Giant Bomb Holiday Nostalgiafest 2011 - Part 02

I know next year is days away....but the end made me feel really sad.

I turned a corner this year where my tastes in games have waned so much where I no longer understand why people are into the games they are into. I certainly remember how I was so it isn't really that I don't understand, but it's definitely a new world for me lately. I still enjoy watching videos related to games though, for whatever reason.

@TehBuLL said:

Ross rocked that shit.

He totally did. And Jeff Gerstmann is still the realist guy covering video games in 2011. Fuck the haters!

@vhold said:

I wonder if the Giant Bomb guys are going to take the plunge and just fully mine the depths of Mame.

They spent upwards of $1000 on a scan convertor that barely works just so they could avoid condoning emulation, so I doubt they'll ever acknowledge MAME beyond hushed whispers and a dismissive, "that guy smokes POT, and POT is WACK" throw-away line.

It's too bad.

@ArbitraryWater said:

As someone fairly ignorant of the Sega Saturn catalog in general, this stream made it look only slightly better than the Sega CD. This was obviously unintentional, and there were obviously Saturn games worth playing, but I feel like the only Saturn game they played that can be considered any kind of good is Panzer Dragoon II.

So I ask: What were the actual great Saturn games that came out in the US? I understand that the console is an importing gold mine, but I'm having trouble figuring out what the standout titles were domestically.

From what I remember Sonic R, Saturn Bomberman, The Virtua games (Cop, Fighter) And Knights into Dreams, are IMHO the notable ones.

@gladspooky said:

@vhold said:

I wonder if the Giant Bomb guys are going to take the plunge and just fully mine the depths of Mame.

They spent upwards of $1000 on a scan convertor that barely works just so they could avoid condoning emulation, so I doubt they'll ever acknowledge MAME beyond hushed whispers and a dismissive, "that guy smokes POT, and POT is WACK" throw-away line.

It's too bad.

Jeff has said several times that MAME is great.

So whatever happened to the old games marathon from last year? I can't seem to find it anywhere, not even on Justin TV or UStream.

Ending it off with Daytona USA music. This is the best.

please tell me someone else noticed that during offroad the silhouette on the right is clearly brian posehn

@SaturdayNightSpecials: it should be in the site archive.

@Marnox: It's not under Subscriber or Features as far as I can see. Unless it's under some ill-descriptive title.

I don't even remember what exactly it was called.

@SaturdayNightSpecials it is under subscriber, name is member only snes party. look for it a but before daggerfall and joust

三截棍

Also:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_section_staff

ryan: Look out for rocks!

jeff: no.

outstanding

Really wish we got a better look at all the awesome stuff Ross got you guys. Maybe next week?

@ArbitraryWater said:

As someone fairly ignorant of the Sega Saturn catalog in general, this stream made it look only slightly better than the Sega CD. This was obviously unintentional, and there were obviously Saturn games worth playing, but I feel like the only Saturn game they played that can be considered any kind of good is Panzer Dragoon II.

So I ask: What were the actual great Saturn games that came out in the US? I understand that the console is an importing gold mine, but I'm having trouble figuring out what the standout titles were domestically.

Treasure games were great. I suggest checking out Guardian Heroes (here http://www.giantbomb.com/quick-look-guardian-heroes/17-5076/) and Radiant Silvergun (although that was an import, I believe), both ported to XBLA and PSN. Also, the three Panzer Dragoon, Virtua Cop and Virtua Fighter (which, to this day I maintain is waaaaay superior to Tekken, let alone Toshinden). At the time, though, you'd play a bunch of ports as well. Tomb Raider was there. Resident Evil got a release eventually. Discworld and a bunch of other point and clicks were there.

And of course, all the good Capcom fighters were best on the Saturn's crazy 2D chipsets.

There was plenty of good stuff to play at the time. Not nearly as much as on the PSOne, for sure, but still.

Disagree about Shenme. Just saying.

Man Ross... your a baller.

That was some great fun. Really glad you guys archive the live streams.

Patrick: "Jet Set Radio Future was a disapointment"

DAMNIT PATRICK I LOVED YOU

Ryans right, JSR Future wasn't a disappointment at all.

