" @trophyhunter said:

" @AniMoney said:

" @trophyhunter said:

" what does the E stand for in E Honda? "

Edmond "

really that sound strange how about  the M in M bison? "

Well M.Bison in Japan is actually the boxer, who is a parody of Mike Tyson, and the name is obviously a parody of that too. But in American they had to switch the names around to avoid a suit from Tyson or something.  So the Boxer in America is Balrog, but in Japan he's M.Bison. The dictator in America is M.Bison, and in Japan he's Vega. The claw character in America is Vega, and in Japan he's Balrog. "

" @Plasma said:

" @DirrtyNinja said:

So, why did capcom think having one frame links in this game would be a good idea. Would love to main Fei but damn its so frustrating.  

 Yeah, that's exactly what this game needs, more compromises for new players! /Sarcasm "

You're kidding right? One frame links are stupid, it's just an execution barrier preventing people from playing the actual game. Combos are strictly a single-player experience, it's getting in a position to land them that's the multiplayer part, and that's what most people play street fighter for. If I wanted to test my mad execution or something I'd play guitar hero. "

" @Plasma said:

" @DirrtyNinja said:

So, why did capcom think having one frame links in this game would be a good idea. Would love to main Fei but damn its so frustrating.  

 Yeah, that's exactly what this game needs, more compromises for new players! /Sarcasm "

You're kidding right? One frame links are stupid, it's just an execution barrier preventing people from playing the actual game. Combos are strictly a single-player experience, it's getting in a position to land them that's the multiplayer part, and that's what most people play street fighter for. If I wanted to test my mad execution or something I'd play guitar hero. "

" @AniMoney said:

" @trophyhunter said:

" @AniMoney said:

" @trophyhunter said:

" what does the E stand for in E Honda? "

Edmond "

really that sound strange how about  the M in M bison? "

Well M.Bison in Japan is actually the boxer, who is a parody of Mike Tyson, and the name is obviously a parody of that too. But in American they had to switch the names around to avoid a suit from Tyson or something.  So the Boxer in America is Balrog, but in Japan he's M.Bison. The dictator in America is M.Bison, and in Japan he's Vega. The claw character in America is Vega, and in Japan he's Balrog. "

so it's mike then "

  This issue of rapid fire moves using a bug to cancel into specials is actually minor compared to the next topic though, a topic that will dominate much of the game: link combos in general. The game is filled with difficult 1-frame links. These are moves that just barely combo into each other with 1/60th of a second timing. In high level play, players will master these and they become common. So Sakura doing low jab, (link), low fierce, short helicopter kick, (link) low short, ex shoryuken, ultra for 50% will be common. One friend of mine already does this combo in real matches after only 2 days of playing, as well as other scarily damaging combos off low short that involve hard links.

Other examples, Ryu can now link low short, low jab, low forward. He can also link low strong, low strong, low roundhouse. Linking is the name of the game, which actually makes the game closer to CvS2 than to 3s or ST. The effect of all these links is to hide the actual game behind an impenetrable wall of execution. If you practice (ie, develop 1p skills unrelated to strategy and unrelated to interaction with the opponent) then you gain access to the real game, a game of high damage off small hits, but only for the dexterous.

Of course some level of this is inherent in just about every fighting game. It's a question of how far to turn the knob towards 1p activities and away from strategy. Super Street Fighter 2 Turbo has dexterity requirements of course, but winning tournaments while using zero or very few link combos is entirely possible. That simply isn't the main focus of the game. The existence of many, many new links in SF4 shifts the focus toward that though. 

" @Plasma: @lordofultima: I tend to echo David Sirlin's thoughts on the matter. I don't agree with everything he said in that article, but I do agree with a lot of it, like this snippet. 
  

  This issue of rapid fire moves using a bug to cancel into specials is actually minor compared to the next topic though, a topic that will dominate much of the game: link combos in general. The game is filled with difficult 1-frame links. These are moves that just barely combo into each other with 1/60th of a second timing. In high level play, players will master these and they become common. So Sakura doing low jab, (link), low fierce, short helicopter kick, (link) low short, ex shoryuken, ultra for 50% will be common. One friend of mine already does this combo in real matches after only 2 days of playing, as well as other scarily damaging combos off low short that involve hard links.

Other examples, Ryu can now link low short, low jab, low forward. He can also link low strong, low strong, low roundhouse. Linking is the name of the game, which actually makes the game closer to CvS2 than to 3s or ST. The effect of all these links is to hide the actual game behind an impenetrable wall of execution. If you practice (ie, develop 1p skills unrelated to strategy and unrelated to interaction with the opponent) then you gain access to the real game, a game of high damage off small hits, but only for the dexterous.

Of course some level of this is inherent in just about every fighting game. It's a question of how far to turn the knob towards 1p activities and away from strategy. Super Street Fighter 2 Turbo has dexterity requirements of course, but winning tournaments while using zero or very few link combos is entirely possible. That simply isn't the main focus of the game. The existence of many, many new links in SF4 shifts the focus toward that though. 

