What if Kirby Was Thrown in a Blender With New Super Mario Bros. Wii?

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Posted by patrickklepek (5581 posts) -
The first player has to be Kirby, but everyone can pick from other known Kirbyverse characters.

With few erratic (and sometimes embarrassing, like Kirby's Air Ride) exceptions, the pink puff ball has always been largely a solo experience. That's merely an option in Kirby's Return to Dreamland, the second Kirby game being released this year, and a game that may as well be New Super Kirby Bros. Wii.

I had no idea Kirby's Return to Dreamland was even announced at E3. I'm paid to know facts like this and didn't realize Nintendo had revealed two Kirby games until catching up on RSS feeds after the show. But Nintendo showed both to me recently in San Francisco (read my impressions of Kirby Mass Attack over here), and you can imagine my surprise when another Nintendo employee picked up a controller--and a blue Kirby appeared. And then a yellow one. And another color I can't remember.

Four Kirby dudes at once! Madness. Playing as Kirby isn't your only option either, so long as you're the second, third or fourth player. Someone has to play as Kirby, but anyone who joins in the game afterwards has the option of playing as several other characters, such as Meta Knight. If you're not Kirby, however, you lose access to Kirby's unique ability to acquire powers through cannibalism. I doubt Nintendo would approve of such terminology, but you tell me what else Kirby's actually up to.

Other playable characters include King Dedede and Waddle Dee, each with their own attacks. I can't figure why you'd want to play anyone other than Kirby, though; messing with the powers has been the general appeal behind the Kirby series since forever. To be fair, this defining bit wasn't even part of the original Kirby game, Kirby's Dream Land, released on the Game Boy in 1992.

By collecting a particular power-up, Kirby's powers are exponentially increased.

The four-player mania was a love-it-or-hate-it feature from New Super Mario Bros. Wii. Three people was the sweet spot for me, preventing the chaos from spilling into the realm of frustration, but I totally understood why most people had zero interest whatsoever. Platformers are about strict timing--it's a very personal affair. Kirby is not. There is platforming involved in playing this or any other Kirby game, but it's not front and center. Again, it's more about really messing cute dudes up with powers.

And there are hella powers up in Kirby's Return to Dreamland, powers way more powerful and screen-encompassing than anything else Kirby's had access to before. They're the typical powers found in previous Kirby games--fire, swords, etc.--but with the option of accessing super powered versions. There's even one that allowed Kirby to create his own personal wave and surf across the damn screen. Surf.

All told, while I'm thankful for what appears to be two new quality Kirby games, I can't help but be a little remorseful Kirby's Epic Yarn appears to have been a one-off when it comes to Kirby's console appearances. Kirby's lacked a strong visual identity in 3D, an issue Kirby's Epic Yarn solved by running in the opposite direction and embracing something different. It's not to say Kirby's Return to Dreamland looks bad, but "well, it looks like another Kirby game" is hardly a compliment, either.

Fortunately, "it looks like another Kirby game" also means it's probably gonna be a pretty good game.

#1 Posted by patrickklepek (5581 posts) -
The first player has to be Kirby, but everyone can pick from other known Kirbyverse characters.

With few erratic (and sometimes embarrassing, like Kirby's Air Ride) exceptions, the pink puff ball has always been largely a solo experience. That's merely an option in Kirby's Return to Dreamland, the second Kirby game being released this year, and a game that may as well be New Super Kirby Bros. Wii.

I had no idea Kirby's Return to Dreamland was even announced at E3. I'm paid to know facts like this and didn't realize Nintendo had revealed two Kirby games until catching up on RSS feeds after the show. But Nintendo showed both to me recently in San Francisco (read my impressions of Kirby Mass Attack over here), and you can imagine my surprise when another Nintendo employee picked up a controller--and a blue Kirby appeared. And then a yellow one. And another color I can't remember.

Four Kirby dudes at once! Madness. Playing as Kirby isn't your only option either, so long as you're the second, third or fourth player. Someone has to play as Kirby, but anyone who joins in the game afterwards has the option of playing as several other characters, such as Meta Knight. If you're not Kirby, however, you lose access to Kirby's unique ability to acquire powers through cannibalism. I doubt Nintendo would approve of such terminology, but you tell me what else Kirby's actually up to.

