Quick Look: Glory of Heracles

yep, i still f*ing hate RPGs.

Yay! 
P.S. Congratulations. You're first. ...

Cool that they had to patience to do this game. Maybe some Sands of Destruction up next? That's some turn based RPG action that isn't nearly as complex as this...

There's no time for this... there is only time to sit and salivate over Mass Effect 2.
 
Also, that monster Morpho (@5:00) is a fucking Caterpie, there's no way around it.

Oh man, this reminds me that my DS Lite just broke this morning.  So not cool.

random battles... blech, no thank you.  I guess i shouldn't pretend i care considering i don't care for JRPG's.

" yep, i still f*ing hate RPGs. "

'J-RPGs'

You hate JRPGs - so do I apparently these days. Used to love the old FFs but the lack of any real innovation in the genre has killed it for me - Bioware and Western RPG developers are more to my taste these days

Glad they did a QL of this, I was thinking about picking it up. Looks like my sort of thing, but battles seem like they may be a little too slow.

" @DiGiTaL_SiN said:

" yep, i still f*ing hate RPGs. "

'J-RPGs'

You hate JRPGs - so do I apparently these days. Used to love the old FFs but the lack of any real innovation in the genre has killed it for me - Bioware and Western RPG developers are more to my taste these days

"

" @Vitor: The weird thing is I LOVED the Persona 4 endurance run, I think Persona 4 is one of the best games ever. But I just can't bring myself to play any MMORPG, RPG or JRPG. Too much commitment and time investment and too many god damn choices!  I also like my games as linear as possible because I'm kind of a completionist. Maybe that's also why I loved Persona 4, because even though it's a JRPG, in the end no matter what choices you made you'll probably end up having the same experience I did when I played it for example.  Basically, I want linear RPGs with minimal character customization, auto leveling up, no random battle encounters and minimal replayability. For some reason most RPGs nowadays are heading in the exact opposite direction. "

Golden Sun was badass, as was its sequel. I hope Golden Sun DS turns out to be good; it would be a shame if it wasn't.
 
As for this game, I'm not really feeling it. I'm pretty much over random encounters, now. I think FF9, and Sands of Destruction may be the lone exceptions (although, Sands of Destruction's encounter rate will soon drive me insane and force me to use a cheat to turn off random encounters from time to time). I like when JRPG's have symbols that represent battles, that I can avoid if I want.

the only random battles i will enjoy are in pokemon.   but even that gets a little annoying. im finding that recently i have been spending more and more money on max repels than ever before. haha

" @Vitor said:

RE your Divinity comment, that's very true. 

And one of my favourite games of this gen was Demon's Souls (not technically a JRPG but definitely a Japanese RPG if you get the difference) but generally speaking, I meant games that rip on the old FF formula with little to no variation. And you can't really argue against the fact that as a whole, Japanese devs tend to play it really safe with the JRPG genre.

Haven't seen the Endurance run - funnily enough, I haven't played Persona 4 due to the time commitment it would inevitably bring and haven't watch that video series for the same reason. I'm sure there are exceptions to the rule but on the whole, WRPGs just do more for me these days - as I said, they appeal more to my tastes at the moment.

Dude, I agree with Ryan. I loved Golden Sun.

Hercules! Hercules! I got it brad :D Nutty Professor.

The Golden Sun games were made by Camelot, not Intelligent Systems. But they are making a Golden Sun DS game, which is supposed to come out sometime this year.

The gameplay of Golden Sun was fantastic. The dialogue was fucking horrible and the was a shiton of it.

Nice to see you guys expanded the screen size on DS videos. I understand why you didn't before; it looks a little odd with the DS shell cut-off, but the importance of being able to read the text and understand the game better outweighs the aesthetics of the video accoutrements.

I hate random battles

I keep thinking of Homercles Simpson.

Man I am sick of Random encounters. This game mechanic needs to disappear.

Maybe the volume is just too low, but to me that woods overworld music sounds a little bit too much like the "Dear to the Heart" music from FF7. I'm pretty sure the harp is playing the exact same scale before it goes into the higher key.

Gah, I want that new golden sun on the DS, but they have to get rid of random encounters. The spell and special  attack animations were great on the GBA.

"@DiGiTaL_SiN said:

" yep, i still f*ing hate RPGs. "

'J-RPGs'

You hate JRPGs - so do I apparently these days. Used to love the old FFs but the lack of any real innovation in the genre has killed it for me - Bioware and Western RPG developers are more to my taste these days

"

I don't think there are any Glory of Heracles games on the Game Boy, Brad. But I'm no Japanese man so I could be wrong. Also, technically, Glory of Heracles 3 was released on the Virtual Console so it's not actually the first western audiences have seen of this. 
 
Not that any of this matters anyway because this is just another generic DS JRPG.

The DS and its games may be selling like crazy, but in the end I'm pretty sure that these kind of games, i.e. with random battles, are getting more and more anachronistic.
 
Good games are supposed to empower the player, not remove control from what he's doing, which is what happens with a random encounter mechanic.
 
I think JRPGs, at least in their current form, is a dying genre, but in its sunset it still casts glowing lights before vanishing.
 
Hail to Mass Effetc 2 !!!

This might be vaguely appealing, except for the combat "minigame" thing. That really puts me off.

Heh, I can only imagine Jeff yelling across the room that Ryan should totally join Brad in looking at an DS anime game. Then Ryan flashes the middle finger and comes over anyway.

The sprites on the top screen don't look that great. They're a little smeary. It's a shame we didn't get to see any story.

"@Vitor said:

"@DiGiTaL_SiN said:

" yep, i still f*ing hate RPGs. "

'J-RPGs'

You hate JRPGs - so do I apparently these days. Used to love the old FFs but the lack of any real innovation in the genre has killed it for me - Bioware and Western RPG developers are more to my taste these days

"

Final Fantasy 12 innovated quite a bit, but appearently people hate innovation.  I loved it and couldn't care less about standard JRPGs.  To be fair, I loved the Endurance Run, but I thought it was clear that the JRPG gameplay parts were far and away the worst parts of P4. "

Not a lot of time to explore nothing before random battles begin? I'll pass.

This looks alright, I like my old school RPGs so I might give it a shot. They're obviously still getting tutorialized left and right here but the combat looks like it could get pretty deep. Combat log is a nice touch.
I'm also sorta surprised I've never heard of this series at all, given it's been around since the 80s... They must be doing something right, right?
 
@usedtype said:

Final Fantasy 12 innovated quite a bit, but appearently people hate innovation.  I loved it and couldn't care less about standard JRPGs.

THAC0 was the way to go

That's some sweet animations, but this game looks way to dense for me. Also I think the "D" is Denar (dinar?) at least that's what the money was called in Hercules: The Legendary Journies. I can only imagine that was the influence to this game. >.>

This game looks rad, F anyone else that hates traditional RPGS.

be fair, I loved the Endurance Run, but I thought it was clear that the JRPG gameplay parts were far and away the worst parts of P4. "

I hate greek anime. And normal anime

" yep, i still f*ing hate RPGs. "

" @DiGiTaL_SiN said:

" yep, i still f*ing hate RPGs. "

Thank you for that insight.  Why did you post this? "

I actually picked this up, and I'm looking to dig into it once I'm done with Sands of Destruction, the other big DS RPG to hit this month.  I'm not sure how the plot in Glory of Heracles will pan out, but damn, that's some fun-looking combat.

They totally just fought a giant Caterpie.

fighting caterpies?

OMG THAC0 jokes, never get sick of that shit. What a terrible overcomplicated system!

 
Wow, party like it's 1988.  I'd rather have a Bad Dudes RPG.