But I don't really want to get into an argument about this here so I'll drop it.     "

" @AniMoney said:

" @Plasma: @lordofultima: I tend to echo David Sirlin's thoughts on the matter. I don't agree with everything he said in that article, but I do agree with a lot of it, like this snippet. 
  

  This issue of rapid fire moves using a bug to cancel into specials is actually minor compared to the next topic though, a topic that will dominate much of the game: link combos in general. The game is filled with difficult 1-frame links. These are moves that just barely combo into each other with 1/60th of a second timing. In high level play, players will master these and they become common. So Sakura doing low jab, (link), low fierce, short helicopter kick, (link) low short, ex shoryuken, ultra for 50% will be common. One friend of mine already does this combo in real matches after only 2 days of playing, as well as other scarily damaging combos off low short that involve hard links.

Other examples, Ryu can now link low short, low jab, low forward. He can also link low strong, low strong, low roundhouse. Linking is the name of the game, which actually makes the game closer to CvS2 than to 3s or ST. The effect of all these links is to hide the actual game behind an impenetrable wall of execution. If you practice (ie, develop 1p skills unrelated to strategy and unrelated to interaction with the opponent) then you gain access to the real game, a game of high damage off small hits, but only for the dexterous.

Of course some level of this is inherent in just about every fighting game. It's a question of how far to turn the knob towards 1p activities and away from strategy. Super Street Fighter 2 Turbo has dexterity requirements of course, but winning tournaments while using zero or very few link combos is entirely possible. That simply isn't the main focus of the game. The existence of many, many new links in SF4 shifts the focus toward that though. 

But I don't really want to get into an argument about this here so I'll drop it.     "

With combo scaling, it becomes pretty apparent that you don't want your combo to go on for too long hence resets at high level play.  "

" Question, do you have any advice for using el fuerte?  I find that my mix ups work relatively well, except when my opponents start randomly jumping and throwing their best air normal.  Either that or they throw shoryu's whenever i get close and i have a hard time punishing. "

@baelrrogg

"  @haunts:  I have a question as well... In an earlier post you mentioned that a Honda spamming random headbutts was disrespectful play. Can you elaborate and define  "disrespectful" play. I am fairly new to the SF scene and as it stands, I do whatever is necessary to win even if my play style will piss ppl off. (spamming TS seems to piss ppl off when they have trouble dealing with it).   Thanks "

hello Haunts, tis quite nice to meet you! 
 
Anyways, I have a question that is probably something that you don't get too often... So, I have a disability, and because of this, I use only my left hand when playing (i sit down and lay the controller on my right knee, then can do the controls from there). Anyways, I am not planning on going pro or learning ridiculous counters, but I was just wondering if you had some suggestions for characters that I could get good with that may not require too complex of combinations (I have all characters unlocked besides Gouken and Seth)

" hello Haunts, tis quite nice to meet you!  Anyways, I have a question that is probably something that you don't get too often... So, I have a disability, and because of this, I use only my left hand when playing (i sit down and lay the controller on my right knee, then can do the controls from there). Anyways, I am not planning on going pro or learning ridiculous counters, but I was just wondering if you had some suggestions for characters that I could get good with that may not require too complex of combinations (I have all characters unlocked besides Gouken and Seth) "

oh, not a problem... I technically have Cerebral Palsy, but it is pretty mild (and i've had surgeries on my arm and foot on my right side to correct stuff), so luckily I can still use my left hand (and walk for that matter), but I can't really control my right hands movement to the point where I could get it to go fast enough... As of right now, I am using a controller, and i'm on the PS3 

Hey Haunts, something on my mind lately 
 
I know you're philosophy is to just stick with one character and learn all that you can about them, but honestly some characters are easier to learn than others. So naturally most beginners pick Ryu or Ken when they start off. So what incentive would there be to switch characters from Ryu/Ken (or any other begginner characters) if theoretically you can just take any character and do well with them?

" Hey Haunts, something on my mind lately  I know you're philosophy is to just stick with one character and learn all that you can about them, but honestly some characters are easier to learn than others. So naturally most beginners pick Ryu or Ken when they start off. So what incentive would there be to switch characters from Ryu/Ken (or any other begginner characters) if theoretically you can just take any character and do well with them? "

" hello Haunts, tis quite nice to meet you!  Anyways, I have a question that is probably something that you don't get too often... So, I have a disability, and because of this, I use only my left hand when playing (i sit down and lay the controller on my right knee, then can do the controls from there). Anyways, I am not planning on going pro or learning ridiculous counters, but I was just wondering if you had some suggestions for characters that I could get good with that may not require too complex of combinations (I have all characters unlocked besides Gouken and Seth) "

Hey Haunts (or anyone else willing to drop some knowledge). I play Rose now and seem to get more wins with her then I used to with Guile and pretty much main Rose now but earlier today I was looking at the character screen and saw Fei Long sitting there so I spent 20 mins or so in training mode and he's really interesting. Do you have any tips as a newly started Fei player? I know Justin Wong done pretty damn good with him against Daigo once so obviously the character is no slauch, unless it was simply Daigo's unawareness of Fei that let Justin get so many wins.
 