Other playable characters include King Dedede and Waddle Dee, each with their own attacks. I can't figure why you'd want to play anyone other than Kirby, though; messing with the powers has been the general appeal behind the Kirby series since forever. To be fair, this defining bit wasn't even part of the original Kirby game, Kirby's Dream Land, released on the Game Boy in 1992.

By collecting a particular power-up, Kirby's powers are exponentially increased.

The four-player mania was a love-it-or-hate-it feature from New Super Mario Bros. Wii. Three people was the sweet spot for me, preventing the chaos from spilling into the realm of frustration, but I totally understood why most people had zero interest whatsoever. Platformers are about strict timing--it's a very personal affair. Kirby is not. There is platforming involved in playing this or any other Kirby game, but it's not front and center. Again, it's more about really messing cute dudes up with powers.

And there are hella powers up in Kirby's Return to Dreamland, powers way more powerful and screen-encompassing than anything else Kirby's had access to before. They're the typical powers found in previous Kirby games--fire, swords, etc.--but with the option of accessing super powered versions. There's even one that allowed Kirby to create his own personal wave and surf across the damn screen. Surf.

All told, while I'm thankful for what appears to be two new quality Kirby games, I can't help but be a little remorseful Kirby's Epic Yarn appears to have been a one-off when it comes to Kirby's console appearances. Kirby's lacked a strong visual identity in 3D, an issue Kirby's Epic Yarn solved by running in the opposite direction and embracing something different. It's not to say Kirby's Return to Dreamland looks bad, but "well, it looks like another Kirby game" is hardly a compliment, either.

Fortunately, "it looks like another Kirby game" also means it's probably gonna be a pretty good game.

#2 Edited by MikeS (17 posts) -

It's hard not to have faith that the next Kirby is going to be anything less than great with the track record that they've had thus far.

#3 Edited by TheMasterDS (2084 posts) -

Well, what about the Blue Dude in Kirby's Dreamland 3? Or the Partners in Kirby Super Star? Those were coop modes in pretty early Kirby games.

#4 Posted by TheYear20XX (426 posts) -

This game will suck.

#5 Edited by ryanwho (12082 posts) -

Mario already has more mascots than it knows what to do with, just to play homage to every mascot takes up about half of the last Galaxy game. 
I've been saying for a while, but I would love love love if "Paper" became a catchall IP. As in, Paper Mario, Paper Kirby, Paper Donky Kong, etc. I think Kirby especially could work great in the "Paper" RPG framework. Have Intelligent Systems and AlphaDream (the portable mario RPG guys, which seem kind of redundant if Paper Mario is a portable IP now) just zigzag between Paper games.

#6 Posted by ICryCauseImEmo (522 posts) -

It would be like any other Nintendo game? 

#7 Edited by Cypher (114 posts) -

"With few embarrassing exceptions like Kirby's Air Ride, the pink puff ball has always been a solo experience."

Are you implying that Kirby Super Star and Dream Land 3 were "embarassing exceptions"?

#8 Posted by Shadowx (26 posts) -

@TheMasterDS
Exactly, I wa slike wait what tehre was Kirby Super Stars that had partners.

#9 Posted by beefmotron (13 posts) -

4 player platformers with couch co-op are basically my favorite genre of games right now. Splosion Man, New Mario Bros Wii, Ms Splosion Man are some of the best fun you can have. Trine was amazing too even though it was just three players.

I'm really looking forward to this, Rayman Origins, Spelunky, and Battleblock theater.

#10 Posted by patrickklepek (5581 posts) -

Yeah, I realize there have been co-op modes, but this is something on a totally different level.

#11 Posted by RandomInternetUser (6789 posts) -

That seems cool, would get it if I had a Wii.

#12 Posted by awadnin (275 posts) -

  

#13 Posted by Grissefar (2842 posts) -

Kirby sucks.

You know, literally.

#14 Posted by MrGtD (469 posts) -

Klepek should have his Video Games license taken away for talking mess about Kirby's Air Ride. I loved that game.

#15 Posted by MacInTheB0x (1 posts) -

You have no idea just how much this news article makes my day. Kirby was one of my favorite game characters as a kid, and I'm going to be playing the shit out of this when it comes out.