And man, I loved Dynamite Cop on the DC, played the hell out of that co-op and collected the stupid artwork too. But even back then I knew how dumb that game was.

Love when they do this. Hope we see more retro look backs in 2012.

The Sega Saturn always felt lackluster when I was a kid playing my mates.

Man, Ross is pretty awesome!

Man, I loved Die Hard Arcade. When I was a kid I beat it at my local arcade with a dude I swear was Chris Elliot from SNL.

The best part is if you beat it 2 player, you have to fight eachother at the end. He whipped my goddamn ass.

NO MERCY FOR CHILDREN

Fantastic!

I love it when Ryan is drunk and being an asshole. They don't drink enough on GB anymore.

Ryan:

"[the Justin Bieber toothbrush] beeps every two minutes, in case you were wondering when to kill yourself."

Jeff:

"I often am."

Yeah.

If you're liking this, the 2010 Year-end nostalgia session is pretty much what sold me on this site. Give me a second and I'll go link that up for you.

Here we go, a three-parter -

http://www.justin.tv/giantbomb/b/276118469

Specifically, the sad montage scene of Jeff packing all the old consoles up is what made me realize this site was a landmark of our time, chosen only by the enlightened. One day, we'll look back on Giant Bomb with great pride for our hobby.

I love that Jeff implies in this video that the Xbox fanboy culture is the result of latent anger over the death of the Dreamcast.

Those presents from Ross were awesome.

Happy Holidays Whiskey Media.

Hey ross is pretty awsome !!!!, athough he could of brought all of us somthing :)

Thank you for the awesomeness of last year! +1 subscriber :)

F these guys.

JSRF is way better than JGR.

Shenmue was and still is awesome.

The "Russian soda" was actually Kvass.

Ross here, glad you guys liked the gifts. Had been looking for the usual pre-Christmas mailbag video and randomly came across this catching up on the site videos. Was on a plane during the live stream, otherwise would have been on chat. Thought a Tengen Tetris 2-player Vs. scrub league might be interesting during the slow game weeks to come, never know. Keep the content coming.

@TripMasterMunky said:

F these guys.

JSRF is way better than JGR.

Shenmue was and still is awesome.

2nd that.

Famousley, Patrick kept showing his age and lack o knowledge by continuing to comment on these games... ;)

And my last comment, I did not mean to second "F these guys" , perhaps just F one guy...

What.... is it only me or did the menu music for Daytona in the end of the show almost sound like music from Phoenix Wight?!

Gary Whitta could go for an HD Remix of the Panzer Dragoon games....

Me too, man....Me too.

Would've liked it if they tried out the Saturn port of Quake, I've heard it was a decent version, with a new engine specifically for the saturn (the same engine was used in Powerslave and Duke Nukem 3D as well) by the porting studio, and did some stuff the original Quake engine didn't, like colored lightning.

Ryan: "Alright, so now we're in... Thailand?"

Jeff in announcer's voice: "THAILAND"

Jeff: "Yeah."

I get the feelin Shenmue was more popular in Europe than in the US. The video game magazine I read in Sweden gave it 10/10 yet Gamespot gave it like 6.5 or something. Also they only released the DC version of Shenmue 2 in Europe, not the US. Gary is European and Patrick and Jeff are not and they don't like it. I loved Shenmue 1 and 2 on the Dreamcast. No other game made me feel like I was living in a virtual world.

these nostalgia days are some of the best videos you guys make

How drunk is Ryan in this vid?

fuck yeah die hard arcade. i played the shit out of it at the local pizza place

This Ross guy is a f'ing moron. He should have sold that rare stuff online for a mint.

Love this. But will disagree about the soundtrack not being as important to Tony Hawk PS1,2 or 3. I won't be building the HD remakes without it

@TripMasterMunky said:

F these guys.

JSRF is way better than JGR.

Shenmue was and still is awesome.

Dumbing down the graffiti system was what really spoiled an entire part of the game for me. But I disagree with Patrick about the soundtrack.

I freaking loved Clockwork Knight. I was also 4.

i wish i had more obscure consoles when i was younger :(