What's Fei's strengths and weaknesses?
 
 
Edit: Never matter, I don't think I gel well with Fei. Don't worry about advice for Fei for me.

I purchased all the DLC costumes for SF4.  Do you think they will transfer to Super SF4?  The more I think about this new version comming out the more questions I have.  
Like wont this new version split the player base?

" I purchased all the DLC costumes for SF4.  Do you think they will transfer to Super SF4?  The more I think about this new version comming out the more questions I have.   Like wont this new version split the player base? "

True.  I traded mine in when I heard a new one was coming out.  Wanted to make sure I got a good value on the trade.  Now all I want to do is play SF4.  Cant wait for this new Super version to drop.

wtf everything looks all weird now...and facebook lol?

" wtf everything looks all weird now...and facebook lol? "

" @Scooper: Justin Wong gets so many wins off with Fei Because he's Justin Wong.  "

This may come off as a bit biased isnce I'm a Sagat player, but I think he would be a good choice if you are able to throw High Tiger Shots.. Between Tiger Shots and his Standing Roundhouse you can do a lot of damage.  If you can tell me to what extent you can do motions or inputs then that will help.   "

" @haunts said: 

This may come off as a bit biased isnce I'm a Sagat player, but I think he would be a good choice if you are able to throw High Tiger Shots.. Between Tiger Shots and his Standing Roundhouse you can do a lot of damage.  If you can tell me to what extent you can do motions or inputs then that will help.   "

yeah... for the most part, I use the left stick with my middle and index finger, then use my thumb to press the face buttons (then when I need to do supers and ultras, i will change the positioning of the controller).  Right now, I am using Bison, and he seems somewhat easy to get used to, because the charging seems pretty easy for me to do... "

Any advice for someone just starting to play Boxer? I'm having a lot of trouble with the Bison matchup.

do you have any advice for playing against seth, as a character without a fireball, with fei long or el fuerte he can just fireball/ stretchy arm/ teleport to keep me out all game long and then teleport in to spd at will, i eat a ton of damage getting in then he just teleports away on wake up. 

"Any advice for someone just starting to play Boxer? I'm having a lot of trouble with the Bison matchup. "

Might as well add shoryuken = srk, just in case you get curious.

" This may be the noobiest of questions, but what does DP mean?   As in, "he totally just DP/Hadoken'd me?"  Thanks. "

" @AniMoney said:

" @misterpope said:

" This may be the noobiest of questions, but what does DP mean?   As in, "he totally just DP/Hadoken'd me?"  Thanks. "

DP means double penetration  So I should hope he did not DP you...  *giggles* "

So in that example that'd just mean Jab-Jab-Hadoken?

 
Oh. It all makes sense now. And I appreciated your immature joke very much.

"

I've started a Fighting Game Glossary on iPlayWinner -- hope this helps some of you who are confused about some of the terms. It's still in it's infancy right now (needs to be alphabetized, lol) but we will be adding more soon. I also included a lot of slang terms used within the community if any of you are wondering what it means when someone is Gortons or Crunchy Golden..  :P
 
 http://iplaywinner.com/glossary/

alright, I'll give this one a shot...other than throwing, is there anything Cammy can do against turtling enemies?

" alright, I'll give this one a shot...other than throwing, is there anything Cammy can do against turtling enemies? "

" alright, I'll give this one a shot...other than throwing, is there anything Cammy can do against turtling enemies? "

" @Shadow said:

" alright, I'll give this one a shot...other than throwing, is there anything Cammy can do against turtling enemies? "

  Ex hooligan can catch people off guard sometimes but don't expect much from it. "

" @AniMoney said:

" @Shadow said:

" alright, I'll give this one a shot...other than throwing, is there anything Cammy can do against turtling enemies? "

  Ex hooligan can catch people off guard sometimes but don't expect much from it. "

Not if they are holding down back! "

" Another question here: anyway I can get better at my reaction time? I'll get hit with super-quick wake-up SRKs, or other well timed attacks, and will have nothing to defend with "

" @misterpope said:

" Another question here: anyway I can get better at my reaction time? I'll get hit with super-quick wake-up SRKs, or other well timed attacks, and will have nothing to defend with "

Yeah you do. Defend. You don't have to attack someone as they get up all the time. Sometimes block or sometimes go in for a throw. If they know you're always going to try something when they wake up they will always do a SRK. If you block and punish a few of those SRKs they start second guessing themselfs, then you can go in for the mixup. Unless they're dumb asses and continue to wake up SRK even after you've blocked it 100 times. In that case just block, punish, block, punish, block, punish, block, punish, win. Rince and repeat. "

" Another question here: anyway I can get better at my reaction time? I'll get hit with super-quick wake-up SRKs, or other well timed attacks, and will have nothing to defend with, since I'm kind of slow. Any tip I'm missing? thanks. "