#16 Posted by Doctorchimp (4078 posts) -

So this is for the wii right?

#17 Posted by RanmaRanma (69 posts) -

Epic Yarn and NSMB ran on the same engine and felt almost identical in control. I played both of the back to back with a friend and we both noticed it. I realize this is even more like NSBM but it's not a radical notion. I'm excited either way.

#18 Posted by Vexxan (4623 posts) -

It looks amazing, too bad I don't have a Wii.

#19 Posted by Mister_Snig (616 posts) -

Hey, Kirby's Air Ride wasn't bad. In my household, four players on City Trial was a favorite pastime.

#20 Posted by SpunkyHePanda (1701 posts) -

I actually don't understand how someone could not enjoy 4-player New Super Mario Bros. Wii. Maybe if they don't like their friends.

#21 Posted by Skillface (565 posts) -

Kirby's Air Ride isn't necessarily a fantastic game, but City Escape mode was fun as hell with 4 people!

#22 Posted by LordXavierBritish (6320 posts) -

FINALLY GETTING THE FUCKING 4-PLAYER CONSOLE KIRBY.
 
HOW MANY FUCKING YEARS HAVE THEY BEEN TEASING THIS SHIT NOW.

#23 Posted by BoG (5191 posts) -

Wow, this sounds like a great idea. NSMB was easy, but a lot of fun with a group of friends. I can only imagine increased amounts of madness playing Kirby with friends. I'm in! 
#24 Posted by Spikey (21 posts) -

Kirby is largely a solo experience.  Except for Kirby's Super Star.


And Kirby's Dream Land 3.


And Kirby and the Amazing Mirror.


And Kirby's Epic Yarn.


And...

#25 Posted by Claude (16254 posts) -

I have no friends to play with. It's just me and my video games.

#26 Posted by streek471 (21 posts) -

Hey, don't be dissing Kirby's Air Ride.

#27 Posted by Ulong (445 posts) -

Kirby's air ride was awesome. Sure the actual racing game sucked, but the free mode in the city, where you had a timelimit to collect parts for an upcoming challenge, that mode was awesome.

#28 Posted by Enigma777 (6078 posts) -

Too bad they ditched the Epic Yarn artstyle. This one looks super generic. Reminds me of those bible vegetable cartoons for some reason.

#29 Posted by TheGreatGuero (9130 posts) -

Wow... I totally must play this game!

#30 Posted by onan (1286 posts) -
If you're not Kirby, however, you lose access to Kirby's unique ability to acquire powers through cannibalism. I doubt Nintendo would approve of such terminology, but you tell me what else Kirby's actually up to.

Well, it's not cannibalism unless he's eating other Kirbys. Perhaps a Jigglypuff, I'm not convinced they're different species yet. He's just a carnivore. He's the opposite of that vegan guy in Scott Pilgrim. The flesh of his enemies makes him strong.

#31 Posted by nazer858 (131 posts) -

Looks great, but I kind of just want another Kirby's Super Star

#32 Posted by Video_Game_King (36272 posts) -
@ryanwho said:
Mario already has more mascots than it knows what to do with, just to play homage to every mascot takes up about half of the last Galaxy game. I've been saying for a while, but I would love love love if "Paper" became a catchall IP. As in, Paper Mario, Paper Kirby, Paper Donky Kong, etc. I think Kirby especially could work great in the "Paper" RPG framework. Have Intelligent Systems and AlphaDream (the portable mario RPG guys, which seem kind of redundant if Paper Mario is a portable IP now) just zigzag between Paper games.
Wait, does that mean Paper Fire Emblem? I'm not even sure how that would work.
#33 Posted by Rudeboy217 (1769 posts) -

This looks great. I will finally have a good excuse to get my Wii out.

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#34 Posted by twhalen (126 posts) -

This is a must buy for me. And I wouldn't say that this "looks like another Kirby game"--correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this the first full 3D platformer Kirby game since Kirby 64?

#35 Edited by MrKlorox (11209 posts) -

@Spikey said:

Kirby is largely a solo experience. Except for Kirby's Super Star.

And Kirby's Dream Land 3.

And Kirby and the Amazing Mirror.

