assigned to videogames in Australia is MA15+; a rating that allows for minors to play. So when a game like L4D2 or Mortal Kombat is submitted and the Classification Board decides that the content is unsuitable for an MA15+ rating (and minors in turn) it's refused classification. Refused Classification content cannot legally be sold within Australia or imported, but I've yet to hear anything about an RCed game being seized or any sort of action taken against an importer. (Possession of RCed content is not illegal in any state other than Western Australia, by the way) On another level the rule is also stupid because many games that are rated 18+ overseas wind up with an MA rating locally, so outside of the couple of high profile titles that get banned every year games are arguably also being rated inappropriately

So it's not so much about being ultra conservative as it is the fact that Australia just doesn't have the rules in place to allow for stronger videogame content. Add to this the fact that these rules could not be changed until a unanimous decision was made by each state Attorney General and Australia has been stuck without a rating for adults for a long time now. For a long while (now former) South Australian Attorney General Michael Atkinson was the villain, with reports that he was the only hold out. Last year he stepped down and it looks like his replacement is much more open to having an R18+ rating for games. Now it seems that Victoria's new Attorney General is something of a hold-out.

That aside, though, gamers have been making a fairly strong push on the issue over the last few years and the federal government has been listening. The issue was handed over to the Minister of Home Affairs' department and when Brendan O'Connor recieved the mantle it didn't take long for him to take at least some action on the issue, releasing a public discussion paper. The response was overwhelmingly positive (as public response generally had been to surveys/petitions) and late last year the Federal Government announced its support of an R18+ rating. Brendan O'Connor is still working with SCAG to bring in the rating but has mentioned that should they fail to come to a unanimous decision on the issue other options will be explored. Recently there have been rumblings that Australian states ACT and South Australia may introduce an R18+ rating of their own.

It's a pain, the fact that State Governments have a say in the rating system means that a unanimous decision is something of a requirement because having different classification rules between different states is largely impractical. It also means that the system has been far too open to the influence of more conservative elements like the Australian Christian Lobby and those with more ignorant beliefs on the issue. Progress is being made, slowly but surely, but conservative elements still hamper the process, to the point that the government is afraid to out-and-out suggest that an R18+ rating would result in the availability of stronger content (although it has been regularly implied). Brendan O'Connor has repeatedly mentioned that games that have been banned previously would likely continue to be banned should an R18 rating be introduced - a decision made in fear of conservative christian groups/baby boomers and sensationalist media programs, I'd wager.

Some are sick of the issue, and it's definitely tiring, but it's for the best that it doesn't disappear if Australian gaming adults are ever to gain at least some freedom to decide what content is appropriate for themselves.

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#45  Edited By DAFTPUNK
@mnzy: it's fun as hell, and hey dudes heads get ripped apart isn't that fucking awesome!
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#46  Edited By eskimo

So not many people take the time to understand this issue properly. 


The ratings system we have here for games was made in the early 90's when most games were made for teens and kids. The games industry wasn't taken very seriously by adults at that point so the ratings system they created topped out at MA15+, which worked perfectly well for many years. 

As the kids who played games grew up, more and more games with adult content started appearing to account for the maturing tastes of gamers. And for a while it was OK to shoehorn these games into our ratings system. Sure some of the games probably shouldn't have been classified at that level, but gaming was still such a small industry that no-one really noticed.

Nowadays there is a massive audience of adult gamers hungry for complex themes and mature content. It's great! We're seeing interesting games like Heavy Rain and hilarious gorefests like MK. In my mind playing MK is no different from enjoying some of the over the top horror movies of the 80's. It just so happens that it's a great game as well, so lots of people here want to buy it and they make a lot of noise.

Now I can't speak for any other countries, but changing the legal system here can be quite a lengthy process. Big changes like this don't happen unless there is either a serious and urgent reason to do so, or massive public support. Contrary to what people on the net might say, gaming isn't exactly high up in a governments list of priorities, so it's taken a while for this issue to get resolved. It also didn't help that in the past most of the violent games that were getting banned here were generally pretty tasteless so no-one really cared. Then there was the whole GTA4 issue and people started to wake up to the fact that we might be missing out on quality experiences. So it wasn't until recently there was a decent amount of public sentiment behind this issue.

So in Australia, as stated by an earlier poster, religion isn't really a big deal. However the religious lobby groups here still hold onto a disproportionate amount of power. When they sensed that change was in the air they started making noise and for better or worse the media picked up on it and ran with it. Politicians became scared about what would happen to them if they supported an R18 rating, and they started getting swayed by the reasoning of  these very small groups. This gave rise to people like the former SA Attorney's General Michael Atkinson, probably the public official most responsible for opposition to the changes, taking up the cause of the anti R18 folk. He went around on behalf of the lobby groups and tried to convince other people to go the same way, with a frightening level of success. However in the process of doing so he turned it into a national debate, the results of which became very clear after the government sought public submissions on the issue. There was overwhelming support for a new  system that included an R18 rating, with something like 99% of the replies in the positive.

Yet to change the ratings system for the country required the unanimous agreement of the AG from each of our seven states and territories. They have so far had a couple of meetings where around five out of the seven gave their support for the new system, with the other two either abstaining or voting against it. Even with public support, it is proving difficult to get the AG votes required to make the changes. 

HOWEVER in the last few months our federal attorney general Brendan O'Connor has laid down the ultimatum to the States that if they don't make the changes the federal government will take issues into their own hands and override the states by creating an R18 rating. It was a massive victory for the pro R18 crowd, and a very positive (in my mind) sign of changes to come. I feel that it won't be long now before we see a new ratings system here, but for now it's still tied up in the bureaucracy of government.

Maybe that answers your question. We might not have an R18 rating yet, but that doesn't mean we're not progressive.


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#47  Edited By stackboy

I'm an Australian. Currently importing MK from the UK and waiting for the classification reform that is apparently occuring soon. Fingers crossed.

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#48  Edited By MEATBALL

To generalise I don't know that Australian politics are terribly progressive. FAIR GO AWSTRAYA. STOP THE BOATS.

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#49  Edited By rwcohn
@80GSM said: 

" They import said games from New Zealand anyway. "

No we don't, I've never met anyone that does. As well, sometimes if a game gets banned here it doesn't even make it to New Zealand for fiscal reasons.

If/when we import games we get them from from the UK, where they don't cost $109.95 AUD ($118.38 USD) for a title that costs around $60 anywhere else in the world. Australian pricing is significantly more fucked than Australian censorship.
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Cause if Australia allows violent games to be sold to minors which will then cause the youth of the nation to rise up and strike back against gov't who will then struggle with the rising forces of the young and then they will pray to the surfing gods who will grant their wish by creating a volcano for some reason which will then erupt causing a minimal amount of damage which will anger the gov't who feel they have been betrayed by fate will shake their fists angrily at the sky, the gods defect to the youth side and while the gov't officials are distracted by their fist shaking the gods will cause a tidal wave and a sting ray will sting all the officials killing them. the youth rejoice celebrate with giant depraved orgy, Australia officially renamed Bonersville. And thats the story of where Christmas came from