And Kirby's Epic Yarn.

And...

And Kirby's Dream Course.

And Kirby's Avalanche.

And...

#36 Posted by MormonWarrior (2617 posts) -
@SpunkyHePanda said:

I actually don't understand how someone could not enjoy 4-player New Super Mario Bros. Wii. Maybe if they don't like their friends.

...or if the only people you have to play it with are your siblings who are awful at platformers and get mad at you for beating all the levels and leaving them in the dust. Just sayin'. I found that game horrendous single-player and multiplayer, so whatever.
#37 Posted by TehFlan (1944 posts) -

I played the hell out of Kirby's Air Ride.

#38 Posted by TehFlan (1944 posts) -
@Video_Game_King said:
@ryanwho said:
Mario already has more mascots than it knows what to do with, just to play homage to every mascot takes up about half of the last Galaxy game. I've been saying for a while, but I would love love love if "Paper" became a catchall IP. As in, Paper Mario, Paper Kirby, Paper Donky Kong, etc. I think Kirby especially could work great in the "Paper" RPG framework. Have Intelligent Systems and AlphaDream (the portable mario RPG guys, which seem kind of redundant if Paper Mario is a portable IP now) just zigzag between Paper games.
Wait, does that mean Paper Fire Emblem? I'm not even sure how that would work.
I don't know how it would work, but I want it.
#39 Posted by sionweeks (653 posts) -

When I saw the image I thought it was the reveal of the new Smash Bros.

#40 Posted by queenulhu (302 posts) -

HOLY SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HOLY SHIT HOLY SHIT!!! If it's anywhere near as good as Kirby Crystal Shards, it might be one of my favorite games ever.. sigh... time to buy a wii.  Damn you Nintendo!!!!

#41 Edited by Seroth (722 posts) -

I think it's worth noting that this looks to be a resurrection of the canceled Gamecube Kirby game that I was really looking forward to back in the day. I think even one of the newer trailers for the Wii game uses remixed music from the Gamecube trailer:

This game will probably be the first Wii game I've bought in a while. I love Kirby, but even Epic Yarn didn't really engage me outside of the visual style. This one actually looks really fun, like a 4-player Super Star. We'll see once I get in my hands, however.

#42 Posted by paulunga (2057 posts) -

Why cannibalism? I'm pretty sure Kirby is the only one of his kind. If anything, he aquires his powers through carnivorism. But I guess that doesn't sound as good in a story, now does it Klepek?

#43 Posted by JackSukeru (5922 posts) -

You can never have enough Co-op games in my opinion, and considering how much I enjoyed playing NSMBW with friends and family I am hella excited for this!

I didn't know you could all play as a Kirby, but it's definetly a good idea since all the other characters will be different.

Also, silly Patrick, it's not cannibalism unless he eats other Kirbii :P

#44 Posted by Trebz (487 posts) -
@Seroth: I'm glad I'm not the only one who remembers Kirby GC.
#45 Posted by rmanthorp (4009 posts) -

Oh man such great characters to play as, like Waddle Dee.

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#46 Posted by JackSukeru (5922 posts) -

@Rufi91: I know right? Waddle Doo is seriously the cuter and cooler one.

#47 Posted by manicraider (87 posts) -

Does it really take 4 players to beat Whispy?

#48 Posted by PatPandaHat (113 posts) -

Can I play as Gordo?

#49 Edited by Levio (1784 posts) -

I always felt like kirby games weren't hard enough to warrant all the absurd powers kirby can build up. Maybe if this one had a nightmare and hell mode...

#50 Edited by TadThuggish (908 posts) -

"With few erratic (and sometimes embarrassing, like Kirby's Air Ride) exceptions, the pink puff ball has always been largely a solo experience."

Kirby Super Star

Kirby Super Star Ultra

Kirby’s Dream Land 3

Kirby 64: The Crystal Shards

Kirby & the Amazing Mirror

Kirby: Squeak Squad

Kirby’s Epic Yarn

Kirby Mass Attack

Kirby’s Return to Dream Land

Kirby’s Avalanche

Kirby’s Dream Course

Kirby’s Star Stacker

Kirby Air Ride

More than half of all Kiby games include multiplayer. Don't make sweeping statements without research first.

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